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M45 lust

Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Just got back from the Infiniti dealer, to have an allignment done.

I simply love the M45. I know people have criticized it for having a hard plastic dash, and some other interior quams.. I say who cares.. The interior is very nice looking. The clock is so contemprary looking, I love it.. The in dash 6 cd changer is awesome! heated and AC seats, with perforated leather.. beautiful.. The leather had a nice smell, I really like the sojourner leather.. I like the interior. I love the nice thick leather steering wheel, perforated as well. I think the interior is great, maybe the materials arn't as nice as they should be, but it all looks super great together.

Car has everything you could ever want.. it's so loaded with features, it's ridiculous. AC seats on a 90,000 CL are a 4,000 option.. outrageous..

How can you not love the fact it has two sunvisors. One big one that covers the front window or can slide to cover the drivers side window.. this also has an extension.. finally infiniti is keeping up with gm on this one.. however if you slide the visor to cover the drivers side window, it also has another visor that can still block out sun from the front windshield.. Two visors, and an extension.. Sunglass holder..

They wanted 50,000 for this one on the showroom floor.. lol, good luck.. A good 10,000 in markup there.

I saw a first year one used. I would definetely wait for a later model. Not having the indash changer kind of sucks, even if it's in the glovebox.

2003 was the first model, right? So in 2004 they moved over to the indash changer layout.. or was it just later in the 2003 model year?

Anyway I love the M. It's depreciating fast. With the new M coming out, it's only bound to lose more and more value.

I think it's one of the last modern cars, to retain some of the 90s styling.. The new M and just about every other car have new car styling.. I really like the big bold 90s styling cues of the M.

Love the new wheel, love the interior, love the 18s.. love it all. makes me want to sell the car I haven't even got yet :)

M45, the true successor to the G50.


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Postby Rex » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

I concur :D

I can see the future, and for me it looks like this, just 2 more years :D


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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

2 years is a good number, indeed. That's what I'm thinking.. new M will be out, current loaded Ms should be in 20s.. How much are you looking to pay ?

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Postby Rex » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Hard to say, but I figure that well optioned 03's with decent miles should be had for less than $25k, still under warrantee.

I'll also entertain the idea of an 03 FX45, or a low mile 01 Q45 and then SC my current Q. Just plans, but the budget is in the works. I don't like to finance cars, save for 4 years, then buy (used) and start saving again.

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Rex,

Which BBS wheels are those? I like that color.. I can't get anything but black, but I really like that black. I was noticing the black isn't metallic, unless I didn't see it.. I didn't see any pretty metallic sparkles...

M45 has that great 90s long styling, but with newer lines.. Classic styling, and new car features.. I'm in love with the M.

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

yea, I loathe car payments.

2003 was the first model year right? I don't want one with the changer in the glovebox.. I saw a used one at the Infiniti dealer, that had this. Although I thought I've seen 2003s on ebay, with the in dash changer.. Did they change this mid model year?

Also, have they corrected the tranny shifting issues? Or is that just something to expect in this generation of M

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Postby Rex » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

03 M45 in Diamond Graphtie with 19x8.5 (21.5lbs) BBS RS-GT's in Diamond Black w/machined lip.

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Postby Rex » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

I'm pretty sure there were a couple of changes to the ECU/TCU (1 of the M guys will chime in) to help with the shifting and tip in, IIRC. Not sure on the changer, not a key factor for me. I'd kill for an In-Dash CD/MD though.

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

May as well get it if you can. It's really nice/sleek looking. I want this car to be perfect, down to every option!

Looks like the 2004s they put the Q in dash changer in. That's my only complain about the M. The sound system is kind of subpar. The Q has a real nice system... It would be almost impossible to go aftermarket with that huge screen serving as the headunit..

Depreciating fast..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=6265

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=6265

11,000 and 22,000 miles. Still a helluva car even at $35,000...

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Another thing I like about the M.. The steering wheel is all leather.. Not a huge fan of wood steering wheels.. Doesn't do much for grip.. Like the wood shifter though.

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Postby Rex » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Those are nice, but I think someone on here paid just $1,000/1,500 more than that NEW.

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

For a loaded one?

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Postby Rex » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Probably not, but I'd have to think the depreciation would be more than the $7,000 upgrade/package??

