LSD's

Post by **The Bone** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

Who's got em. let me what you got, how they preform, one or two way.. I'm lookin @ Nismo 2way, KAAZ and Cusco....Thanks for the advise in advance.

Post by **encasemyheart** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

Also I would like to know what is needed to make a J30 LSD fit on my 92 240SX. I can't get any real answers because some say you need another differential cover and some say it's only the S14, and some say no mods at all it will fit right in. Can anyone clarify this for an s14?!?!?

Post by **The Bone** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

This should answer your question about the J30 LSD.

http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/lsd2/index.htm

Post by **I am Technoman** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

I say buy a 95 J30 diff including yokes. You must have the yokes. Open up your stock diff and take out your stock yokes and through them away. Remove your open diff with the ring gear attached to it and remove the ring gear from the open diff. On the J30 diff remove the yokes and keep them. Remove the LSD diff with that high *** ring gear on it and take that off. Put your stock ring gear on the LSD diff and put it back into your stock pumpkin along with the LSD yokes. You have just built a R200V with no ABS and a 4.086 gear....

A J30 diff should not cost anymore than 200 bucks.

Post by **encasemyheart** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

wow, so that will work and all I need is a 95+ j30 differential w/ yokes (what ARE yokes exactly?) and that's it because I use the stock pumpkin. Thanks.

Post by **matt0941** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

way to abduct his post, it shoulda been in suspension anyways though.

Post by **Aries** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

matt0941 wrote:way to abduct his post, it shoulda been in suspension anyways though.

and it's going there now

Post by **kingsoup** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

I was reading up on the 300Z TT LSD, and it says that you have too switch the input bit? Is that the part that attaches too the driveshaft? or the yolks that attach too the driveshafts.

I'm quite interested in it with the 3.86 gears, my supra has 3.9 and its too short as it is for any kind of milage or top end. I can't imagine a 4.11, had that in my old Mk2 Supra, way too short for a highway car.

Post by **mattback** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

i am personally a fan of the phantom grip!

Post by **Onizuka** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

im just going to get a stock silvia LSD, seems like the easyest way out, and im lazy so it seems perfect...

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

"i am personally a fan of the phantom grip!" thats because you havent driven a good LSD at the track yet. at 125 dollar peice cant repalce 900 dollars worth of clutch plates and engineering.

Either get one from a 180sx, a canadian 240sx, or though a company like phase 2, after-dark tuning, or enjuku-racing.-chet

Post by **raging panda** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

Hey bone, the site u suggested said that all canadian 240s have vlsd, is this true? can anybody verify this, because if its true im makin a trip to canada real soon.

Post by **240_Keyy** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

I got mine from http://www.lsauto.com Kevin sells the 5 bolt ones out of the 94-98 JDM 180's with halfshafts to boot!

Post by **optiks** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

i have driven a 240 sx with a phantom grip and my canada spec 240 wit stock lsd, im sorry but there is no comparasin

Post by **C-Kwik** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

kingsoup wrote:I was reading up on the 300Z TT LSD, and it says that you have too switch the input bit? Is that the part that attaches too the driveshaft? or the yolks that attach too the driveshafts.

I'm quite interested in it with the 3.86 gears, my supra has 3.9 and its too short as it is for any kind of milage or top end. I can't imagine a 4.11, had that in my old Mk2 Supra, way too short for a highway car.

Apples and oranges. transmission gearing ratios may be quite different between a Supra and a 240. I've felt what a J30 diff does to a stock KA. It makes it quite a dog in comparison to the stock gearing. A turbo car that has traction problems might benefit some from a taller rear gear though.

Post by **silverPS13** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

raging panda wrote:Hey bone, the site u suggested said that all canadian 240s have vlsd, is this true? can anybody verify this, because if its true im makin a trip to canada real soon.

All Canadian 240's 91+ have factory LSD, stupid me brought an 89

Next time

Post by **The Bone** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

hay guys, it look like i'm going Nismo 2way for off the line and cornering, does anyone know if this thing is really noisey or not...also going to go with an aluminum dirveshart...need to put all those NA power down to the ground...late, let ya know how it comes out.

