looking to replace my 2 subs for one(whats good?)

[s14tan]

Ok, so when I got my car It came with a circuit city sound system.I'm looking to replace the two 12s that came in the car with only one 12 so I can have some trunk space and gain some more bass.It came with a kenwood 650watt amp which I think is really bs but not sure.

So what are your suggestions?I'm looking for something that would sound like two 12s with out actually having two.... (if that makes any sense at all)you can say I'm on kind of a budget. (lets say $150-200)

This is what it came with......

[the converted]

What's the model number on the amp? Not knowing I'd guess that its a real 300w or so. In that power range I'd say JL 12w3 would probably be your best bet. I don't think you'll be able to get the same output as the 2 12's but it will sure as hell be cleaner.

[Looneybomber]

You want half the drivers, smaller enclosure and you want more bass? Oh and better yet, you don't want to spend outrageous amounts of money? Can't be done.

Let's talk simple physics.Sound is created by compression/decompression of air. To make a lot of sound, you need to compress a lot of air. Going from 2, 12's to 1, 12 means you have half the surface area available to compress air. To compensate for half of the surface area, you now need twice the throw (the distance the speaker moves in and out of the box) 1/2 * 2 = 1So you're now looking for a more capable subwoofer to give you the same performance = It's going to cost more.

You also want a smaller box which means your subwoofer will be less efficient, so you now need more power to give you the same amount of bass as you had with a bigger box = It's going to cost more.

You also want even more bass than you had before = It's going to cost twice as much.

So let's do the math

It's going to cost more+It's going to cost more+It's going to cost twice as much=---------------------------Lot's of money because you're going to need an expensive sub, expensive amp and an upgraded altenator to fully power your expensive amp.

Scenario A: You can put a bigger box in your trunk. Cost for a noticeable amount of more bass ~150

Scenario B: You can have a box half the size of what you have now. Cost for a noticeable amount of more bass ~1200-1400 using nothing short of a JL W7 driver.

Oh did I mention I don't like JL because they have a horrible performance/cost ratio. However, big bass in a small box screams W7.

[s14tan]

Thanks guys!well that Idea just went to hell lol.

what amp and sub combo do you recommend while maintaining a reasonable price I might just say f*** it and put my groceries in the back seat instead.Thanks

[Looneybomber]

If at all possible, just leave what you have and put groceries in the backseat. Otherwise, your next option is to make a baffle board for your rear deck, mount your subs onto that baffle board and cut the hard foam out of your rear deck where the subs are. Don't cut off the carpeting unless you plan on covering the hole with something else.

It's called infinite baffle and uses your trunk as the enclosure, however your trunk has to be sealed off from the cab, so you may need to place another precisely cut board between the trunk and rear seats.

[s14tan]

If at all possible, just leave what you have and put groceries in the backseat. Otherwise, your next option is to make a baffle board for your rear deck, mount your subs onto that baffle board and cut the hard foam out of your rear deck where the subs are. Don't cut off the carpeting unless you plan on covering the hole with something else.

It's called infinite baffle and uses your trunk as the enclosure, however your trunk has to be sealed off from the cab, so you may need to place another precisely cut board between the trunk and rear seats.

Pics of this set up?(for reference)

[Slipstream]

I have a decent set-up that I used in my s14 and gave great bass for the price. I'm running a JL12w3 with a Sony Xplod xm-1002hx bridged. I'm selling it right now to finish my sr build if you're interested.

[Looneybomber]

Pics of this set up?(for reference)

Search google.Use keywords: Car, Sub, Subwoofer, Infinite Baffle, and/or Free Air.Using "Car infinite baffle" under the pics tab of google this was on the first page...http://sounddomain.cardomainwi...ation

If you need more information, google/yahoo it.

[coolhand]

Try Kicker or MTX. They have good woofers for the money. They will not give you the bass equivalent of two 12s by good enough.

[s14tan]

I have a decent set-up that I used in my s14 and gave great bass for the price. I'm running a JL12w3 with a Sony Xplod xm-1002hx bridged. I'm selling it right now to finish my sr build if you're interested.

You have email.

Search google.Use keywords: Car, Sub, Subwoofer, Infinite Baffle, and/or Free Air.Using "Car infinite baffle" under the pics tab of google this was on the first page...http://sounddomain.cardomainwi...ation

Thanks bro.

I heard a single JL 12W7 today and It was awesome...

sounded like this but clearer.

If you need more information, google/yahoo it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8Q6f9teSs