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Anybody had success??

I'm leery of the all meat/cheese/eggs Atkins thing mainly because meat is full of hormones and antibiotics (esp. beef).

Seems the consensus is that white flour, white rice, and white sugar are the root of all evil (high glycemic index foods, makes you produce too much insulin and turn the carbs into fat). Also, vegetable oil is worse than butter.

I've cut back on carbs for about 2 weeks. Feel skinnier, look skinnier, but still weigh about the same.

Am I just pissing it all out?

p.s.- I'm 29, 6'2", about 235 lbs, ideal weight for me would be about 210-215 (not a twink :freak )


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man, i would be sketchy about that. i had a buddy that went to the gym with me a lot. and he ended up passing out because of it. you will feel drained without the carbs. it just can't be good for your body to go without the carbs like that. i suggest cutting back on them like stay away from potatoes and bread. lay off the cokes too. just water for me. ummm...no beer either, switch to vodka and OJ or beam and coke. RUN, RUN RUN. no eating in front of the tv either.

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The diet our bodies are designed for, is the one most prevalent in a hunter gatherer society, as our bodies have remained unchanged from those days.

A human in the wild, so to speak, would eat a lot of carbs and not too many proteins and fats.

Or put differently:Stay away from low carb diets, they are not natural for you and can be downright dangerous.

Fred...:)

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The best way for a Human adult male to lose weight is to exercise aerobically.

When you work out real hard, you wont feel hungry for a while and burns lots of calories to boot.If I didnt work out I would be a blimp.

Fred...:)..(runs, not jogs, 15-20 miles a week)..

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I second that, its more about eating right and exercising than it is about eating only fats and such. You don't need to eat only meat or only greens to lose weight, just be more active. Running alone will suck so much fat off you you'd be stunned. Its just harder to do. : )

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I lost 55 lbs from the atkins diet. My blood pressure is 120/ 72 and my health is top notch. The atkins diet works. I know this from first hand expierence.

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Yeah man running is by far the best excercise for you, maybe swimming, but running is easier to do. Be like me run anywhere from 35-60 miles a week and you will not gain weight. Maybe it's cause i'm young and have a high metabolism, but i'm about 5'10" 142 or so, and i'm not just skin and bones. Trust me go w/ running it does a lot of good.

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now the important part.is how to manage excersize into the schedule of working mornings, going to school at night, and the time you have off you are doing homework and studying..

I run in my dreams if that counts :D

I have always loved carbs.. I tried the no carbs/no sugars for about a week... i couldn't stand not being able to eat breads rice or my favorite, potatoes!!

I can cut out the sugar and fat.... but ahhhhhhh.. carbs?? no way

-Dan

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The ONLY thing that is positive about a protien intensive diet is putting ON weight via weight lifting. Your body will perform at its best if you eat a well balanced diet...HIGH in carbo loaded foods, and moderately indulging in protiens and fats. Sugars are the root of all evil. But, keep in mind this is the ideal diet for the average person, if you want to develop muscle mass, as opossed to tone, then the protien heavy diet will help. To lose weight... cardio workouts!!!! Run, jog, bike, stair steppers..whatever it takes to increase heart rate. But mix it up with light hand/foot weights every other day.. otherwise the body gets used to the work out, and it becomes less effective. I'm not one to preach, as I'm presently at my heaviest weight ever (5'8" and 175lbs), but I can still bench FAR more than I weigh! (Yes I know this isn't the gold standard for measurement of strenght, but it is above the norm). It is all about your goals, and staying active for life.. I've gotten lazy recently and it is surprising how quickly one can get "out-of-shape" Anyway, good luck!

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I am 6'2 and weighin in at all of 270.I have a lot of mass as it is :D

but not really tons of fat..... I guess I can say i've always been big boned, hehe.

I wouldn't mind losing probably 30lbs, maybe 40..I really don't eat bad.. I can't stand eating too much sugar as it is.. I do not like chocolate all that much.so I think my diet is ok... its just the lack of excersize which is keeping me from decreasing in size so to say :)

we recently got a nice pool.. but no damn pool heater! if the water was warmer... i'd be in there everyday.

as for running.. i think I would melt living in florida the humidity in the summertime is beyond evil.can dehydrate pretty quickly. um....uh... i am not making excuses.. really!

and if i could ever bench my weight... that would rule

-Dan

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palmerwmd wrote:The diet our bodies are designed for, is the one most prevalent in a hunter gatherer society, as our bodies have remained unchanged from those days.

