Lowering the s14?

[Fbomb19]

Hello nico members, I didnt know wether this was technical or general but its sounds pretty general to me.
Anyways... I have a stock s14 and im pretty much just about tired of this 4x4 look its got. And i been looking up springs on ebay and what not. The real expensive ones drop like an inch? Like really? I wanna throw it on the ground. I dont see the point in the any name brand ones like that if their not doing the "DROP". Best ones i can find are drop zone for a 100.... 1.8 front and back drop. BUT i have also thought about maby cutting my springs? idk if its a great idea and what not. Or also i heard i can heat them? idk much about these methods but their possible options. I know you guys are gona bring up coilovers and these real expensive set ups but honestly im broke and cheap lol. I just want the stiffest cheap set up i can do. AND like i said I wanna throw it on the ground! literally!..

And Btw... This is my daily. I dont really abuse it. I might mess around in the rain from time to time on a turn ot two but i really dont abuse it. So just letting you guys know... If that helps. But please inform me on the heating of the springs and cutting them. Anything helps. But looks like drop zones are the main ones so far. let me know thanks.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Coilovers, if you want low you wont be doing it with springs and shocks. Also if you cut or heat your springs, your ride will feel like absolute hell. Do it right with a good coilover (not that godspeed, or other cheap ebay stuff)

[Gabes13]

I dont see the point in the any name brand ones like that if their not doing the "DROP"

Please don't. You'd have to cut half you spring to get a decent height, and even then, you'll be riding on your bump stops. It's your car, invest a little.

[simmode1]

Cutting your springs is NEVER the way to go. Either get some decent entry level coilovers or a Koni yellow with Ground Control spring setup. But I'd just go with coilovers for ease and more low. Gotta pay to play, homie.

[Nissan_Driver]

Adjustable coilovers.

[pj]

man just remove the springs altogether. heck remove the shocks too. you dont need that crap...

[SX APPEAL]

Yeah you're not going to "throw it on the ground" for cheap, in any way shape or form, so get that idea out of your head right now. Plan on spending *AT LEAST* 800 on coilovers, $200 on adjustable suspension arms, and $100 or so getting it aligned. And like I said, those are just bare minimum numbers. I know thats not what you wanted to hear, but thats how it is.

[night240]

Yeah you're not going to "throw it on the ground" for cheap, in any way shape or form, so get that idea out of your head right now. Plan on spending *AT LEAST* 800 on coilovers, $200 on adjustable suspension arms, and $100 or so getting it aligned. And like I said, those are just bare minimum numbers. I know thats not what you wanted to hear, but thats how it is.

indeed. dude, dont cut ur springs it's dumb move. if u want to go low coilovers or just simply do koni yellow struts whatever after market springs u want.

I'm gonna do Eibach springs and Koni yellow struts.

[Fbomb19]

alright i understand guys. But this is really just for now until i can save up for high quality stuff. I know its gona be hard to slam it but i wanna a good drop. Just for now... Decent handling for cheap? on stock struts what do you guys think?

[pj]

dont bother at all. leave it stock, save the money you have for coilovers.
the lowest drop springs, are like 1.7-1.8 or somthing...stock struts will scream and die shortly after...they wont handle good then and will most likely be worse.
so as everyone has already said, save for coils man, plan on at least 1000-1200 and you will be set.

[Fbomb19]

yeah... its gona be a while b4 i get a hold of those. =/ i just wanna kill this 4x4 look it has. guess not tho. I cant even get a hold of rims cuz itll look terrible with this hieght. ......! might just possibly trade my s14 for a s13 with some mods =) simple solution.

[mynamesmarrrk]

I'm not trying to be a d!ck but this is exactly what is wrong with the 240sx or import community in general. Save up and do it right. You'll thank yourself in the long run.

[pj]

you're late

[LoserCard]

Jesus you guys are evil. He's poor and needs to be pointed in the right direction. He's not a criminal, just naive. No cut springs for one, or heated for that matter. Lowest you will economically go is spring/strut combo. You may pick up a used set for around $250-$400. Although, you may find some used coilovers in out classified section for $500-$800. If you can afford it, go for the latter, but a nice spring strut combo will yield you decent, daily drivable results. Not everything needs to be cut and dry, coilovers or die.

As for you NICO members... don't hate, educate.

[SX APPEAL]

He said he wanted to "throw it on the ground." We told him he couldn't do that for cheap. It was a very educational experience...

[gijoe392003]

I'm not trying to be a d*** but this is exactly what is wrong with the 240sx or import community in general. Save up and do it right. You'll thank yourself in the long run.

There is nothing wrong with the 240 community. There is not one person on this thread and hopefully forum that will advocate cut springs or being cheap on suspension. Where did this whole cut springs thing come from anyway?

[Gabes13]

He said he wanted to "throw it on the ground." We told him he couldn't do that for cheap. It was a very educational experience...

Really hahaha

I'm not trying to be a d*** but this is exactly what is wrong with the 240sx or import community in general. Save up and do it right. You'll thank yourself in the long run.

There is nothing wrong with the 240 community. There is not one person on this thread and hopefully forum that will advocate cut springs or being cheap on suspension. Where did this whole cut springs thing come from anyway?

Its from 20 something years ago when companies didn't make lowering springs or coilovers for your application.You cut the springs for a drop and torch 'em to up the rate; vuala, instant street cred. True story.

[RustspecS13]

I'm poor and want my car to look good, here are some bad ideas, how bad are they?

