LSD Question

[ahbongkeo]

what an sr

[LSB_11]

i have a 240sx that is getting the sr swap done in about 3 weeks, thats what 240 w/(thats with if you didnt know) sr( thats an sr20det if you didnt know)

[240Knightrider]

Its and engine from JDM, Japan domestic Market. Its the engine that is ran over their.

[ahbongkeo]

on the internet, some 240sx are referred as 240sx ser....what does that mean

scroll down and look at the time for 240sx

http://www.albeedigital.com/su....html

and they do better time

[240Knightrider]

Check it again it says 200SX which is a different model from nissan.

[240Knightrider]

oops, looking over again I see. I have never heard of a 240 SE-R unless they did an engine swap

[ahbongkeo]

theres a 200sx se-r and if you scroll down some more theres a 240sx se-r

[Ligouri Rd]

Sorry, no such thing as 240sx SE-R, unless someone was renaming thier car=Rice!Anyway, back to the topic at handQuote »how is the kaaz lsd compare to the nismo lsd. if i get kaaz lsd what other parts or modification do i need to do inorder for it for fit? or is it a bolt on? i have a 95 240sx w/o lsd[/quote]Quote »i have been told that even the clutch style is weak, as in, i cannot do a brake stand for more then 15 second or it will hurt it. and what about fully mechanical lsd, as in no clutches or vlsd? and is mechanical and clutch style lsd the same thing? and if NOT, then what is this.[/quote] After one wheel peeling my way through autox yesterday, I saw that Kaaz 1.5 and 2 way are goin for ~$860 and the Nismo one is $790 at courtesy. Anyone know if the Nismo is 1.5 or 2 way?

Ps: Quaife has a fully mechanical torsen type differential but its $1500, ouch. http://www.quaifeamerica.com/d...s.htm

[Ligouri Rd]

bump! Quote »Anyone know if the Nismo is 1.5 or 2 way?[/quote]

[LSB_11]

i would put my money on the 1.5 way, just cause it is from nismo and they prolly wouldnt make a full race locking lsd, not for the public, i just doesnt seem practicall for them to do that, but then again what do i know

[K240]

does anyone know, if the Silvias lsd can bolt into a 240sx? My friend has one, from a Silvia, that he wants to sell me.

[K240]

BUMP!

[240Knightrider]

theres a 200sx se-r and if you scroll down some more theres a 240sx se-r

There are 240SERthe Newer Silvias were referred to as 240SX SE-R for the package

[PalmerWMD]

Anyway, back to the topic at hand After one wheel peeling my way through autox yesterday, I saw that Kaaz 1.5 and 2 way are goin for ~$860 and the Nismo one is $790 at courtesy. Anyone know if the Nismo is 1.5 or 2 way?

Ps: Quaife has a fully mechanical torsen type differential but its $1500, ouch.

The Nismo is a 2 way.NICO Sponsor Optionimports sells it, I just bought one.

Its listed for $785 on their site ( MSRP $950) but if you identify yourself as a a NICO member you get it for slightly less than that, SHIPPED!

At that point, I figured, why go used when with shipping used VLSD's run as much as $400+.

http://optionimports.com/ni2waylsd892.html

Fred..:thumbup

[K240]

Hey Fred, i was wondering if you know, if the Silvias lsd can bolt into a 240sx? My friend has one, from a Silvia, that he wants to sell me. thnkx

[PalmerWMD]

K240:

I'd love to be able to help you, but I am originally an Infinit guy and am just now learning the 240sx.

Amongst our Nico staff, Alan aka NismoFreak Paul aka Movingviolation, smithSR and others would better sources than me.

I hope they see this thread soon if not I may link them.

Fred..