A human in the wild, so to speak, would eat a lot of carbs and not too many proteins and fats.
A hunter/gatherer would eat meat and veggies, not bagels and pizza. Yes, veggies have carbs, but not as much as processed foods, breads, cakes, etc.

Of course if you're very active, you can eat what you want. I'm trying to find a good compromise eating plan where I can exercise 2-3 times a week and not have to become a triathelete.

There's really no such thing as a "diet", I guess. It's a permanent lifestyle change. If it's not permament, you get fat again.

Have cut way back on the alcohol and that's made a big difference in how I feel. (The blahs last 2-3 days now, not just the next morning.... uuuggghhh).

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just become a speed head that will make u lose weight.. haha

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Yes!! the Yay-o diet.. nose candy for all, that's the ticket.. but then you'll have that pesky heart failure thing to contend with! But hey, nothing reduces weight better than DEATH!!! cool

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yeah running has been brutal here in Charlotte, it's always humid i usually go really early or late evening when i run. Eating anything whenever is great though :D Just drink lots of water before you run and you'll be ok, or go on a treadmill indoors, that's a good alternative.

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greg_atlanta wrote:Anybody had success??

I'm leery of the all meat/cheese/eggs Atkins thing mainly because meat is full of hormones and antibiotics (esp. beef).
My wife has only eatten meats and salads for 2 months. Lost over 35 pounds. Atkins doesn't say not to eat carbs, just that everyone's body reacts differently to different amounts. You have to figure out how much you can eat after getting to your ideal weight and then experimenting on how many carbs you can do to keep it there. I have a difficult time cutting carbs myself. I am a glutton for rice, potatoes and breads. As for my wife, after 2 months of cutting them she has no urge to eat them anymore.

Lon

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Yes, I'm festively plump as well. 6'4" 265.

I've heard many ppl lose weight on the Atkins diet without any problems. I tried it and discovered I enjoy bread, pasta, and potatoes too much.

I've lost about 25 lbs in the last couple years by just being more active. I actually have lost a lot of fat, but my wieght is still up because of the muscle wieghs more.

I don't run(humidity and heat combined with asthma = die) but I do lift and do other things depending on the season(I ski, snowboard, tennis, etc.).

There are many ways to lose weight, just pick one and stick with it. I even lost some weight by not drink soft drinks for about a year--almost all water, natural juices, and an occasional lemonade/sweet tea.

good luck

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I'll go ahead and second that the atkins diet works. For the last two years, I had serious weight problems. I'm 5'8" and weighed in at 219 lbs. which is A LOT for anyone my height and it hovered around there for a few months. Exercised help some as I was able to get my weight down to 210. I've been on a low-carb diet for 2 months and now weigh 183. My cholesterol level is at its lowest and I feel like I'm in the best shape of my life. Along with the exercise and being smart with what I eat, I have the stamina to run for miles and shoot hoops for hours, something that would've been impossible in the past.

I think the reason why your friend passed out is because if vitamin deficiency. It's pretty common for someone to pass out because they're not getting ENOUGH carbs or have severe cramps because of the lack of calcium, potassium and some other nutrients. I planned out my diet so that I include some vegetables in my diet, fruit salad in the morning and a bowl of salad at night to cover all the bases. Remember, lowcarb diets does not mean eating a diet thats VOID of carbs at all, it's about knowing how much carbs your body needs daily and not exceeding it. This varies with individuals. It also doesnt mean to eat strictly meat, I know many people who are vegeterians who are on low-carb diets.

I know a guy at the gym (6' tall, 218 lbs.) that used to weigh 260 and was all fat. Lost all that weight with a lowcarb diet.

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speaking of benching, my max is 265lbs. (80 lbs. more than my weight, not bad) :D

sorry, just had to brag.

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Hmmm... seems the only successful alternative to cutting back on carbs is to exercise A LOT.

Anybody tried medicines or supplements to help? One book I read suggested probiotic digestive aids (acidophilus, like what's in yogurt) and L-glutamine (helps in protein synthesis?).

(I'm generally leery of the whole vitamin & supplement industry since they can claim anything they want and set the dosage with increased sales in mind.)

