looking for wide wheels

[youngmoney]

like the title says im looking for wide wheels that would sit flush (or close to it) with the 50mm overfenders im ordering. i dont really mind using spacers. looking for something like 16x9 or 10. not looking for anything bigger than 17'' in diameter. nothing smaller than 8'' wide. the only wheels ive found that are close to the size that i want (17x9) are some xxr's. i like old school looking wheels wats,panasports etc but not really looking to pay 1500$ for a set of wheels. im too poor to care about knock offs. so if anyone knows any relatively cheap wheels preferably with a dish let me know. easy with the flaming e-thugs im just looking for some help

[youngmoney]

im thinking about getting rota d2's 17x8.5. what offset would be the best if i want them to sit flush with the 50mm overfenders? 20,25,34,45?

[simmode1]

I can only assume you are 4 lug. Your only cheap option are Rota RB's 17x9-13 and 17x9.5-19.

Running huge spacers will easily add $200+ to your setup. Don't do it.

[youngmoney]

where are you finding the rb's with those offsets? it didnt say anything about either of those on their site. forgot to mention i was 4 lug still. also the car will be lowered soon with megan racing coilovers.

[simmode1]

where are you finding the rb's with those offsets? it didnt say anything about either of those on their site.

I don't know where you're looking, but scroll all the way to the bottom:
http://www.rotawheels.com/wheels.asp?wheelid=34

http://www.racinglab.com/rota-rb-280z.html

I checked Rota's stock and availability... as of May 7th, the 17x9 and 17x9.5 are out of stock. But you may want to call Rota and ask when the next batch will be along...

[youngmoney]

DOH i meant rota d2's! ive always hated rb's. they just dont look right to me. thanks for the info though

[simmode1]

D2's will be really sunken with your overfenders. I don't even want to think about the size of the spacers you're gonna need to get 17x8.5+20 D2's flush will 50mm widebody aero. Your spacers are gonna cost almost as much as your wheels... :eek

If you don't like the RB's, then you're better off just saving your money for some negative offset SSR Professors or Work Meisters...

[youngmoney]

50mm is pretty damn big. i think im just going to with the 20 or 30mm now.

[Gabes13]

You don't need overfenders if your wheels are less than 10" wide and have + offsets.

[poshatch]

please return those overfenders you dont need them at all

there is a 4 lug section here you should look at its got all the info you could need plus rimtuck

[youngmoney]

im getting overfenders for 3 reasons. they look good,eventually i will have wide a** wheels,they would cover up all the dents in my quarters. for now though i think im just going to go with xxr 513's 16x8 0 offset.

[poshatch]

if you have over fenders and run those, your gonna have it look terrible,

unless your running a giant spacer on a 9.5 or wider or have a pretty good negative offset its not gonna look right

and 513 dont look right on a 240 seriously just go check out that 4 lug thread and rim tuck, if you come back and say 513's, there has been a huge error

[youngmoney]

im well aware of rimtuck. and ive looked at the 4 lug thread! 513's sit roughly a 1/2 inch out when the cars not slammed maybe more. 20mm is barely under an inch 30mm is just over. so with a 20mm spacer they should sit pretty damn close to perfectly.

[poshatch]

im well aware of rimtuck. and ive looked at the 4 lug thread! 513's sit roughly a 1/2 inch out when the cars not slammed maybe more. 20mm is barely under an inch 30mm is just over. so with a 20mm spacer they should sit pretty damn close to perfectly.

when you say not slammed you mean not cambered? because the wheel will stick out differently at any ride height depending on camber

idono if you realize this but 50mm over fenders is an additional 2"

try to follow this math:

stock is 6" wide at +40 offset, 6 / 2 = 3 x 25.4 (mm conversion) = 76.2 - 40 (calculating offset) = 36.2 mm outward from mounting point, standard is about 1.4"

this is what your doing

8" wide at 0 offset, but since your adding the 50mm over fenders its like sinking it in 50mm so its like adding 50mm to the offset (visally)

8 / 2 = 4 x 25.4 = 101.6 + 0 = 101.6 mm but factoring in the over fenders - 50 mm = 51.6 mm

51.6 - 36.2 = running a 15mm spacer on a stock wheel with stock body or running the 513s with 50mm over fender

seriously

[youngmoney]

i said i was going to get the 20 or 30 mm overfenders. ok look at this any-pics-of-xxr-513-s-t486165.html

the xxr's stick out, but with the overfenders they would probably be sunken in a bit. so ill get the spacers like i said and they should be flush. yes?

[poshatch]

i said i was going to get the 20 or 30 mm overfenders. ok look at this any-pics-of-xxr-513-s-t486165.html

the xxr's stick out, but with the overfenders they would probably be sunken in a bit. so ill get the spacers like i said and they should be flush. yes?

lol well your first post said 50mm so yeah i went with that

20mm would be the best bet

but im going to be real with you right now

i own xxr 002, they are also 16x8 +0 offset (same as yours) and i run a 7mm spacer to clear my brakes on stock body (rolled fenders slight pull) with 205 45 on them lowered all hte way without drooping on tein HE coilovers and it dosnt look right even with stock body

lets say your running the 20mm over fenders, a 25mm spacer will make it close to what i run on a stock body, if you are DEAD SET on this combo

do this: your 20mm over fenders, 30mm spacers, 195 50 or 205 50 most likely, could be wrong about those, camber as necisary (around -2.5)

[youngmoney]

im not dead set on the wheels i just cant seem to find any relatively cheap wheels that will sit flush with the overfenders. any suggestions? thanks for the help btw. at first i thought you were just being a d!ck...

