M45 Eibach Drop - What Spacers to use for no rub?

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m45_ryde
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Hi All, I'm new to the M45 game. Just purchased a black 07 M45 sports with just a little over 15K miles on it a few weeks ago. The car is seriously awesome! Excellent power with a silky smooth ride. It already has the DVD hack installed as well, so that was a bonus. Other than that, I Just wanted to make a few fairly minor mods and I'll be perfectly happy.

First, I just ordered some Eibach springs because I wanted to drop the car a little and reduce the bit of bodyroll i feel when cornering.

Secondly, I wanted to add some quality Eibach spacers to get my stock oem 19" wheels to sit a little more flush with the fenders. I've read a bunch of posts on the Eibach springs and spacers in general, but don't think I've seen anyone with the eibach drop. spacers and stock wheels. So i'm not sure what would spacer sizes will work with stock wheels and eibach springs. I was thinking a staggered look would be awesome, like some of you members here have, 15 mm fronts and 20 mm in the rear. But was worried this setup would cause fender rubbing. I really want the most flush look I can get with rubbing or rolling my fenders. Any suggestions? Would 15 mm front, and 20 mm rear work with the eibach drop? Or should I go 10 mm front and 15 mm rear?

Glad to be a member of the Infiniti M family and thanks in advance for your advice and suggestions!

Here are some pics of my M as it is now:









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nadzak
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I have an Eibach drop with 20" FX wheels. 15mm spacers in the back, it is the maximum for my setup. The front i left stock, i like the staggered look, although i will try the 5mm to see how it looks.

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m45_ryde
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Thanks for the quick response nadzak!

The drop on your M looks perfect and is exactly the level I was hoping for. I actually got the Eibachs after seeing your post and a few others. Have you experienced any issues with your setup? Struts ever bottom out? Any fender rub?

Are the offsets of the 20" FX wheels the same as the stock 19" M45 wheels? Still wondering if I can get away with 15 mm front spacers with 20 mm rears with the eibach drops? Maybe I should go with the 10 and 15 spacers to be a little safer or 15 mm all around? Thoughts anybody?

nadzak
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No problems with the suspension at all. I love the way the car rides now. As far as the spaces go, do what i did (if you want ). Buy a set of 15 mm spacers and put them on the rear wheels. See how you like the fitment and go from there. If it is optimal, then buy a set of 5-10 mm and put them on the front. If there is a gap still, then get a set of 20mm and put them on the back, and move the 15's to the front. I dont know if the offsets are the same between the 20's and the 19's, but a guy here on the forum put 15 front and 20 rear on his 19's (not lowered) and it looked pretty damn good.

m45_ryde
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Ha... that's actually a pretty good idea. Didn't think about getting just the 15 mm first to test them on the rears to begin with. But it sounds like a great idea. I might go route, not sure why it never occurred to me. One of those simple yet. elegant solutions. Thanks again!

I did see that a couple guys seemed to have the 15 mm front and 20 mm rear with stock 19" wheels, but they were only lowered with Tien springs which don't drop quite as low as the Eibachs do. I think Tiens were 1" front and 0.5" rear, versus Eibach which is 1.6" front and 1.0" rear. Not sure if that half inch front front and rear might cause me problems with the same spacer setup.

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Post some pictures when you are done

m45_ryde
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Hey Nadzak,

I was going to order my spacers but just wanted to make sure I order the right parts... Are the part #'s below what I should be looking at?

15 mm spacers = 90.4.15.001.420 mm spacers = 90.4.20.003.4

Here's a link to the site I was going to order from:http://www.drivewire.com/produ...5688/

The parts #'s are listed as Nissan 350Z parts, and can't even find any Eibach spacers listed for the Inifiniti M45s, I assume this means they compatible parts? Any specific 350Z year I should choose to match up with my 07 M45?

nadzak
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Yeah, the Z should be identical to the M. Same bolt pattern, same hub...

m45_ryde
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Excellent, thanks again bro!

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I bought my M from the same Dealer. Keep the brake dust off your rims since the color is airbrushed. Mine is starting to spot, but I plan to get them powercoated soon.