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

hey 240_keyy did LS automotive give you pretty good service...Im going to have to buy a LSD, and I think for now(until I do get up to the track) I just want a stock LSD form a later model year...I wonder if they have them in stock..-chet

Post by **240_Keyy** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

Exar-Kun: Yes, LS Auto gave me excellent customer service. When I called them to order my diff, Kevin was very helpful and explained the whole thing to me about the JDM axles and assured me that the gearing was also correct (I thought the jdm ones were 386's but not all are apparently) Anyway, I paid and Kevin shipped out the diff that day. The next day he called me up and told me that he had accidentally sent me two drivers side axles and he cross shipped a passenger side axle to me free of charge. I got the diff on a Thursday and the axle came in the next morning, so it was all good.

Overall, even with the mix up, I highly recommend them. Their response time to e-mail is quick, but their phone support is quicker and definitely top notch.

Post by **C-Kwik** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

silverPS13 wrote:All Canadian 240's 91+ have factory LSD, stupid me brought an 89 Next time

According to Don Nimi, this is a rumor that is quite untrue.

Post by **kingsoup** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

Quote »Apples and oranges. transmission gearing ratios may be quite different between a Supra and a 240. I've felt what a J30 diff does to a stock KA. It makes it quite a dog in comparison to the stock gearing. A turbo car that has traction problems might benefit some from a taller rear gear though.[/quote]Actually my R-154 R-speed is quite simliar too the S13 5-speed.

240sx1st 3.321:12nd 1.9:13rd 1.3:14th 1.00:15th 0.759:1

Mk3 Supra1st: 3.25:1 2nd: 1.96:1 3rd: 1.31:14th: 1.00:15th: 0.75:1

I turn about 3100 rpm at 120kph, 3600 at 140kph, its not good at all. If anyone can confirm RPM per speed on the 240 that would help! With 300hp I find my gears run out too early (especialyl with 6500rpm redline) for over 200kph my car is useless. I think that 4.11 rear end even with a higher 7500redline with an SR20 its gonna be too short with 260hp or so. I don't really care about 1/4 mile or road course so much. I need a good rear end for highway milage, I can't take 20mpg anymore.

Hopefully the J30 or Z32TT LSD will do the trick! Is the LSD on the TT's mechanical? While the stock S13 is Viscous I assume by the title of VLSD.

Post by **240_Keyy** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

it is supposed to be 22 MPH x 1000rpm in 5th gear.

Far as I know the TT diffs are also Viscous.

Post by **silverPS13** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

I dont know maybe it is just a rumour? It made sense to me though since with the climate and snow, etc. An open diff is kinda useless, maybe not all canadian 240's but I'm sure a lot more here then in the states, I'm sure it was a big selling feature for the Nissan dealers

Question: Was LSD even offered in the states? Just curious

*moved* clicked new post instead of reply

Post by **raging panda** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

Yea LSD was offered for s13 w/ the 4wheel steering and the SE S14s I believe. Something like that ne ways.

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

yes, it was an option/package with HICAS on the s13 w.abs, and on MOST SE s14's(with abs).-chet

Post by **AJ-SPEC** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

do the guys that already have the lsd stock still upgrade? any reason to do that on a stock/mildly modded s14?

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

nope. the stock LSD unit is good for 400hp, for most conditions..-chet

Post by **matt0941** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

I am trying to select between two clutch-type LSDs: The Kaaz 1.5-way LSD and Nismo S.S.S. I understand that the SSS is much more user friendly when trying to adjust the breakaway torque but what other types of other differences are there? Thank you.

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

I believe the kaaz unit has more clutch packs(IE heavier duty), but Im not absolutely sure about it...-chet

Post by **burgy240** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:58 pm

SO which would have the higher top speed for an SR s14.....the stock/silvia/or j30 lsd? Not worried about 1/4 mile either. thanks

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