LS-1 times?

Post by **lexrob** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:14 pm

I am def. considering this my next project. Especially since that kit came out and makes it a drop in(excluding the wiring). I just wanted to see some time slips with build set up's. If im not mistaken ls-1+2000$ worth of bolt ons and a cam/lifter set up would put an s14 into 10sec passes. In other words a 10sec car for i dont know maybe 7-10k. IM SOLD

That of course being that traction is there.

Post by **lexrob** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:21 pm

Just to add you could still use pump gas. Throw on a fiberglass/cf hood to compensate for some of weight. Put in a j30 diff and the fattest tires possible! I dont get why theres so much hate.

Now if you added nos ls motors love and slicks. The possibilities......

Post by **i_love_my_300zx** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:52 pm

lexrob wrote: I dont get why theres so much hate.

I ask the same question. These engines make power easy, and so much cheaper. I dont get why some ppl hate the fact you can make, with an ls1, close to 400hp with minimal bolt ons. Add in the fact that it is an all aluminum engine, compact and cheap.

Post by **rb25drag** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:17 pm

Well the Ls1 is far from cheap. Its as expensive as an RB swap. Just b/c the ls1's became popular and made the price sky rocket.

As for best Bang for the Buck. LS1 ALL THE WAY!

If I had it to do over again. For the money I got in my Rb swap. I would be LS1 with a big 80mm turbo on it making about 800 at the Tires.

Or you could go Old school 400sbc with a turbo setup and make 6-800 for less than 10k

There is options better.

as for a Nice daily driver with a TON of Tq and options to upgrade. LS1 all the way.

Im not a Nitrous fan by any means. Im a turbo guy all the way lol

Post by **rb25drag** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:23 pm

as for Et, I guy I know has a ls1 s14 with a cam and header setup and he runs 11.60's

Post by **lexrob** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:18 pm

Yep i have been checking out prices. Better off finding a wrecked z28 and ebaying the rest. Glad someone out there feels me on it im thinking this will be the next THING to do. And as far as DD.. gas milage.. parts sourcing.. aftermarket AVAILABILITY.

Why in the world is power fc discontinued. And also it seems oem rb20det oem hg's are also unavailable. Im just feed up with the wait guys RB all the way as far as design and style just need PARTS. just my two $

Post by **Sil80315** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:10 pm

lq4's love boost.

I was thinking about piecing one together cause lq4 with lq6 intake with head package. 500hp all and since the lq4 is an iron block it will take a turbo no problem but is a little heavier then an ls1 aluminum block

Post by **lexrob** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:41 am

i have actually saw a z28 camaro with one of those at nopi. He said they are way cheaper and make more torque. Im not shur if that is correct but sounds like and option.

Website · Post by **meet07** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:53 am

I love my rb but your right....ls1 or any of the ls's would be nice. A local musle car shop had a dyno day a few weeks ago and there just isnt no replacement for displacement. one guy had a 350 with a turbo wider than my waste. Claimed that he made 2000+ hp at 50psi. Plus we all know that the parts are cheaper.

its kinda funny b/c we wanna be like the Japs and they want to be like us. I think we have the better options

Post by **cnichols** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:00 am

To dispell a myth...there is no need to go with an iron block with a turbo. Compression is way more important. Nobody on this forum is going to be pushing the limits of even a stock Gen III/IV LS-based aluminum block. The only advantage of the iron Gen III/IV small blocks is the cheaper cost.

Post by **rb25drag** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:27 pm

cnichols wrote:To dispell a myth...there is no need to go with an iron block with a turbo. Compression is way more important. Nobody on this forum is going to be pushing the limits of even a stock Gen III/IV LS-based aluminum block. The only advantage of the iron Gen III/IV small blocks is the cheaper cost.

There was no myth of whether the aluminumn block is stronger or not. It was all a Price comparison

How do you know that someone on this forum won't push over 1000hp on a ls block?

We run a aluminum block on our 500CI Blown Nitro 8000hp Top fuel boat. The alumnium blocks have been proven.

