LSX or Warhawk

[GoTRicEo0]

If people still check this old thread out... here's a quick update.Too lazy to make a new thread.

Most of you guys would kill me..... but here it goes I'm picking up a 92 240vert and... thats what the beast is going in. I'll have pics of the project in a few.

Now to find a stock ls1 to shove in while I build up the LSX block.
Modified by GoTRicEo0 at 1:02 AM 7/21/2008

[OutToWinPAHC]

The LSX block is documented by GM to go to 2400HP and has been done. There was one that made 2800+ on the dyno

[WDRacing]

Twin turbo or huge single LSx FTW IMO. If you're going for big numbers that is. The last issue of Car Craft highlights the fastest LSx cars in America.

LSx + boost = win everytime.

[ScottJackson]

Have you ever driven or ridden in an honest 1000hp car? Know what else can do 1000hp safely? A stock 2 bolt main 460 Ford block. And those are available for around $150. And you can build one to 557" for cheap. The stock 460 cast crank is safe to well over 1000hp too. Stock 2 bolt 351w blocks are safe to 800+hp, and so is the cast crank. They're pretty cheap too. The older sbc 4 bolt blocks are strong, but you'll need a forged crank. The big block chevy is fine also, but isn't as good of a platform as the big block ford and equivalent aftermarket parts are the same price. Of course the LSx is a good engine too. If you choose to build that, I vote for putting it in a Factory Five GTM.

[OutToWinPAHC]

But most of those dont fit our little Nissans too well. But a stock LS1 crank can hold 900-1000 but that 454 LSX is a gift to the engine gods, and they fit the S chassis like a glove

[GoTRicEo0]

Sorry for the late post.

Those are some insane numbers....I never been inside any 1000hp beast before. Maybe someday :]Majority of my friends are ford heads. I'm just trying to be a tad different of the group and venture out to different things. I will look into that block. For that price... sounds like a really good steal.

I have no idea what shell the motor should even be shoved into. The main use of the motor itself is to be a dyno queen. I would be pretty scared to drive something of that calibur

Single turbo ofcourse
Modified by GoTRicEo0 at 12:50 AM 2/27/2008

[WDRacing]

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I have no idea what shell the motor should even be shoved into. The main use of the motor itself is to be a dyno queen.

Not to be a d!ck, but this is a forum for either swapping a Nissan motor into a non Nissan shell, or vice versa. So if you're not going to install this motor into a Nissan, then this thread doesn't belong here.

If you ARE installing the LSX or whatever powerplant into a Nissan shell, then your best choices would be the 240z, 280z, 300z series or the 240SX series. Possibly even a 350Z or G35, but I would boost the VQ long before I swapped in a LSX.

Given that scenerio, a small block will be the best choice in a boosted application. Big cubes just aren't needed of you intend to use boost.

WD

[ScottJackson]

That's a lot of $$$ for just a dyno queen (expensive bragging rights that no one will really care about in the end anyway). I used to think I wanted 1000hp for a street car too. But the reality is that you'll get most enjoyment from a healthy 500-700hp (PLENTY to get in lots of trouble on the street) in a tight little car. I vote for a 4 bolt chevy 350 in a 300zx. If not that, a 351w ford (since you've got friends into fords, they should be able to steer you well). Add a Holset HX55 turbo or T70 Master Power or even a cheapy chinese GT45 copy (can get 'em from Ebay for $300 and they seem to be working well for folks). Then you can make 600hp no problem and it'll be a hell of a lot of fun without costing you a load of $$$ for something you're not even sure if you'll end up liking.

[WDRacing]

That's a lot of $$$ for just a dyno queen (expensive bragging rights that no one will really care about in the end anyway). I used to think I wanted 1000hp for a street car too. But the reality is that you'll get most enjoyment from a healthy 500-700hp (PLENTY to get in lots of trouble on the street) in a tight little car. I vote for a 4 bolt chevy 350 in a 300zx. If not that, a 351w ford (since you've got friends into fords, they should be able to steer you well). Add a Holset HX55 turbo or T70 Master Power or even a cheapy chinese GT45 copy (can get 'em from Ebay for $300 and they seem to be working well for folks). Then you can make 600hp no problem and it'll be a hell of a lot of fun without costing you a load of $$$ for something you're not even sure if you'll end up liking.

Even more realistic is 400whp in a 2800lb car. At 350ish in a S14 you're traction limited when it comes to the 1320. As a daily I don't see anything over 450 being needed. If I wanted a beast for the track I'd just plum in a 250 fogger and be done with it.

1000 is undriveable...not to mention baller $$

[OutToWinPAHC]

Yeah my vote is Gen 1 SBC, LS1 or 2, or a 302/351. But the LS series is an easier swap on most of the Nissan due to the nice front sump pan available from your local dealer.

I have a 11.5:1 SBC 400 with Aluminum heads, 600lift cam, and a forged bottom sitting in my garage paired up to a nasty powerglide. The LS was just easier to do so thats why I used the LS. The 400 would have been awesome in my 240sx, but im saving it for something else.

[GoTRicEo0]

No harm taken. I do agree fully as how useless the car itself would be. I don't want the brag'n rights but more of the sense knowing I built the thing. Chances are its going into my dad's 240z. The VQ was in the list of ideas, but since one tried to kill me... i best better off stay away from it.

As for daily driven. That will never happen. Dyno is the main purpose but it never hurts to head out to the local drag strip either. Besides, I have my SR for DD enjoyment

I just love the idea of big projects. Tiny stuff just gets done too quick. Picking up 2 jobs to support this. So I won't be on Nico much until weekens.

[ScottJackson]

Picking up more jobs to pay for a project that will be useless to drive? Doesn't sound like a good trade to me! 240Z? That does best with a rear sump oil pan. Go with a 350 chevy. I know it's been done a million times, but it works and works great. I had a 350 in an '89 camaro that was warmed over with the basics and was putting out around 450-500hp. If the roads were even slightly damp it'd go sideways at 70mph with some throttle. It'd bury the 160mph speedometer like no one's business. I'm building a '69 mach1 now and it's slated to get a turboed mild 514 with around 700-800hp. It's going to be more power than I can use, but should be daily drivable and fun. I set the engine back 10" and I'm going to run 15" wide tires. Still, it probably won't be enough. If I had to do it all again, I'd just go with a boosted 351. But I know you're not me. Still, seems like a lot of $$$ and sacrifice just to have a project that's more of a challenge than something practical for some use.