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biggie wrote:I've heard many ppl lose weight on the Atkins diet without any problems. I tried it and discovered I enjoy bread, pasta, and potatoes too much.
Yep, I love pasta too, but I'd go on streaks where I ate it every day, or every other day.

I've read (Dr. Andrew Weil) that cooking pasta al dente (somewhat firm) makes it more "fibrous" and doesn't flood your system with insulin like white bread and sugar. Also, everyone seems to agree that olive oil is good and that the monounsatured fat clings to the satured fat and actually cleans your blood.

Waxy potatoes (red, white, yukon) are supposed to be better than starchy baking potatoes.

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Sopdadope wrote:speaking of benching, my max is 265lbs. (80 lbs. more than my weight, not bad) :D

sorry, just had to brag.
Well, than I'll brag also! In my best physical shape I was 160-165 and could bench 250 several times (not enough to work out with, but enough to prove myself) I'm lucky, I have a small frame, and was blessed with the genetic ability to develop muscle mass. Hence, (like I said) this isn't a good measure of one's well being or overall strength. It is just that most people can't do it because upperbody strength is usually more evenly matched to overall body strucure. People that can lift more than they weigh, have disproportionate upperbody development, but hey, the chicks dig it!

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hey when i was 15 i maxed out at 190 weighin 140 and i wasn't disproportianate, and i can run 10 miles :D. Haven't worked out in a few months, strength goes down pretty quickly :mad:

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maineimport wrote:
Well, than I'll brag also! In my best physical shape I was 160-165 and could bench 250 several times development, but hey, the chicks dig it!
You da man!!

Hey guess what? I lost 8 pounds since last week! Another 9 pounds and I'm all set. By the way, it's true that different bodies react to different amounts of carbs, it seems as though 98grams is my daily max.

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good job, that's pretty impressive.

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I dunno, maybe I'm just weird but I like to exercise. It makes me happy to see toned muscles, and when you do that it almost doesn't matter what you eat, you burn it all right back off. The major problem is that no one does anything....I think a majorityo fo this diets are BOUND to work because you are eating less food, and so lon gas you maintain the same activity your body will naturaly burn itself down some. I dunno, thats just me.

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Sopdadope wrote:speaking of benching, my max is 265lbs. (80 lbs. more than my weight, not bad) :D

sorry, just had to brag.
Hmm, I can't brag about my benching so I'll brag about my leg press, on machine straight up: almost 900 lbs, 3 repetitions.:D

(afterwards I feel like throwing up):drooling

Fred...:)

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There's a guy who can do over a thousand pounds on the leg press. Per size, he's probably the strongest guy I know. 6'1, 218 lbs. but benches a max of 450, cleans 440something. He's also a black belt in jeet kune do. The last time a guy messed with him, he ended in a hospital. One tough bastard indeed.

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I can offer a good exercise that is fun besides running. I found Cycling to be a fun pastime and it will burn the fat off just like running because you often cycle alot longer and more frequently than running. It is a good aerobic exercise as well. They key to burning fat is to increase your metabolism naturally and maintain it there with constant aerobic exercise paired with a light weight training program. Thats as easy as doing something aerobic like dancing, cycling, running, swimming, or anything else you can think of at least 3 times a week. Wake up a bit earlier and take a light jog around the block, doesnt have to be a mile. I guarantee you will feel better the whole day and you will sleep better. Screw all this diet pill crap ... get out there and actually do it. When I visited Germany I lost 25 lbs in 3 weeks. I ate every other hour and never was it healthy, sausage, beer, chinease, more beer, cokes, pizza (alot of it), burgers, Schlotzskys (OMG I seriously thought I was smoking something when I saw it... Checkpoint Charley in Berlin right across the checkpoint into the former East Berlin right off to the left). All I did was constant walking with a cycling tour of the alps (I dont see how lance does it). Granted im 17 and still have a high metabolism I still burned it off very quickly with a far from healthy diet.

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i have a friend who is going on a carb diet, but his is diferent.he doesnt eat ANY carbs, at allhe lost about half of his weight in no time at all, but he isnt healthy in the least....

bad idea just to lose weight.....

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I don't have to go on Diets.I'm 5'8" and top off @ 145.Stay away from the diets that promise you to lose weight with NO WORK.Eat balanced meals and exercise regularly.Momma always said it wasn't a sin to get up from the table 'a little' hungry!! Good Luck!!:thumbup :rockon :Werd :Werd


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