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[r32 gts-t]

I've had a R32 GTS-T for about 3 years now.

I got the car on a trade with only a bill of sale (I know, I know) but the car I traded with wasn't anything special. The car came from Canada and went through two owners in California before I got it. I drove it around for two of the three years with a dealer plate. [The RB20DET has one of the best exhaust notes] I did not renew my dealers license this year as my little side business selling cars was fun, but got too complicated and the cost of everything just couldn't keep up just doing this on the side.

So long story short I have a r32 gts-t with very little paperwork, in fact i'm not even sure the exact year of the car. The car is tucked away right now safely, but I'm going to try and sell it, as being in Cali, I see no real way of getting this car back on the road legitimately in this state. I've thought about looking into the whole 25yr import rule and declaring it as an 89 model year, but i have no idea at this time if that would even work in 2014.

The condition of the car is pretty much perfect, has about 72,000km on the odo, so based on this and the above I have three questions.

1. What is this realistically worth $5k - $10K ......$0?

2. How should I go about selling this?

3. What do I need to be careful for?


I appreciate any advice.

[Ozzie]

My understanding of getting a skyline road legal in the US, is that it is nigh on impossible.
Consider selling it as a track/race car, or you may have to part it out. (Not ideal, as it sounds like it is in really good condition, but you don't really have many options)

Maybe you can sell it in Canada?

[r32 gts-t]

Canada is one of my options. Will have to look into how to get the thing on eBay for Canada... craigslist will probably be easier. Appreciate the response!

[jbracy7]

What u have is a gray market skyline the dot and customs,are haveing a all out war on theses cars hold it for long a** possible,canada would be your best bet,if u must sell it,but I say keep it ,take it to shows/events as a Show car and display it easyiest way to keep it,really

[OutToWinPAHC]

I know another R32 in not as nice of condition but with more done to it and he also has no documentation on it and is asking 10K. However your best off trading it or trying to sell it as track use. Mautofied is a good place to sell

[Bigalow311]

Give me you chasis code and I'll tell you want year it is. There's no real way of making it a '89 model unless you have original paperwork. I'll PM you to discuss it further.

[r32 gts-t]

Bigalow,

Thank you for the PM, I'm too new on the boards to have access to reply to your PM. I really appreciate the information you gave me.

I'll get the chassis code tonight and post it.


It als looks like Mautofied will be a good place to post it for sale, I also thought about posting it here, but I'm not sure if people will boo it or not.


thank you to all for your helpful adivce thus far!

[OutToWinPAHC]

Oh and to clarify you did not import this after 25 years it still will need to have gone through customs using a listed RA

[r32 gts-t]

right, I thought soemtime during 2014 I could work around that by driving it across the northern border and back.....just throwing around ideas, not sure what would work, that is why I decided to sell it. I hate to see it go though, there are many things i like about the car, rear quarter windows have a slight curve, rear wiper, and about the best sounding exhaust I've heard. I'm ok with it though, maybe i'll pick up a well maintained R35 on the used market one day.

[r32 gts-t]

[Bigalow311]

^^
Congratulations, sir. You're an owner of a 1989 R32 (manufactured June 1989). You might as well keep it since it'll be federally exempt in a few years IN JUNE.

You'll need paperwork proving the year of the car, etc. I'll ask my PoCs in JP.

[r32 gts-t]

^^
Congratulations, sir. You're an owner of a 1989 R32 (manufactured June 1989). You might as well keep it since it'll be federally exempt in a few years IN JUNE.

You'll need paperwork proving the year of the car, etc. I'll ask my PoCs in JP.

Wow that was fast, amazing how you know this stuff!

Wonder how that would work in two years since the car is already here and didn't go through an official process, as I assume it was just driven across the border from Canada.

Off to go research 25 yr import rules.

Once again appreciate the helpful information!

[Gold Digger]

I don't know 100%, but I am pretty sure you're still going to have problems.

As far as I know, that 25 year rule works only on cars that are still in their respective home countries. Maybe Sean can give you the right info.

[Bigalow311]

I don't know 100%, but I am pretty sure you're still going to have problems.

As far as I know, that 25 year rule works only on cars that are still in their respective home countries. Maybe Sean can give you the right info.

Exactly. I'm surprised Sean hasn't chimed-in by now.

The car has to be completely stock, in it's original condition when using the 25-year rule. My PoC in JP told me, its possible to federalize it but the OP would have to talk to an RI state-side (obviously). The following document can be prepared for you from JP when your RI needs documentation:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxDXWr ... bVlsYVdlZw

[r32 gts-t]

I don't know 100%, but I am pretty sure you're still going to have problems.

As far as I know, that 25 year rule works only on cars that are still in their respective home countries. Maybe Sean can give you the right info.

Exactly. I'm surprised Sean hasn't chimed-in by now.

