looking to go ka-t

[hob]

found a inexpensive kit on ebay $725 buy it now......................how can that be and is it a total waist of money. all the other kits I have seen are $2k on up. Anyone know anything about this?? thanks

[S14tat]

a link with a pic of a kit would be nice. we can't answer questions with no information what so ever. its like we have to guess whats your exact nationality from just your sn. all i know is that your human, but nothing else.

[okis14]

You get what you pay for.

[Structure240sx]

its most likely a kit that incudes maifold and turbo. many more parts are needed to make it work

[AustinSilvia]

like structure said it is probably incomplete... although if it comes with a wastegate, turbo, bov, and manifold with gasketsa dn hardware that's not a bad price... i paid about $800 for all that above. most $2k kits come with fuel controls, or something to adjust fuel, whether fmu, or piggy back, or injectors, or a combination or whatever. if you found a complete kit for less than a grand don't tel anyone and buy it immediately. it's most likely a scam if it is what i just mentioned.

[hob]

ok heres the link to the item on ebay (hope I don't piss anyone off by linking something)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

looks like it comes with turbo, bov, manifold and wastegatesome cables and gaskets. Looked to me like to good to be true, prob. not a lot of boost but I plan on staying w/ stock internals for now. Kick around car just want it to be a little fun to drive.

[Structure240sx]

thats exactly what i thought it was. first off that manifold in the pic is for an SR not a KA. while those parts should work fine they are copies of the name brands

[ka24det-power]

I am using that SS mani, although the one inthe pic for and SR my KA mani looks identical. Make sure you weld a support bracket on the downpipe so the manifold doesn't crack.

[nissanfanatic]

I wouldn't buy it. Seems like knock off stuff. BTW it says in the link that the manifold is for a CA18.

[AustinSilvia]

you know if you're on a budget and not going to run high psi and all that then i'd say do it. if the manifold cracks, then get another one. you'll still end up paying less than a name brand kit. of course this kit is not complete but getting the rest of what's needed isn't very hard. it seems that people tend to reccommend against anything that doesn't have a name brand stamp of approval. it seems weird to me that people think they are getting a better product because they pay more money. an oil change is an oil change, whether it costs $50 or $20 (or less when you do it yourself). the fact is that any setup can have problems. for instance: chris may's 1995 240sx. made it to magazines and other things. probably one of the nicest 240sx's that ever lived. he built the engine with all name brand parts, had a reputable shop do all the labor (including dyno tuning, balancing and rebuilding, porting and polishing the head, among other things), and had just about anything a ka-t lover would dream of having for his car. he probably dumped around $12-15K into that engine alone. a few months later what happened? the engine died.

modifying your car is a gamble. with name brand parts it's a gamble. with "knock off " parts it's a gamble. as long as you pay attention to more important things, like fuel management, and don't overboost the engine, knock off setups can be just as good as name brand setups. but there is an element of luck and gamb|ing involved like i said. however, when you get to higher end applications (higher boost, more power, faster engine, things have to be more precise), then knock off stuff may not be the answer, but looking for high end power doesn't seem like what you're after, since you're asking about this kit.

look at what this kit is though. it's basically the parts that you don't have to spend a lot of money on. you CAN, but it's not 100% necessary to spend a lot of money on an expensive bov, or wastegate or turbo. when you look at fuel managment stick to what is known as good stuff. the worst i have heard about ssautochrome stuff is that the manifold cracks in some cases. in other cases everything held up fine. it's a gamble, like i said, but of course i would also say the gamb|ing factor does increase when you get "knock off" parts. for $800 i think it's worth the gamble.

so i guess what i'm saying is this: budget setups are budget setups. if you are on a budget then your setup will probably look something like the link you posted. if not then go buy name brand parts. in any case, though, do something and have fun.

i apologize for the overuse of the word gamble.

[nissanfanatic]

I payed about $800 for my Revhard manifold and a Garrett T04B off Ebay.

[crzycav86]

you know if you're on a budget and not going to run high psi and all that then i'd say do it. if the manifold cracks, then get another one. you'll still end up paying less than a name brand kit. of course this kit is not complete but getting the rest of what's needed isn't very hard. it seems that people tend to reccommend against anything that doesn't have a name brand stamp of approval. it seems weird to me that people think they are getting a better product because they pay more money. an oil change is an oil change, whether it costs $50 or $20 (or less when you do it yourself). the fact is that any setup can have problems. for instance: chris may's 1995 240sx. made it to magazines and other things. probably one of the nicest 240sx's that ever lived. he built the engine with all name brand parts, had a reputable shop do all the labor (including dyno tuning, balancing and rebuilding, porting and polishing the head, among other things), and had just about anything a ka-t lover would dream of having for his car. he probably dumped around $12-15K into that engine alone. a few months later what happened? the engine died.

modifying your car is a gamble. with name brand parts it's a gamble. with "knock off " parts it's a gamble. as long as you pay attention to more important things, like fuel management, and don't overboost the engine, knock off setups can be just as good as name brand setups. but there is an element of luck and gamb|ing involved like i said. however, when you get to higher end applications (higher boost, more power, faster engine, things have to be more precise), then knock off stuff may not be the answer, but looking for high end power doesn't seem like what you're after, since you're asking about this kit.

look at what this kit is though. it's basically the parts that you don't have to spend a lot of money on. you CAN, but it's not 100% necessary to spend a lot of money on an expensive bov, or wastegate or turbo. when you look at fuel managment stick to what is known as good stuff. the worst i have heard about ssautochrome stuff is that the manifold cracks in some cases. in other cases everything held up fine. it's a gamble, like i said, but of course i would also say the gamb|ing factor does increase when you get "knock off" parts. for $800 i think it's worth the gamble.

so i guess what i'm saying is this: budget setups are budget setups. if you are on a budget then your setup will probably look something like the link you posted. if not then go buy name brand parts. in any case, though, do something and have fun.

i apologize for the overuse of the word gamble.

Amen to that good sir.

The main idea of your post has been my number one concern in my ka-t project: Cheap doesn't mean it's crap. You may in fact get what you pay for, but the price isn't always directly proportional to the performance.

[2d-ink]

Well if you read carefully it said CA manifold Shown but you'll get a KA manifold. well I just order my kit today it'll come in a couple day and I'll let you guys know how good it is..

[hob]

thanks for all the advice. It looks like this kit may suit my needs. 2d-ink keep us all updated on your progress. if you could also keep a photo log and parts list of what you needed that would be great.

Also it looks like AustinSilvia put this kit on you can see the comments under Turbo plan/questions might want to find out what he ran into.

[WDRacing]

I have that SSA manifold right here at my house. Its poorly made, but will function. However , it doesn't fit on my 95SE with ABS. The manifold made the turbine section hit the master cylinder. There are pics in the NICO Gallery.

WD