Life after Nissan stops making parts for the Nissan President and Q45

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Well I sometimes watch that show "Life after people" and I just wondered yesterday what would life be like without any more OEM parts?

Will we be at the mercy of after market UNIVERSAL parts?

Can we make parts like Q45tech says they do in Cuba?

When will Nissan finally say "hey lets kill one of the best cars we have ever made, (And not make parts for it)?

Q45tech partly inspired this topic.


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Nissan has already stopped producing many parts for the G50- most parts you can still purchase have been sitting in warehouses for years....when the inventory depletes, you are stuck with buying used from the boneyard- already a few under-plenum hoses are unavailable anywhere brand new.

Aftermarket will not create parts for the g50- too few sold when new, and now after all these years, too few remain on the road- and most that do remain drivable are owned by poor people who will drive them til they break and tow to junkyard- sad but true.

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Nissan nor their supplier have made parts in years since the 7-10 year final run. Same with shocks, injectors everything is at least 7 years old in dealer/warehouse inventory for a 90-93Q.

Why I suggest everyone stock a few wrecks of the same color in backyard.

To protect them from our less than neat [rip and tear] members.

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Unfortunately, most of us lack the space to store a spare/donor vehicle on our own property - and renting a storage unit would be prohibitively expensive.

What I need is an enterprising junkyard that will allow me to buy a donor vehicle and leave it stored on their property - off-limits to other scavengers. I'd pay the junkyard 100 bucks a year for the privilege of being able to come and take parts off my donor car any time I wished. The junkyard could offer other services to pad their profits, such as a "car finder" that locates a suitable vehicle and has it delivered locally, rental of tools, overhead lift, engine hoist, etc.

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If shoebox and musclecar guys can still get NOS parts for their 50 and 60 year old cars, I'd say we Q owners are safe for a while.

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I've looked up many parts for my Q and found out that they're not available.

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qship96 wrote:Nissan has already stopped producing many parts for the G50- most parts you can still purchase have been sitting in warehouses for years....when the inventory depletes, you are stuck with buying used from the boneyard- already a few under-plenum hoses are unavailable anywhere brand new.

Aftermarket will not create parts for the g50- too few sold when new, and now after all these years, too few remain on the road- and most that do remain drivable are owned by poor people who will drive them til they break and tow to junkyard- sad but true.
So in the case of the no longer made plenum hoses, What do we do?
Q45tech wrote:Nissan nor their supplier have made parts in years since the 7-10 year final run. Same with shocks, injectors everything is at least 7 years old in dealer/warehouse inventory for a 90-93Q.

Why I suggest everyone stock a few wrecks of the same color in backyard.

To protect them from our less than neat [rip and tear] members.
I understand that being true for electrical components but rubber components (bushings, hoses...) that simply will not work.
Skibane wrote:Unfortunately, most of us lack the space to store a spare/donor vehicle on our own property - and renting a storage unit would be prohibitively expensive.

What I need is an enterprising junkyard that will allow me to buy a donor vehicle and leave it stored on their property - off-limits to other scavengers. I'd pay the junkyard 100 bucks a year for the privilege of being able to come and take parts off my donor car any time I wished. The junkyard could offer other services to pad their profits, such as a "car finder" that locates a suitable vehicle and has it delivered locally, rental of tools, overhead lift, engine hoist, etc.
You FGY33 and F50 guys have a couple more years, we G50 guys don't.

Plus $100 a month will not cover the cost of what you want unless a couple of thousand people pitched in.
MinisterofDOOM wrote:If shoebox and musclecar guys can still get NOS parts for their 50 and 60 year old cars, I'd say we Q owners are safe for a while.
I really hope so.

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time for a new car when you begin to need certain new parts that are no longer available from the manufacturer. Probably another 5-7 years tops before it becomes a real problem, and by then most g50 will be ready for junkyard anyway-wrecks,rust,wornout beyond economically prudent expendatures, just old and tired

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I just had a bunch of work done on my 84' 300ZX and there were still Nissan Rotor caps, radiator parts that I needed.