My point was for the Price of a Ls Swap. I could have an Oldschool Iron Block with a Turbo setup good for 600+hp. The Ls motors ar WAY WAY over priced!

Post by **cnichols** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:45 am

Sil80315 wrote:l...and since the lq4 is an iron block it will take a turbo no problem...

This is why I posted what I did about the iron and aluminum blocks....I see this far too often and wanted to say something about it.

It was not directed at you rb25drag.

Post by **lexcrob** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:56 am

back form the DEAD---but has anyone ever put an LT-1 into a 240?

Post by **rb25drag** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:12 am

lt-1's are good motors if you keep them stockish, I built a bad a** 383 stroker for a buddy of mine, but he has alot of issues with the opti spark, even the 500$ msd units are junk. + he has around 5000$ in it. Car makes 420whp, But seems to be like an rb motor. Always a problem. But when that motor was bone stock it was good n reliable. For the money you better stick with an ls swap, 4.8-5.3-5.7-or the 6.0, better aftermarket support, better head design, and alot more responsive to bolt ons, + the make Factory 40-60 more hp than lt-1. Just my experience with one.

Post by **lexcrob** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:16 pm

LQ4??? mounts in the same place etc. --they are cheaper for shur!

Post by **rb25drag** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:34 pm

The lq4 would def be a much better choice, there strong motors.

Post by **lexcrob** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:52 pm

motor mounts same as ls1? sikky kit work ---can sikky wire it for that instead?

Post by **rb25drag** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:02 pm

Yup all the mounts are the same, 4.8,5.3,5.7(ls1) and 6.0 are all the same engines with different cubic inches. On my 5.3 I have ordered everything for a ls1 except the plug wires. And that's cause the truck motors have longer wires.

Post by **SpeedshifterNC** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:40 pm

LS2/LS3 are the best motors to start w if you want to make serious power..an ls1 is good for about 550hp on a stock block which is more than enough for 10 sec time slips..Im there w 540 in my pig of a camaro

Post by **lexcrob** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:16 pm

What are the real numbers that the VH series motors throw down i heard 300 range to a 240's wheels in stock trim......maybe false. Possibly a "cheaper" option id say not more reliable of cheaper to maintain but ...eh

Post by **cnichols** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:36 pm

VH will put down nowhere near what an LS1 will to the wheels. I'm guessing they will be lucky to put down 250 on a dyno dynamics....probably more like 230-240. Stock LS1 with LS1 manifold will put down 310 on that dyno with just headers and exhaust. So yeah, you're looking at a solid ~75 hp difference out of the box, not to mention the VH has almost no aftermarket and is a huge pain to install and is harder and more expensive to maintenance. Basically, there is no logical reason to choose a VH over an LSx. Hence the reason I have an LSx in my car.

Post by **lexcrob** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:29 pm

^ hahaha i wish ida thought of it like that picked up some parts from some guy (convinced VH was underated by a TON sayin that throw down like 300 at least)

LSX huh AWESOME!

I think ima have to do a lq4 but what about wiring? can anyone do a conversion for a fair price? i guess i can call sikky

Post by **sommmatt** » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:33 am

I took my LQ4 M6 car to the drag strip over the weekend. Stock motor with a cam, LS1 intake (s***), C5 exhaust manifolds (s***). It's maybe making 400 at the wheels. Car was pretty much full weight, battery up front, daily driven, half tank of gas or so (the difference in traction with no gas to max gas is retarded). It went 12.4 @ 118 with a 2.01 60ft on 205 continental tires.

It's a very fast car, but just because it has an LS1 doesn't automatically make it a 10 second car. There is a lot of suspension work to be figured out, a big tire needs to go on it which means possible drivetrain damage, our diffs are tiny, and with a manual trans, you probably need a hit or a lot less weight to go that fast.

I plan on doing a fast intake with huge throttle body, custom longtubes and a better street tire, along with a lot of practice to hopefully bust into the 11's after driving the car to the track. With a tire and a hit, it would definitely be a 10 second car after those modifications are done, but going 10's is still a lot of work.

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