They do have great prices and selection of M's though.
m45_ryde wrote:Hi All, I'm new to the M45 game. Just purchased a black 07 M45 sports with just a little over 15K miles on it a few weeks ago. The car is seriously awesome! Excellent power with a silky smooth ride. It already has the DVD hack installed as well, so that was a bonus. Other than that, I Just wanted to make a few fairly minor mods and I'll be perfectly happy.

First, I just ordered some Eibach springs because I wanted to drop the car a little and reduce the bit of bodyroll i feel when cornering.

Secondly, I wanted to add some quality Eibach spacers to get my stock oem 19" wheels to sit a little more flush with the fenders. I've read a bunch of posts on the Eibach springs and spacers in general, but don't think I've seen anyone with the eibach drop. spacers and stock wheels. So i'm not sure what would spacer sizes will work with stock wheels and eibach springs. I was thinking a staggered look would be awesome, like some of you members here have, 15 mm fronts and 20 mm in the rear. But was worried this setup would cause fender rubbing. I really want the most flush look I can get with rubbing or rolling my fenders. Any suggestions? Would 15 mm front, and 20 mm rear work with the eibach drop? Or should I go 10 mm front and 15 mm rear?

Glad to be a member of the Infiniti M family and thanks in advance for your advice and suggestions!

Here are some pics of my M as it is now:









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Modified by m45_ryde at 11:43 AM 5/24/2009

m45_ryde
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Yeah, Perfect Auto had some decent prices and a really nice inventory of pre-owned M's in stock. Didn't care much for the sales ppl tho.

Were you able to bargain down the price with them at all? What model M did you get? Have you done any mods at all? I would like to lower mine a little and add some spacers and call it a day.

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m45_ryde wrote:Yeah, Perfect Auto had some decent prices and a really nice inventory of pre-owned M's in stock. Didn't care much for the sales ppl tho.

Were you able to bargain down the price with them at all? What model M did you get? Have you done any mods at all? I would like to lower mine a little and add some spacers and call it a day.
post back in the thread when you get this done. I just bought my m45 2 months ago and pretty much like it the way it is. I was thinking of dropping it to get ride of the wheel gap. Let us know how this turns out.

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m45_ryde wrote:Thanks for the quick response nadzak!

The drop on your M looks perfect and is exactly the level I was hoping for. I actually got the Eibachs after seeing your post and a few others. Have you experienced any issues with your setup? Struts ever bottom out? Any fender rub?

Are the offsets of the 20" FX wheels the same as the stock 19" M45 wheels? Still wondering if I can get away with 15 mm front spacers with 20 mm rears with the eibach drops? Maybe I should go with the 10 and 15 spacers to be a little safer or 15 mm all around? Thoughts anybody?
You live in the DMV area right? who are you going to have install your springs for you? I'm thinking about buying these same springs and would need someone to do the install. Let me know who you go through and your experience with them and cost. Thanks!

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m45_ryde wrote:I did see that a couple guys seemed to have the 15 mm front and 20 mm rear with stock 19" wheels, but they were only lowered with Tien springs which don't drop quite as low as the Eibachs do. I think Tiens were 1" front and 0.5" rear, versus Eibach which is 1.6" front and 1.0" rear. Not sure if that half inch front front and rear might cause me problems with the same spacer setup.
Sup guys, I have been following the thread and I'm pretty much on the same page as you guys are. I have the 06 35 Sport and was wondering the scenerios of what would and wouldn't fit. After seeing the pictures of stock 19's on 15 and 20mm spacers, I went ahead and ordered me a set. The next question would be suspension. In my search I found that TEIN has 2 sets of springs to choose from. One set is almost Identical to the Eibach springs.

Eibach drops 1.6 Fr and 1.0 rear

TEIN S.Tech drops 1.8 Fr and 1.1 rear

TEIN High Tech drops 1.2 Fr and .5 rear

It will be probably later this year (I work over seas) before I have a chance to add a suspension setup, so i'll have a chance to see what route you went and take notes. I may consider coilovers, but they are not too high on my list of wants. I would much rather get springs and invest that other money into a set of 19" aftermarket wheels.