Seems like you cna get along, now a color coded interior part, forget about it. You can get Nissan reman'ed alternators and starters still easily for the Z.

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BadQ45t wrote:I just had a bunch of work done on my 84' 300ZX and there were still Nissan Rotor caps, radiator parts that I needed.
The Z31 benefits from the fact that Nissan continued producing the VG-E until 2004.

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im not really too worried about it, theres not much on the car that cant be fairly easily replicated.. transmission can be rebuilt, engines can be rebuilt, anything else can be rebuilt...

For what its worth, nissan is not the best/cost effective source for many parts.. Who buys OEM shocks anymore anyway, nearly everyone gets tokico blues..


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MinisterofDOOM wrote:
The Z31 benefits from the fact that Nissan continued producing the VG-E until 2004.
Also, just look at the production numbers on Z's, the Q is not comparable, especially for the Z31.

Yeah, there will be almost no aftermarket support for G50's, I work for such a company and I think we might carry one part for the Q.

*just checked, we carry starters, thats it.

Oh well... good thing im going to be stripping/parting out my car, at least I know there is a market.

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Why are you parting out your car?

Do you have more pictures of it?

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Maybe I should raise the prices on some of my new OEM parts I've got for sale

Anyone want to rehab most of their (94-96) front end?

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Your asking prices are already too close to purchasing directly from joe and receiving the 12,000 mile/12 month warranty. get those prices to 50% of Joes prices and they will move quicker!

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qship96 wrote:Your asking prices are already too close to purchasing directly from joe and receiving the 12,000 mile/12 month warranty. get those prices to 50% of Joes prices and they will move quicker!
Well, I'm pretty sure there's no negotiating with "Joe" ... interested buyers can try negotiating with me.

Yes, I imagine brand new parts for 50% of IOS (good) pricing would sell quickly ... and let me know the last time any "hard" parts you've bought exercised the 12/12 warranty.

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Rex wrote:
Well, I'm pretty sure there's no negotiating with "Joe" ... interested buyers can try negotiating with me.

Yes, I imagine brand new parts for 50% of IOS (good) pricing would sell quickly ... and let me know the last time any "hard" parts you've bought exercised the 12/12 warranty.
just a few months ago, the genuine Infiniti starter I bought from Joe crapped out after only 5000 miles..............Sure would have sucked if I bought it from an individual eh?

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qship96 wrote:
just a few months ago, the genuine Infiniti starter I bought from Joe crapped out after only 5000 miles..............Sure would have sucked if I bought it from an individual eh?
IMHO, that's an electrical part, not a hard part - apples and oranges my friend, apples and oranges.

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Why is it almost every topic I make has a fight in it?

Rex is a damn good seller.

Its not smart to warranty parts when a individual sells them, now when its a business with insurance, more business...then a warranty is OK.

But for what Rex is selling how can you expect mats to fail, They aren't made by Toyota so they won't kill you. And the shocks should be OK if they are new, what the worst that can happen.

So Rex has his prices set a tiny bit less than Joe, but some of his parts are hard to find. I have faith that his parts will sell and I may buy the black mats if no one else does.

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dude, I would not call this a "fight" by any means!!!! Rex said maybe he should raise the prices of his parts{hopefully joking}.....and I just stated that it is common sense to have to offer them for considerably less than one could get them from Joe considering the ones you would purchase from Joe would include the warranty..... simple concept.

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Yeah, I didn't consider this a fight, a bit of a "debate" maybe, but a good one at that.

Are my "asking" prices a bit high, if you look at them as used parts - yes (which most aren't). To qship's point, warranty has a value, I was just pointing out that added value is less on "hard" mechanical parts with little to no moving parts and a low failure rate.