Yeah don't do it.

First, the stock struts are made for that horrible giant ride height. You chop off coils on your stock springs you run out of suspension travel and bam, you throw out your ride quality. Neck snapping over bumps sucks. Oh and you'll instantly blow any strut, new nissan, tokico, kyb etc etc.

second, those awesome short springs you just cut, they can at any time just jump off the spring holder, and either puncture your tire, or just generally destroy or lock things up.

Third, heating springs up, its the opposite of cutting them. Now your springs are pillow soft, and have just as little movement as option 1. As in it'l go from super soft, to 100% hard/no movement in an instant. Sounds like maybe that would be dangerous, if you hit a bump in the middle of a corner huh?

I'm not trying to be an ***hole, but think of what your messing with. Its your mutipul thousand dollar car, with thousands of pounds of weight to control, and you could total your car, or get some one killed.

I'm all for a low stance, but its not worth it to do it wrong and ruin what your trying to look at.

So for seriously lowering your car you can:

Get lowering springs, and not cut them. This will give you a little stiffer ride, lower stance, and safety. You will wear out your struts faster, but its a decent short term solution.

Cheap ebay coils do a decent job. I slammed my s13 coupe on some, but they only lasted 12-15K miles. Rode nice and looked good, until they were literally dangerous to drive with. I paid my friend $100 for them. he had 30 miles on them and was selling the car. I was tucking tire on 205/50/16's. It was low.

Your most expensive option is used JDM coils. They will last a lot longer then new china coils, but its of course more expensive.

~Alex

[gijoe392003]

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Used JDM coils for a lot less than Megans and most will slam the crap out of your car.

[95s14green]

for my 95 s14 i just got cheap mr2 (ebay) 2" drop lowerig springs on stock struts (temporary). works great and they are "2 inch drop" but when you first put them on your car keep in mind they settle after a while so they will get slightly lower.

here they are:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX-S1 ... ccessories

[Fbomb19]

^ those springs look mighty good to me.... And @ everyone this is just for now. Im not gona cheap out on my s14. But for now i needa do something so she looks better until i can get the money together for legit stuff. Cuz my rear struts are already blow so ima replace the rear with used stock struts and Possibly buy those ^^^ blue springs ^_^

[RustspecS13]

I completely understand, I just got a hatch, and I'm going to rock some drop springs on the tokico struts it came with until spring. Then I'm getting some GOOD coilovers, likely in the 2K range. I don't want to drive with them in the winter tho.

It drives me nuts though, I'm used to my slammed coupe and hatch.

~Alex

[Fbomb19]

yeah man ^ people talking about some damm coilovers that cost money!. Im broke. This is just so my eyes dont hurt when i see my s14. 2inch drop ebay springs with stock used struts. =win .... until struts blow . Ill buy the legit coilovers later. =)

[SX APPEAL]

2inch drop ebay springs with stock used struts. =win .... until struts blow . Ill buy the legit coilovers later. =)

[barefoot mat]

yeah man ^ people talking about some damm coilovers that cost money!. Im broke. This is just so my eyes dont hurt when i see my s14. 2inch drop ebay springs with stock used struts. =win .... until struts blow . Ill buy the legit coilovers later. =)

dear god

[RustspecS13]

yeah man ^ people talking about some damm coilovers that cost money!. Im broke. This is just so my eyes dont hurt when i see my s14. 2inch drop ebay springs with stock used struts. =win .... until struts blow . Ill buy the legit coilovers later. =)

Yeah, just be careful. My roommate crashed his s14 because his struts were 100% blown and it acted like a pogo stick, and he wasn't paying full attention driving in the rain. Just saying know your limits.

The coilover's I'm buying are high end racing ones so I can go to track days and drift days and compete, my street car will have something much less expensive. Your best bet is to buy used coilovers, from an individual, not an importer.

Bottom line, you can cur corners, but have some respect for what that does to your car's limits.

~Alex

[Fbomb19]

Im one of those hard headed idiots that kinda get told the consequences and then i go do it anyways. But just so you know... Even tho i asked and u guys already. and u told me cutting my springs was a bad a idea. I kinda did it anyways. Long story short i got a friend with a ae86 thats literally hovering over the ground. He happen to cut his springs. (hence the idea) and i decided to let him cut them since his came out so well... well Uhh my fronts are pretty decent.... My rear had blown struts to start with anyways. But he decided to cut the coils form the bottom and they get smaller at the bottom to hold in place. So my springs (both) kinda just, fell out. And well . I got blown struts in the rear with NO SPRINGS!
and ITS NOT GOOOOOD! .... my head hit the roof a couple of times. I drive on flat pavement and even the smallest thing on the road has me doing the harlem shake! lol.
But yeah just had to tell u guys. lmao. im so FAIL. lol. AND believe me if i could click a undo button i would. Handles like crap! i miss my stock height. But yeah. just had to let u guys in on the fun lmfaooooooooooooooooo.

[RustspecS13]

PM me, my roommate might have some extra s14 springs. I have like 4 or 6 s13 rear springs laying around, they might work better then what you have now.

~Alex

[95s14green]

i have 4 oem rear springs and 2 oem front springs. want em?

[Fbomb19]

NAY... thanks anyways guys. I got me tien s tech springs, kyb agx struts and tien camber plates for 200 dollors locally from craigslist. So im kinda set ^_^ suspension feels great... ive never had this feeling. >,>