Looking for the right offset......I s#@k at this!

[240life]

I am installing over fenders on my car 40mm in the front and 50mm in the rear. I don't want to spend to much time d!ck with offsetts..any one running this on there car that could give info into what offset looks decent? Or even suggestions on moderatly priced wheels. Your time and input on this thread is appreciated.Oh yeah it is a 1989 coupe.

V/r 240life

[homeslicej2]

First, this is why we have a wheel and tire sub-forum. You should've posted there. Need more info such as how much negative camber are you wanting to run, what is "looks decent" to you? Flush, slighty sunk, sticking out?

[White Comet]

click here to avoid total failure

[240life]

Sorry never noticed a wheel and tire forum.. Flush or just a little inside the wheel well is fine. I haven't really considered camber as i haven't really done anything special to the suspension other than megan springs and kyb struts. The tire and wheel packages i am looking at are a 17x7.5 w 215/4/17 tires...sorry i fail
Modified by 240life at 8:55 AM 2/29/2008

[Encryptshun]

The tire and wheel packages i am looking at are a 17x7 w 215/4/17 tires...sorry i fail

17 x 7? Battleship.

[D3stro]

Sorry never noticed a wheel and tire forum.. Flush or just a little inside the wheel well is fine. I haven't really considered camber as i haven't really done anything special to the suspension other than megan springs and kyb struts. The tire and wheel packages i am looking at are a 17x7 w 215/4/17 tires...sorry i fail

It's for a rwd car, not a fwd. 17x7 gonna sucks totally.Hey, you're getting over fenders!You'll need something wider to fill the extra space. Get some 17''x9'' at least or even 18''. Go big or go home.

[240life]

Thanks that is what i was looking for I am pretty new to selecting wheels and tires outside of a factory set up...Go big or go home is rule #2 #1 is you can't stop the bigness...in my shop we gots the 7 laws of bigness it is pretty funny thankyou

[Encryptshun]

First off, thank you for fighting to protect our freedoms.

Go read the wheel and tire forum and the universe will open itself up to you. It helps if you like math, though....

Oh, one more thing. If you haven't yet purchased the overfenders you were talking about, please reconsider. You can get an awesome look on your car by widening the stance and doing a slight pull of your stock fenders.

[ThuG LyFe]

dang with 40mm overfenders u can prob. run some 17x9.5 up front and maybe 17x10.5 in the back or maybe 18's like that in low offset like around 10. otherwise kinda pointless i'd say.

[240life]

Your welome it's my job..and second i haven't got them yet, but my stock front is getting completly changed i am trying to find the same front fenders in a less dramatic stance i was hopeing to stay around 17x9 and not look totally ghey...and possibly only doing 30mm front and back

[Encryptshun]

Well, when I bought my car it already had molded 20mm fronts and 50mm rears. My wheel choice was a set of Enkei RPF1s, 17 x 9.5 +15 front and 17 x 10.5 +17 rears. They will be a teeny bit (5mm front, 10mm rear) sunk so I will need spacers.

[240life]

I think i decided on a set of wheels, first iam going to go with a more subtle over fender..Motegi touge B 17x9+10 in the front and 18x10+15rear with 215/45 rubber still might need spacers but we will see.thanks for all of you guys insight

[EazyBreazy]

lol 40 mil over fenders in the front mean run 17/18x10, 50 mil over in the rear means run 17/18x12, if your gonna go through all that trouble to put huge fenders on your car do your car justice by putting as much wheel/tire as possible underneath them. you can fit 17x9+15 under stock front and rear fenders on an s13 with proper fender rolling/pulling if im not mistaken, go ahead and add 2-3 inches of clearance and the wheels should follow suit and be 2 to 3 inches wider imo

[240life]

lol 40 mil over fenders in the front mean run 17/18x10, 50 mil over in the rear means run 17/18x12, if your gonna go through all that trouble to put huge fenders on your car do your car justice by putting as much wheel/tire as possible underneath them. you can fit 17x9+15 under stock front and rear fenders on an s13 with proper fender rolling/pulling if im not mistaken, go ahead and add 2-3 inches of clearance and the wheels should follow suit and be 2 to 3 inches wider imo

that is why i decided to go a whole lot smaller on the over fenders i was pondering the idea of the larger ones untill i realized how massive that was

[EazyBreazy]

the real thing is what do you plan on doing with the car, why must you have over fenders, is there fender damage on the rear quarter panels that cannot be repaired in a cost effective manner. what are your goals for the car, are you going to track it, or just drive it on the streets, is it going to be a show car, drift car, all of this stuff should be taken into consideration.

Remember fiberglass does not do well when hit, ie road debris and stuff like that will generally cause damage to not just the paint, but the fiberglass as well, it is cheaper to replace, but less durable that the metal. If for your goals you can run stock fenders, do so and put as much wheel and tire under them as you can, it will be cheaper in the long run. Remember that individuality is somewhat overrated, and sometimes its better to do the minimum to improve your car than go balls to the wall with exterior modifications.

If you dont have the need for 10/11 inch wide rear tires because you will not be seeing any track time, or do not have enough power to even break a 9 inch wide tire loose, then you will wind up spending money on modifications you dont need as opposed to spending money on modifications that would be alot more beneficial to you

[240life]

I was considering over fenders for the rear due to the fact that i had repaired with body filler a spot near the tire well due to previous owners wife bacing into a tree. The damage wasn't to bad but i don't own a stud gun to pull it and couldn't reach it with any tools to repair it any other way so i don't think i can roll them nicely didn't really consider the problem with the debris on the road and was one of those things on my wants more than needs list I plan on building this car as a weekend driver nice weather only. No track abuse just show with some go to give me something to do over the summer with my wife. Haven't ordered the over fenders as of yet and will now probably not considering i just bought a welder.. maybe just a good sheet metal repair and a good set of tires under stock fenders thanks for your opinion evryones is taken into serious consideration as this is one of my first top to bottom builds

[adrianfromthecastle]

Sorry never noticed a wheel and tire forum..

don't worry I moved it.

[240life]

thanks

[EazyBreazy]

you say you just bought a welder, get some sheet metal scraps and learn to weld it well, then find a donor car in a junkyard with the panel you need in good shape, cut it out, weld it in, if you do high quality work you will need minimal bondo to finish and this can be applied after you roll/pull the fenders. then bask in the glory that you fixed it all by yourself.

one of the things myself and many of the other members will say is that function > form, but i understand your wanting a nice looking ride. a stock fendered car with the right wheels in the right size lowered to the right place will in many peoples eyes, look alot cleaner than a wide body kit because in general the quality of the oem pannels is alot higher than that of most wide body panels. good luck to you though man, enjoy the new welder, find out what you can and cannot do with it, and start making yourself cool stuff

[240life]

Yeah i got 3 more months till i can get any practice, but if i s*** at welding I will keep the beatification to the pro's or one of my more experienced buddies till i get better, my s**** is in the USA and i'm in the sand box

[EazyBreazy]

marine or army, i was in the USMC. be safe over there. Welding is like any metal working art, the more you do it, practice, the better you will be at it. with enough practice you can be as good or better than the "Pro's" at the local body shops used by insurance companies. The places that specialize in custom work generally have alot higher standards/quality of work

[240life]

Boots on the ground NAVY...maybe i will be good I got a great teacher in my step dad he really knows his welding, he doesn't work on cars though only high purity gas piping