And yes, I was joking about raising my prices ... except possibly the new OEM black mats, they've become impossible to find .

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qship96 wrote:
just a few months ago, the genuine Infiniti starter I bought from Joe crapped out after only 5000 miles..............Sure would have sucked if I bought it from an individual eh?
That really sucks. We avoid buying aftermarket to avoid these kind of hassles. The oem parts used in brand new Nissan/Infiniti alternators and starters are very expensive and makes you wonder when they sell you a rebuilt unit, what parts are they using?

What was the mileage on your car when the starter failed?

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The original starter never actually "failed", but the car would occasionally make a grinding sound when trying to start.......dealer could never duplicate problem while under factory warranty- finally at about 230,000 miles I had to drop transmission to replace dripping turbine sensor so I figured I would do everything while transmission was dropped- replaced starter, flexplate, turbine sensor, rear main seal and transmission tailshaft seal. The main seal and tailshaft seal were not leaking at all, but considering each was a 5-10 dollar part and original, it made sense to replace while they were accessable as there is no additional labor cost to do.

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Paul Wall wrote:Why are you parting out your car?

Do you have more pictures of it?
Once I get my gf's Sentra SER Spec V back on the road, I am going to be driving that.

Then engine and rear suspension assembly from the Q is going in my Z31.

I can take more pics of it shortly.

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qship96 wrote:The original starter never actually "failed", but the car would occasionally make a grinding sound when trying to start.......dealer could never duplicate problem while under factory warranty- finally at about 230,000 miles I had to drop transmission to replace dripping turbine sensor so I figured I would do everything while transmission was dropped- replaced starter, flexplate, turbine sensor, rear main seal and transmission tailshaft seal. The main seal and tailshaft seal were not leaking at all, but considering each was a 5-10 dollar part and original, it made sense to replace while they were accessable as there is no additional labor cost to do.
Why did you have to drop the transmission to replace the turbine sensor since Goody said he didn't have to?

From: posting.php?mode=quote&f=177&p=5013815
goody90q45 wrote: I took the Q to my trusted shop to have the sensor installed and provided copies of the FSM pages to show it's location and R&R instructions. Total labor was .7 hour and he was able to install without removing the exhaust pipe and disconnecting the driveshaft (as the FSM instructed).

From: 94-j30t-turbine-sensor-replacement-help-t119211.html
halfbyte wrote:Yes, it was the turbine revolution sensor located on top of the tramsmission where bellhousing meets the transmission body.

Yes, it is the one that shows in the picture that "FarFetched" posted

And yes, it took me about 15 mins to pull out the sensor and replace. I wan't including the time from jacking up the car... but if I may, from jacking up the car to clean-up, it's more like 45 mins. Sorry for the time(duration) confusion.

But for sure, this job does not require you to drop sup/cradle or the transmission on 94 J30t.

Cheers~~

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I was getting tired of the occasional grinding of the starter/flexplate { has been occasionally grinding when trying to start since the car had 20,000 miles on it- figured that by 230,000 miles it was time, as the frequency of problem was becoming greater, maybe 1x in every 15-20 starts.....the turbine sensor dripping was the push I needed to finally solve the issue- the seals just made sense to do also while transmission was out- also a huge,huge motivator for me was finding my current all time favorite tech that now gets 100% of my business.....he is hands down the best tech I have ever used in my 30+ years of car ownership

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How would you like to own a car that hasn't had any parts produced by the manufacturer since 1934?

Some of the car club members are machinists that make replacement parts from raw materials.

This car was one of the most innovative motor cars of its time, featuring an air-cooled engine, scientific light weight and flexible construction at a time when other luxury car manufacturers were making ponderous machines. Although it was a luxury car, its unique features made it a pleasant and easy car to operate, and consequently most cars were owner driven. The car's design allowed it to set many records in point-to-point races which revealed its superior nimble handling, durability, economy and speed over the rough roads of the day.

Sound familiar?

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