I haven't done much research on the M or FX, but the HP draws me in :D.

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Gotta get it loaded.

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Postby Falkdesigns » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

The M45 makes me like my car even more. Here's a new car which has basically the same A, B and C pillars, and very similar side profile. Sweeet!!




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Postby Rex » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Now Falk if you had the 1st one you showed, I'd have to come steal that from ya :D. But you're dead on, the only close to bad thing I can say is they made the M45 about 4 inches too narrow.

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Postby rsiwicki » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Wow!!! the similarity in lines between the two is amazing. I had no idea the two were so close until the double pics above.

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Postby PalmerWMD » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

I only see a M45 and a red X ..Fred..:(

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

The profiles are similar because the M45 isn't a new car in Japan.

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

The M45 has WAY MORE aggressive styling ques then a Y33..

the profiles are similar though.

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Postby Falkdesigns » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

I know it's not new, but they are similar. it is definitley more aggressive looking with the higher rear flanks. Looks ready to attack, I love it. The M45 is a Gloria which is a Y34 chasis (Y33 until '99).


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Postby maxnix » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

rsiwicki wrote:Wow!!! the similarity in lines between the two is amazing. I had no idea the two were so close until the double pics above.
The 1997-2001 Q45 is an FY33, the 2003-2004 M45 is a Y34. Basically the same platform with different running gear and trim.

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Postby szh » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

maxnix wrote:The 1997-2001 Q45 is an FY33, the 2003-2004 M45 is a Y34. Basically the same platform with different running gear and trim.


Different engines too, right? Unless that is what you meant by "running gear"! :)

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Postby maxnix » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Yes, running gear includes the motovational devices.

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Is the chasis any stiffer/rigid then the Y33? That would explain why people complained about the softness of the M45, just like they did about the Y33...

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Postby maxnix » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

I doubt there is any significant difference in torsional or flexible rigidity. However, if you get a chance to look under one or the other and look at the suspension under pinnings and such, I don't think either would qualify as a flexible flyer.

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

True True..

So, what about this... If the G50 is considered a better handler then the Y33, how would a G50 stack up against an M45..

I guess only fair to beef up the G50 with more rubber, tokico blues, A sway bar.. and all the handling goodies.. I guess then you could upgrade the M45 the same way.. always impossible to compare modified cars... That' being said, what do you think of the G50 vs the M45 in terms of handling?

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Postby Falkdesigns » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

it's gonna be close IMO especially with comprable suspension mods. I tell you what, I have a drift video with the usual 240's, Levins, and RX-7's but there are about 3 Y33 Cima's and a few other big JDM 4 doors. Those Y33's, don't exhibit ANY body roll as they are viciously sliding back and forth. It's just awesome to see these big 4 door cars snaking along like that.

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Postby szh » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

1992Q45A wrote:So, what about this... If the G50 is considered a better handler then the Y33, how would a G50 stack up against an M45..

I guess only fair to beef up the G50 with more rubber, tokico blues, A sway bar.. and all the handling goodies.. I guess then you could upgrade the M45 the same way.. always impossible to compare modified cars... That' being said, what do you think of the G50 vs the M45 in terms of handling?


Having owned both the very first-gen Q45 (a 1991) for seven years, a late first-gen Q45 (1995) for five years and now the M45 (2003) for under a year, this is an easy comparison for me to make. In terms of a comparison between a stock G50 and a stock M45, there is no contest.

The M45 is faster, both in terms of low-end (0-60mph) and high-end (60-120mph) acceleration. I have not yet taken my M45 to higher speeds than 120mph, but I did drive my 1991 Q45 at steady 145mph speeds for long distances and felt very comfortable. I have no reason to believe that the M45 is any less capable in this regard.

In terms of handling, the M45 also beats the G50 on handling in curves, tighter and more precise steering response, and more control on high-speed moves. Both cars are very well-balanced overall.

All in all, I consider the M45 a worthy replacement for the first-gen Q45 (G50).

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Postby 1992Q45A » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Can't wait to compare a Q with the goodies to an M45.. Espically an Active Q vs an M45 in terms of handling..

M has big advantage with 3 inchs more rubber on the ground. Much wider rubber at that.


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