The car has to be completely stock, in it's original condition when using the 25-year rule. My PoC in JP told me, its possible to federalize it but the OP would have to talk to an RI state-side (obviously). The following document can be prepared for you from JP when your RI needs documentation:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxDXWr ... bVlsYVdlZw

Wow, amazing again! Not exactly sure what I am looking at but it looks like something I would need. I am very grateful for your help, I came to Nicoclub looking for help and have had my expectations increasingly exceeded, with every reply to this topic. I can't thank you enough, please relay my gratitude to your contacts in the East.

The car isn't exactly stock, though the modifications I would say are mild. From what I can tell it has a full stainless steel exhaust from the down pipe on back. HKS Mushroom style intake filter, HKS intercooler tubing and HKS intercooler upgrade. Being that it was a gts-t the previous owner/owners installed all the body work of an R32 GTR ( Hood, Grill, Bumpers, skirts, and wing.) I have some stock r32 none GTR wheels arriving Monday from a fellow Niccoclub member as the current wheels are from an 08' 350z that I had powder coated black. The suspension is stock as well as the brakes and that is all that looks or seems to be modded.

So it looks like I'm leaning towards keeping it now, as that is what I would ultimately like to do, although I still have my reservations as my chances of success are hard to gauge. I think I might give an RI in California a call and see what I can learn about how to get a 25yr or older car imported.

Thanks again!

[Bigalow311]

At least make sure it looks as original, cheap, used as possible. The agent will probably just see that it's 25 years and check everything off as good to go. I recommend you keep it and post up what the RI in Cali says about federalizing your R32.

[tyndago]

Exactly. I'm surprised Sean hasn't chimed-in by now.

Sometimes, I don't like to beat my head against the wall.

25 years old, would have to do an entry. Technically should be exported, but you could probably do it on paper with the right customs broker.

[Gold Digger]

If only we lived in a perfect world, right Sean?

You should start charging people for consultations. You'd make a killing just telling people what they need to hear. Whether they were to actually follow what you tell them would be a different story, though.

[tyndago]

If only we lived in a perfect world, right Sean?

You should start charging people for consultations. You'd make a killing just telling people what they need to hear. Whether they were to actually follow what you tell them would be a different story, though.

Didn't work for the Kaizo guys. I gave them a bit of advice, but chose to ignore it until it was too late for them.

Tried to give the SKOUSA guys advice, they didn't want the truth.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

[Gold Digger]

You are right there. But, you can always kick them in the nuts and watch the reaction and laugh...lol

If I decide to move back to the U.S. by, oh say, 2020, I'll be hitting you up for help on getting my R33 brought over. Scratch that. Will be offering to pay you to help me get it there.

[OutToWinPAHC]

I assume that will be easier seeing there will be no transfer of ownership?

[Gold Digger]

True...but I'll still need to know what exactly to do if/when I decide to do so. I only have to wait 8 more years.

[tyndago]

25 years old isn't too difficult. Like anything, you want to do it right. I started working with a friend on bringing in a Diesel Landcruiser last year. I can gladly help you import it legally, and make sure it ends up in your hands, with every feds happy.

[Gold Digger]

Excellent! Good to have someone who knows what they are doing on your side.

[raremotive]

Sean, I will definitely keep you on my contact list for future importing help for sure.

[tyndago]

Excellent! Good to have someone who knows what they are doing on your side.

Not a problem. I want to do some more 25 year old importing, just have to have enough people that want to do it. Customs, DMV,shipping companies etc can be a bit scary. If you do it wrong, you can still lose the car if you don't have all the right paperwork. Get it right and its a breeze.

[i wanaskyline]

Excellent! Good to have someone who knows what they are doing on your side.

Not a problem. I want to do some more 25 year old importing, just have to have enough people that want to do it. Customs, DMV,shipping companies etc can be a bit scary. If you do it wrong, you can still lose the car if you don't have all the right paperwork. Get it right and its a breeze.

Just a thought... could you post a step by step process on a new thread and get it pinned. It could go right under the "So you want a Skyline" thread. 2 more years and there will be a flood of folks trying to do this and I think it would be helpful.

[tyndago]

Just a thought... could you post a step by step process on a new thread and get it pinned. It could go right under the "So you want a Skyline" thread. 2 more years and there will be a flood of folks trying to do this and I think it would be helpful.

1) Contact me
2) Send me money
3) Enjoy car

[MetalGearKyle]

then that's what we'll all have to do, sorry to bump a year old thread back to the top though.

[tyndago]

Nothing car related is ever "easy", but not as difficult would be a better answer.

Biggest thing is making sure you have all your paperwork in order prior to the car being on a ship. Now with the current ISF filing requirements, you just about have to have a customs broker to avoid any penalties. http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/trade/cargo_ ... ty_filing/

On this side of the Pacific. That side depends on how you find the car, and who is clearing what. However you need deregistration, some kind of customs broker, and someone to drop it at the port/load it.

HS-7
3520-1
ISF Filing
Bond and Surety Fee
2.5 % Tarriff
0.3464 Processing Fee
Customs Entry Fee
US Transport

http://importavehicle.blogspot.com/2011 ... er-25.html