Looking for something...

[TheClevelandSound]

Ok i have some money now so i can start modding....not alot of money...but a decent amount. My budget is about $200 at the most.

I am looking for an exhaust for the Versa or a cold air intake.

I am already looking at these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...7.m29

http://www.autoanything.com/ex....aspx

Suggestions are welcome.

RK

[WDRacing]

Your best bet is to buy a cat back system for the exhaust. That means from the catalytic converter back you'll have all new piping and the muffler. It's more expensive, but it's the best option. If you buy just the muffler, like the ones you linked above, you'll need to have those installed at a muffler shop. Which in itself isn't that expensive, but you're going to want them to use new 2.5" pipe from the cat back anyway. Or else the new muffler isn't going to improve the flow as much as it could. Call around to some local shops and ask how much they charge to weld up a new exhaust from the cat back if you provide the muffler. Then compare the price to a pre fabbed cat back system.

As far as the CAI goes, you can definitely get that done for cheaper. Your best bet is to find a cheap Honda intake setup on EBay and then modify that to fit. Just make sure you're actually building a CAI. Just installing a pod filter and sucking in under hood air is worse then retaining the stock setup. I could go on to explain this in more depth if you need.

Hope this starts you off...

WD

[Great White Versa]

the AEM cold air intake at autoanything will end up being just under $200 after searching for a coupon code for $25 off.

Also, that first that you posted is to a muffler that looks exactly like the muffler that fastlyfe used on his exhaust. On his car, and with the 2.25" piping, it sounds great.

[TheClevelandSound]

Thanks guys...well i am no mechanic so alot of that confused me...one of the mods before on here said that i have a 2 inch on my versa so i need something to fit that or else it wont work...i have no idea what i am doing as u can tell.

[Great White Versa]

Thanks guys...well i am no mechanic so alot of that confused me...one of the mods before on here said that i have a 2 inch on my versa so i need something to fit that or else it wont work...i have no idea what i am doing as u can tell.

WD was referring to the fact that the stock exhaust (after the cat) has a pipe, a resonator, more piping, and then the muffler. Both the resonator and the muffler work together to reduce exhaust noise. The problem is that they are not designed for efficient air flow. When people put in a cat-back exhaust they remove the resonator, thereby reducing much of the resistance on the exhaust gasses. Some people call it 'straight piping' because it is one continuous pipe. This continuity allows for the exhaust gasses to flow much more smoothly and also in a much greater volume.

If you only change the muffler you will not get the results that, we believe, you are looking for. You need more air volume to fill the sound that the new muffler will make. It would be like trying to play a tuba with a french horn mouthpiece. It just won't sound very good.

[TheClevelandSound]

Ah i get it now...i can relate to music!

[Ever Victorious]

Can't call your exhaust system a "straight pipe" if it still has a muffler in it... unless the muffler has an electric bypass, like a Warlock.

If you're not good at fabbing, get the AEM intake. The amount of time and headache you save by not having to figure it out for yourself would be worth the money... take it from a guy who has screwed up a few intakes before.

As far as an exhaust system goes... yes, get a full cat-back system. Also be aware that your car WILL be louder than before, and depending on the diameter of the pipe, how it is bent, and what equipment you use in the system, it MAY also pick up a very bad droning noise while cruising (take this from a guy who has also screwed up a cat-back exhaust before. NEVER use a Flowmaster on anything with less than 8 cylinders...)

If you can't afford the $600 or so that the AEM catback will cost when it comes out, you need to do research and get creative. For instance, I found out on my SUCCESSFUL exhaust on a previous car that using a cherry bomb to replace the resonator, rather than removing it from the system entirely, worked well to eat high-pitched noise and reduce droning.

[TheClevelandSound]

ah....which produces more sound and which produces more HP

the exhaust or the CAI?

[WDRacing]

EV is correct about the noise being annoying at times. When I first installed the exhaust on my 240 I thought it was SWEEEEET sounding. But driving it for any length of time is a total pita. However, if you get the right kind it will purr at partial throttle and really come alive when you floor it.

You can also get a silencer for ANY muffler. I even started using mine, which is out of charecter since I like loud and fast.

[Ever Victorious]

ah....which produces more sound and which produces more HP

the exhaust or the CAI?

More sound would undoubtedly be the exhaust. It changes the sound of your car at all times... light throttle, WOT, idle, cruise, and coast will all sound quite different. the CAI only increases noise minimally at light throttle and moderately at WOT. it does NOT increase noise at idle, cruise, or coast.

More power depends on the system... but the CAI and exhaust are symbiotic systems. They will each give you more power, but COMBINED they will give you a sliver more than each individually. You will gradually get more power as you improve more related systems.

As far as getting the car to breathe better (which is what a CAI and exhaust do), you will get the best results from adding a CAI, an exhaust, headers, big bore throttle body (may not be possible with the DBW system?), and improved/reprogrammed ECU.

Basically, pick a system, upgrade it, then have a plan to save up for and move onto the next system.

[TheClevelandSound]

great advice! Thanks EV

[gtrisfun]

for the intake, i'd be more inclined to stick with aem or injen because they're more often designed to fit better and accept either the o2 or MAF sensor as required. knew some guys who went the cheap ebay intake (for sentra application) and it ended up being more trouble as they had to install bungs to accept the sensors. same thing with headers.

also for anyone who is running an intake: did the SES light come on, and how long until it went away / does it reoccur?

[Great White Versa]

also for anyone who is running an intake: did the SES light come on, and how long until it went away / does it reoccur?

I have the AEM and have not had any sensors go off. I installed it about 4k miles ago.