[sr20power]

for my two cents:

i have a stock vlsd in my car, w/ stock tires (420 treadwear) its all a beginner needs to drift. i autox and it makes one hell of a difference.

my bro has a cusco lsd type rs in his 92 240 ($1000). holy sheit that thing locks-up. it might be too much lock for my heavy foot in autoxing, but for drifting it amazing!

i tried drifting some figure 8's w/ my car and it wasn't very smooth. then i tried it in his car and damn it was sooooo smooth. you can keep the tires lock much easier w/ less effort on the gas pedal, and the kick back to make the car go the other direction was much more noticeable when it happens.

i don't know how the kaaz and nismo lsd are, but the cusco knowing from first hand experience is worth the $1000. it does have its drawbacks. the constant chatter when taking turns normal driving. wouldn't not advise driving in the rain (w/ 400 and above treadwear tires) you'll be slipping like crazy and never downshift in the rain!

just my 2 cents.....

[240Knightrider]

^im pretty sure the Silvia will match up, just gotta get the years right.

[[Zero-S]]

S13 and S14 vlsds will bolt right up, s15 hlsd will not. You have to physically swap the innards between the two pumpkins *and* have the output shafts from the s15.

[Ligouri Rd]

Hey thanx for the info. Im prolly gonna go with the Kaaz since it is 1.5 way. I am into autox and not nessasarily drifting. I want the diff not to lock up completely off power so I get a better turn-in while getting more power to the ground post corner. No more one-wheel-peel!

[sr20power]

ligour RD:Quote »Hey thanx for the info. Im prolly gonna go with the Kaaz since it is 1.5 way. I am into autox and not nessasarily drifting. I want the diff not to lock up completely off power so I get a better turn-in while getting more power to the ground post corner. No more one-wheel-peel![/quote]i'm pretty sure that even with the kaaz 1.5 there still going to lock some what, 1.5 means its not as strong on decelerating. even my vlsd locks some what when i lift off the pedal.

if you can spend the $800 or so then by all means.....but if you don't plan on drifting, i think the vlsd is good enough ($300) i autox with falken sports and i can still power slide out of corners (heavy right foot :asmile )

one set back with vlsd, is that your buying a used one. you don't know what condition it is in =(

[PalmerWMD]

And remember folks the mechanical ones are tougher too, especially if reasonably maintained (fluid changes).

When you get one, be sure to specify, if you want a 1.5 way (road course friendly) or 2 way (drift course friendly).

Fred..

[LSB_11]

so is the nismo unit a "mechanical" style lsd, i never really got a clear answer on that, by that i mean, not clutch style.

[PalmerWMD]

so is the nismo unit a "mechanical" style lsd, i never really got a clear answer on that, by that i mean, not clutch style.

I consider any LSD that is not a VLSD style "mechanical"(is that not correct nomenclature?)

including these two I looked at:

from optionimportshttp://optionimports.com/ni2waylsd892.html

and this one from phase2:http://www.store.yahoo.com/pha....html

Fred..

[turtl631]

Well, there are clutch type LSDs and helical. Quaife is helical, as is the s15 one (I think). All the rest are clutch type.

[LSB_11]

so "helical" has just gears in it, no clutches or viscous action going on? and how bad is the chatter and is there any wheel hop around corners or anything on the nismo 2 way unit.

[turtl631]

Yeah, the helical one uses helical gears, no pressure plates or anything. I think they're better for handling/road course duties, but the clutch type are superior for dragging and drifting. Viscous types aren't that good in general mostly because the viscous goop inside breaks down with time, and also isn't as strong as pressure plates or helical gears can be.

[driftaholic]

my $.02:--my friend pulled a clutch type LSD from an R32. he said it was stock. can anyone verify this?--S13 silvia VLSDs and axles are 5-bolt--180SX VLSDs and axles are 6-bolt--S14 VLSDs will fit S13s, but have to have the rear covers swapped or it won't bolt up to the subframe

[LSB_11]

why would the clutches and pressure plates be better for dragging and drifting, from what i understand the pressure plates feel one wheel slip and then convert power to the other wheel untill the other slips then moves power back to the other wheel, but does it so fast you cant even feel or notice it. so why would a full locking helical lsd be better for drag or drift?

[SilviaS14KA24DE]

instead of burning out, you have to do doughnuts. If you can easily do doughnuts consistenly, and have two tire marks deep in color, then you've got LSD. Don't burn out.