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Leorik
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Hello,
This might turn out to be a wall of text lol and for that i am sorry.
I have always loved the 300zx, and next summer its finally time for me to get what i have wanted for so long.
Looking for some advice and i figured no better place to ask then some Z owners.
What i think i am looking for: 1990+ 300zx twin turbo, probably lhd, not sure if i want 2+2 or t-tops.
Not sure if/what exactly the changes are in the years after 1990, so some info on that be awesome.
Also, is it worth it to buy somebody's NA/TT swap?
I want something reliable.
Thanks for anybody who is taking their time to answer some of my question, which i am sure in the future will be more of.


z.Leinbach
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Na to TT swap will be faster out of the gate due to gear ratio but if they did it correctly or had it done correctly should be just as reliable as either of its counter parts. So long as it's been maintained, just make sure the timing belt and up keep has been done, I've been playing hell to get my lot build up car back to pristine

Leorik
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Thanks, i'll keep that in mind.

z.Leinbach
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Anytime, these cars are a boat load of fun but a birch to work on if you aren't equiped with the right tools

grayman_TT
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If you are set on a tt model, I would suggest that you look at getting a clean, unmolested c code z32. I would personally stay away from a swapped car, it could be a can of worms.

As z.leinbach said, make sure it has been maintained. If you plan on paying someone to do the repairs, it adds up quick.

Good luck on your search.

Leorik
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Thanks, can't wait to finally be behind the wheel of one of these.

deviantsorcer
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I just bought a 300zx 2+2 and not sure what a 2+2 means but its ready for twin turbos and wondering what rought i should go im trying to teach myself how to build it, end reault no matter how i build will be a 650+ hp and daily driver i need help though this will be my first tumer build and i feel like im in a mid life crisis lol

grantb70
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deviantsorcer wrote:I just bought a 300zx 2+2 and not sure what a 2+2 means but its ready for twin turbos and wondering what rought i should go im trying to teach myself how to build it, end reault no matter how i build will be a 650+ hp and daily driver i need help though this will be my first tumer build and i feel like im in a mid life crisis lol
2+2 means it is a 4 seater rather than a 2 seater. Twin Turbo swap itself is a decent sized job so I'd read up on all of this before you jump into 650+hp builds without really knowing what you're doing. 650 is also a lot of power on any engine even the vg30 and it's really not much of a "first tuner build."

deviantsorcer
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Alright thanks that helps alot yeah i bought it ready for turbos

deviantsorcer
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Were shold i start on the engine? To upgrade

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NolimitZ32
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What do you mean you bought it ready for turbos?

deviantsorcer
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NolimitZ32 wrote:What do you mean you bought it ready for turbos?
Well the person i bought it from said it had everything on it all i had to do was buy the turbos didnt have to do snything else

deviantsorcer
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deviantsorcer wrote:
NolimitZ32 wrote:What do you mean you bought it ready for turbos?
Well the person i bought it from said it had everything on it all i had to do was buy the turbos didnt have to do snything else
What do i need to look for to make sure thats ezaxtly what the motor is i dunno if it was just swapped for a turbo ready motor or if it was already modded and just didnt put turbos on it

grantb70
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deviantsorcer wrote:
NolimitZ32 wrote:What do you mean you bought it ready for turbos?
Well the person i bought it from said it had everything on it all i had to do was buy the turbos didnt have to do snything else
Well he likely lied to you and you just have an NA engine. The 2+2 models didn't come in TT form in America. Putting turbos on an NA will just blow it up so if you really want a TT then you're going to have to swap the engine which, again, is a pretty big job for someone who hasn't worked on these cars at all. I'd suggest just sticking with your NA for now and learning your way around it. They're still awesome cars in NA form.

----Sorry this is so off topic to the original post :frown:

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NolimitZ32
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^small correction, a NA engine can be successfully turbo'd BUT the peak threshold will be lower than with a TT engine AND you will need a VERY VERY good tune. In short, I am sorry but it looks like you may have gotten screwed by the seller. Only real way I could think of to test is to run a compression test to see if you are making unusually low numbers (for a NA) which would indicate you have lower comp pistons, however even this isn't a guarantee.

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MrFeesLaw
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deviantsorcer wrote:I just bought a 300zx 2+2 and not sure what a 2+2 means but its ready for twin turbos and wondering what rought i should go im trying to teach myself how to build it, end reault no matter how i build will be a 650+ hp and daily driver i need help though this will be my first tumer build and i feel like im in a mid life crisis lol
A 650hp+ daily driver!? Don't mean to smash your dreams, but anything with that much power isn't going to be comfortable or fun to take to work. Maybe sometimes on weekends, but not every day. You would need a competition clutch and many other parts that would make it very difficult to keep a low profile while you rev up to 3k before you leave every stoplight. 650 horsepower will also require A LOT of internal engine building, of which you told us you didn't have much experience.

Not saying all of this isn't able to be done, just saying it would be much more practical to shoot for a number more like 400hp. It would still be able to be driven daily without much trouble, and wouldn't require near as much money or build knowledge. You shouldn't even have to touch the transmission at 400hp.

I plan on making big numbers in my Z too, but it isn't going to be a daily. Going to be something I drive on the street for sure! Just not every day. The car will be loud, will probably squeel tires at every light with the competition clutch, and will have way too much money in it for me to want to put thousands of miles on it every month.

It is all up to you. In the end it is your car, and you can do what you want. Just wanted to make sure you understand the drivability you will lose with nearly 700hp.

Congrats on the Z though! If you have any questions during the build there are tons of people on the forum with great info! Post some pics of the car when you get a chance! :bigthumb:

Good luck! :dblthumb:

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NolimitZ32
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^ my Z is very capable of 650 (with tune and bigger injectors) everything else on the car was planned and will handle well over 650 (including the clutch). Building a 650hp Z that is daily drivable is not difficult, it is expensive however and will require a lot of continued maintenance which will be quite a bit more expensive than your everyday corolla. The big question here is: Do you really need a 650hp Daily and can you afford it?

Leorik
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so a 2+2 only came in north-America as a NA? if so that's no good, was going to look for a 2+2 TT.

grantb70
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Leorik wrote:so a 2+2 only came in north-America as a NA? if so that's no good, was going to look for a 2+2 TT.
Well you could always look for a tt swapped 2+2 or just do the swap yourself if you really want a 2+2 :)

Leorik
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hey all,
going to purchase a Z here shorty and was wondering you some of you could tell me some of the common things to look out for. i have heard that it is common for the z32's to have power steering leaks. (not sure if that's true or not).


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