I'll post pics of the stock 19's and 15/20mm setup once installed, hopefully before I can leave to go back to work. But then again, someone here already has the same setup, but I guess a diff. colored car wouldn't hurt.

m45_ryde
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I just received my Eibach springs and still waiting to have my eibach spacers delivered. My plan was to try and install springs and spacers with a buddy of mine. He's got a good amount of experience installing springs.

Unfortunately, I'm on vacation soon, so probably won't get a chance to get everything installed and see how the fitment is, until late June at best. I'll make sure to post pics and a review once I'm done tho.

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-Bump-Any of you guys have install pics yet?

I am trying to show another new M owner what the options are and I am coming up empty.

If any of you guys in the DMV area need some help please feel free to contact me.

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Here is a Eibach drop with 20s. Im trying to get them to make a camber kit. May start contacting other companies in up coming weeks if I dont here back from them.


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I wonder what a camber kit w/ drop will do to the caster readings and tire wear. The drop without a camber kit decreases camber ~1.0 degree which will wear the tires unevenly especially with directional tires. We should have some pics soon of exactly what I was talking about but your M looks great with those wheels, I like the color contrast.

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SteveTheTech wrote:-Bump-Any of you guys have install pics yet?

I am trying to show another new M owner what the options are and I am coming up empty.

If any of you guys in the DMV area need some help please feel free to contact me.
Sorry, I haven't had a chance to install my Eibach spacers yet, because the place i ordered from had them backordered, and when I told them I wanted to cancel the order they said since it was backordered they had to special order it and it would cost me a 50% restocking fee... so I said screw it and decided to wait it out. They finally got it back in stock and said it will be shipping today so hopefully get them installed with my Eibach springs soon.

Steve, I'm actually located in the Fairfax NoVA area, Fairlakes area close to Fair Oaks mall. You in the neighborhood? I never tried installing springs myself before but a buddy of mine offered to help but he lives in MD. However it really sounds like from reading your posts around here you are a true expert on our cars and would be the perfect guy to help out with this if you have time and are willing?

Even if you can't help with the install, i was wondering what your thoughts were about the best dealership in the area to get my M45 serviced at? I took my car to the Infiniti of Chantilly and they took care of some warped rotors for me, but their prices seem rather high and I don't think they were the most honest. Any recommendations on local dealers with fair prices and good honest service? I need to get an oil change and a servicing. Also do you happen to know if dealerships offer free key remote programming and if not, how much they might charge for it? I heard that some dealerships offer the programming as a courtesy. I only got one key remote when i bought my car pre-owned and have ordered another remote from ebay but need to get it programmed now.

Thanks in advance!

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This is a drop on a members M45. I hope M45Owner does not mind me posting these pics But the car looks amazing. There are a few more that I've got but I am going to wait for him to post them.

m45_ryde-I read the original thread and was wondering if you had got your drop springs installed. They are not really hard...if you have all the specialty tools and a lift. It still takes me about 2.5-3hrs and some cursing. If you still want them installed I can do it for you for a very reasonable rate.

The DC area is interesting I think there are 5 Infiniti dealers within a 50 mile radius of DC. Mine is one of the smaller quieter ones that many people overlook. IOC is ok but they have some issues, I will not elaborate publicly. Tysons has a very skilled shop foreman but I don't know much about the rest of their service department.

I would be more than willing to help you out with you M. There are somethings like oil changes that need to go through the shop, and any warranty repairs. Feel free to contact me if you want to talk about it further.

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SteveTheTech wrote:I wonder what a camber kit w/ drop will do to the caster readings and tire wear. The drop without a camber kit decreases camber ~1.0 degree which will wear the tires unevenly especially with directional tires. We should have some pics soon of exactly what I was talking about but your M looks great with those wheels, I like the color contrast.
Im at -2* now. The rears are right at spec. Tech told me to lower pressure a little. So you dont think a camber kit will cause other issues. I faxed my alignment to Eibach but I havent heard back. Ill call them tomorrow to get some details.

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When you say the rear camber is in spec where in spec is it? The rear camber runs a fairly wide tolerance.

What are you lowering the tire pressure to? At the point when it will have a significant enough impact on camber, tire wear and handling will suffer greatly. I could be wrong and I hope to be proven as such.


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