M45 Sport tires... should they be having cables showing at 21k?

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I can't believe it but my the inside of my left front tire is showing cables at such low mileage. Any ideas?


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cammer wrote:I can't believe it but my the inside of my left front tire is showing cables at such low mileage. Any ideas?
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1. Which model year do you have? Is it Sport Model rims or not?

2. Which tire and wheel? Tire brand and model, size, etc. Is it the OEM wheel?

3. What tire pressure do you run it at? How often do you check and adjust?

4. Have you dropped the car with lowering springs per chance?

The answer to your question is, unfortunately, "Depends". I know this is not what you want to hear, but ...

Some tires wear faster than others (you know this, of course), and it depends on your driving habits, whether the alignment is correct or not, how often you rotate and balance tires, etc., etc., etc.

Additional information would be useful, in other words.

I would start by making sure:

1. That you change the tires as soon as possible. What you have right now is an accident looking for a place to happen.

2. Check the car alignment after changing the tires and make sure that the alignments are correct.

3. Run at a pressure of about 36-37 psi (measure cold, with an accurate gauge, inside a garage, early morning, before the sun hits it, etc.)

4. Check out our sticky threads at the top of this forum - there are some tire listings that may get you pointed in the right direction for new tires. I would recommend http://www.tirerack.com as a source of lower prices.

FWIW, I go through a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 tires in about 20k to 22k miles or so on my car, but not down to the belts like you did. The last time I changed tires was at the legal limit of 2/32 - 3/32 or so - this is a bit less than I would prefer it to be (about 4/32" to be safe in wet weather) since this is a relatively dryer area of the country.

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I just replaced the tires on my 06 m35 sport at 23k

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i have 45k on m35 [2wheel drive] maybe 10k was with winter tiresand mine are less than 50 percent worn maybe i drive like an old manMazz

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mazz wrote:i have 45k on m35 [2wheel drive] maybe 10k was with winter tires and mine are less than 50 percent worn maybe i drive like an old man
Which tires (brand, model, size, etc.)?

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I dont ever remember seeing a set of original, from new, OEM tires lasting more than 25K miles. Maybe that is more common on a Camry or an Accord but not likely on a luxury performance car.

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Goodyear p245 45rOEM tires 2006 m35

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I'm about to get new tires for my '06 sport as well, right now I think its riding on Toyo. Any ideas on some good tires for 19 and 20 inch?

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mazz wrote:Goodyear p245 45rOEM tires 2006 m35
Ah, yes. This is probably Goodyear RS-A tires ... right?

Yes, these are relatively long-lasting and quiet tires, but the quality and performance is poor to mediocre and they are surprisingly expensive! If you do a search at NICO for these tires, you will see people complaining about them.

Also check out the tire comparison tests at http://www.tirerack.com - they use the Goodyear RS-A as a reference, because so many car mftrs (for some strange reason!) use this as the OEM tire. And the RS-A never seems to do as well most other performance tires. Which is what the M deserves!

I would strongly recommend getting some other tire (including some other Goodyear models, by the way) when you do switch - which should be with less than 4 years from the date of manufacture of the tire. Don't wait out the tread!

If you want to stay with relatively inexpensive tires, the Avon M500 is a good alternative. They will wear quicker than the RS-A, but may work out to give you the same "per-mile" costs since they are so much less money than the RS-A.

If you want better performance, and the price is less of an issue, then the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 or Michelin Pilot Sport or Michelin Pilot PS2 are far superior to the RS-A. Yes, they cost about the same, and wear much faster, but this is the price you end up paying for substantial quality gain.

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you guessed right on tires stylei dont expect years will be an issue at 20-25 k miles a year i bought avon on my 2002 q45 at about 60k and drove them to 90 no problelms from tire recommendationsthanks for advise

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RSA is a common name for a broad selection of very different tires in very different constructions. Even in ceratin sizes their are multiple VERSIONS of RSA.

Goodyear makes RSA police car tires which are extremely ROBUST [but hard and noisey] compared to RSA in same size for JAPAN oem.

OEM tires are different from the RSA sold at tire stores. OEM RSA in Japan are made in Japan and very differnt from USA RSA.

OEM wants fast wearing, excellant braking tires to score well in magazine tests and quickly remove them from the tire failure loop...........why they wear out at 20k. Before the stress build up causes failure.



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