[poshatch]

well i appologize if i came off like a d!ck i dont mean to

i bought the 002s cause they were cheap and decent hahaha, idono why i didnt mention this before, but im on rimtuck! haha white hatch at the bottom of page 1 when looking at s13's i think, that might help as a refference but if you like that sort of style maybe with rota rbs?

17x9 - 13 or 17x9.5 - 19 would sit pretty well with them over fenders

[youngmoney]

i realize that the rb's look nearly identical to the 513's but i hate them! not sure why really. its hard to find cheap wide wheels that look decent

[youngmoney]

even though ill probably regret it and beat myself up about it everyday im considering getting the rb's 17x9.5's lol. you're sure once the cars lowered and has a degree or two of negative camber they would sit flush?

[poshatch]

even though ill probably regret it and beat myself up about it everyday im considering getting the rb's 17x9.5's lol. you're sure once the cars lowered and has a degree or two of negative camber they would sit flush?

yeah dude cheap wide wheels for 4 lug are really rare, used would probably be the best bet on cheap but yeah not everybody has wide wheels that will fit

well here are the specs on that wheel on what looks to be stock body

http://www.rimtuck.com/setup.php?id=26

you probably cant run those wheels in the front without wide fenders so you would have to stagger them like this person did, notice how pulled the fenders are, with over fenders it would look like they are sitting on stock body but pretty flush i think with 30mm over fenders

i dont own, nor have had any extended conversation with somebody who has wide body so i would wait for somebody who has it to chime in

[simmode1]

even though ill probably regret it and beat myself up about it everyday im considering getting the rb's 17x9.5's lol.

The RB's aren't so bad looking...


I don't really like the pull here, but some fender flares or over fenders would look pretty good instead, IMO. But I do agree that the RB's old school appeal clashes somewhat with the S13's styling. Just get your's with dark spokes so its not as noticeable...

[youngmoney]

i saved that pic of the blue coupe last night^. i dont know if i mentioned it but im getting the widebody front fenders too. im trying to find the fenders without the gay slot in the side. so it all should be flush and ill be happy

[poshatch]

those sorta look like molded flares and yea the old sch0ol style on 17's make it look sorta weird on the s13, however i like classic as well (like my 15s haha) and dished like the rbs, i agree with the darker color though

(i was shocked when i found out about the watanabes gr8, xxr 002, i thought that style could only be in 16 max, 17x9.5, sickkkkk)

its very hard to find the widebody fronts without that stupid vent thing, at least i dont really ever see any haha it would look much beter without it IMO

plus you cant argue with proper fitment, the rb's come pretty sick, other options as well in the 17" range that are decent could work with spacers but that adds you know a good like 150 bucks to the equation for good ones. might as well start off with a negative offset on some 9.5s hahaha

[Gabes13]

Chaser has unvented front fenders.

[youngmoney]

thanks poshatch,panda. i was also thinking about a dark color for the rb's. now im kind of putting off buying wheels/widebody kit for a while. even though it will all be tasteful i feel like a ricer buying all this stuff before i do anything to the motor. im getting a ka from my brother soon so im just going to put all my money towards turbo'ing it. i dont think this thread was in vain because i learned some things. anyway thanks again for the info guys!

[simmode1]

Chaser has unvented front fenders.

DID. NOT. KNOW. THAT. Any idea how the fitment is? I am EXTREMELY interested. Specifically interested in 20mm ventless fenders...

even though it will all be tasteful i feel like a ricer buying all this stuff before i do anything to the motor

IMO, there's tons you should do before turboing your motor. Upgrading your suspension, brakes, wheels and tires before adding more power isn't ricey. It's a safety precaution, homie. This old a$$ car desparately needs a stiffer suspension/chassis, stronger brakes and wider/grippier tires to safely handle any big increases in power. Ppl who tell you to mod your motor first before these things are the true ricers and they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

[poshatch]

Chaser has unvented front fenders.

DID. NOT. KNOW. THAT. Any idea how the fitment is? I am EXTREMELY interested. Specifically interested in 20mm ventless fenders...

even though it will all be tasteful i feel like a ricer buying all this stuff before i do anything to the motor

IMO, there's tons you should do before turboing your motor. Upgrading your suspension, brakes, wheels and tires before adding more power isn't ricey. It's a safety precaution, homie. This old a$$ car desparately needs a stiffer suspension/chassis, stronger brakes and wider/grippier tires to safely handle any big increases in power. Ppl who tell you to mod your motor first before these things are the true ricers and they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

basically

unless your going for drag the engine is the first and last thing, i say first because from day 1 that you pick up your 240 you need to make it reliable and always perform, no modding just making it function perfectly, there is no substitiution for a well maintained engine, next you should focus on the suspension if you drifting autox etc.. the suspension is so often overlooked and its very important to making the car handle predictably like you need it to, in addition to replacing those old bushings and or replacing with pillowball and adjustability, its not the part thats important its the adjustability, the correct alignment is really important and is really noticible when driving. braking is also important cause you dont wanna go fast and not stop haha that should be with or even before susupension. wheels and grip before turbo

IMO people shouldnt upgrade there engine when driving until they know how to drive there underpowered car because there is plenty of drivers who only get 130-150 lbs to the wheel who destroy pretty hard, and in the end your a better driver for it

[Gabes13]

DID. NOT. KNOW. THAT. Any idea how the fitment is? I am EXTREMELY interested. Specifically interested in 20mm ventless fenders....

Idk their sizes, but it's from their blister kit so they're probably retardedly wide. I think they're beveled towards the the bottom too. I don't remember.

[simmode1]

Oh ok... yeah, I looked at their blister kit. It's like 50mm front and 70mm rears. Too aggressive for me.

Guess I'll just have to wait until Extreme Dimensions gets their stuff fitting right.