Lexus LFA vs. Nissan GT-R

[LocAL_anarchy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5R-oi91bd4

[zach-Ka]

Cool video. I am surprised the GTR did that well.

[numbnuts240]

they're both ugly and have nothing to do with 240's. tts.

[bllabong89]

Yea, the LFA is a sick as car but for 4 times the amount of the GT-R, It should win. Kinda sad though, it only beats the GT-R by 1/10th of a second. I will admit that the Lexus is one mean lookin car and sounds like an F1 car. Great video

[wingFeather]

Lex sux

[LocAL_anarchy]

they're both ugly and have nothing to do with 240's. tts.

my bad. meant to put this in gen chat

[bigbadberry3]

It sounds sooo purty. But seriously GTR>LFA.

[ProudNissanFreak]

I'm going to buy both of them

...in GT5, that is

[Watermelonwarrior]

Its a cool car but I could never justify spending that kind of money on a Lexus.

[elwesso]

I would be interested to see if the GTR is faster on the track, like the 'ring or something like that.. I bet it probably is...

I would say though that you could race a GTR and an LFA all day and they would probably go back and forth in who wins in a 1/4 mile, due to driver reaction times and stuff..

Still, the the practicality of a GT-R makes it a lot more appealing than a vehicle thats worth twice my house.

still would be cool to race an LFA 0-60 and blow the doors off it...

[wingFeather]

Heritage. Lexus just doesn't have it.

Which race car was Lexus making in the 70's? Oh wait, the company didn't even exist...

[numbnuts240]

Heritage. Lexus just doesn't have it.

Which race car was Lexus making in the 70's? Oh wait, the company didn't even exist...

ummm...toyota...

[Infinitiguy19]

In the words of Q451990:

"Gotta hope they got the accelerator pedal right on this one... jammed at WOT in this thing could take out a whole town."

[93coupe]

I'll gladly buy a car without heritage so long as it's a nice vehicle. I'd take the LFA or an LS460.

[elwesso]

About the most enjoyment I have ever gotten from being in a lexus is the fact that i made it to my destination...

Im not saying they're bad cars, but they're more numb then my legs are after 30 mins on the toilet....

[Encryptshun]

About the most enjoyment I have ever gotten from being in a lexus is the fact that i made it to my destination...

Im not saying they're bad cars, but they're more numb then my legs are after 30 mins on the toilet....

Wow, man, you're gonna have hemorrhoids the size of grapefruit if you keep that up.

[flohtingPoint]

I would be interested to see if the GTR is faster on the track, like the 'ring or something like that.. I bet it probably is...

The Ring is honestly not a very good testing place. I rarely ever pay attention to lap records or anything about it, mainly because there are far too many variables and the track surface is absolutely terrible. One of the main reasons manufacturers use it is because of it's availability (open nearly every day of the year during ~winter) and folks who read Car and Driver/Motortrend get all giddy about Ring times.

Now, running both cars at Catalunya (where F1 does most of it's testing) would be very interesting.

[HashiriyaS14]

Heritage. Lexus just doesn't have it.

Which race car was Lexus making in the 70's? Oh wait, the company didn't even exist...

[elwesso]

I would be interested to see if the GTR is faster on the track, like the 'ring or something like that.. I bet it probably is...

The Ring is honestly not a very good testing place. I rarely ever pay attention to lap records or anything about it, mainly because there are far too many variables and the track surface is absolutely terrible. One of the main reasons manufacturers use it is because of it's availability (open nearly every day of the year during ~winter) and folks who read Car and Driver/Motortrend get all giddy about Ring times.

Now, running both cars at Catalunya (where F1 does most of it's testing) would be very interesting.

I dont really care the arena, I agree there are probably better places to test than the ring..

The point is.. if the lexus cant outhandle the GT-R, then its a waste of money unless you just want to look cool in a 400k lexus.. Hell, you could get a 599 or gallardo for half the price.

[flohtingPoint]

The point is.. if the lexus cant outhandle the GT-R, then its a waste of money unless you just want to look cool in a 400k lexus.. Hell, you could get a 599 or gallardo for half the price.

Chances are, if you're throwing down that type of money for a car, you're seeing more meetings/power lunches and less track days. Worrying about what supercar can outhandle another supercar is almost a moot point. Those cars come down to personal preference and which ones can net you the most seat time with the opposite genders genitals (or same gender if one rolls that way).

Fact of the matter is, they're both a monstrous waste of money because a Factory Five Roadster or a Caterham could put the wood to both of those cars, but people that buy supercars aren't exactly clipping coupons and shopping at Costco.

[Bubba1]

Heritage. Lexus just doesn't have it.

Which race car was Lexus making in the 70's? Oh wait, the company didn't even exist...

Wing, Lexus' parent company did exist and has been involved in racing for decades. Perhaps you've heard of them....Toyota.

There are certainly other cars out there that perform better for less money than the Lexus, and other cars that give a better sense of driver involvement than the Nissan. The point is simply a comparison between the two cars, which was cool.

I think I'd prefer to drive the Lexus, but due to the huge price difference, own the Nissan.

[Encryptshun]

Those cars come down to personal preference and which ones can net you the most seat time with the opposite genders genitals (or same gender if one rolls that way).

Fact of the matter is, they're both a monstrous waste of money because a Factory Five Roadster or a Caterham could put the wood to both of those cars, but people that buy supercars aren't exactly clipping coupons and shopping at Costco.

Awesome.

[Bubba1]

Chances are, if you're throwing down that type of money for a car, you're seeing more meetings/power lunches and less track days. Worrying about what supercar can outhandle another supercar is almost a moot point. Those cars come down to personal preference and which ones can net you the most seat time with the opposite genders genitals (or same gender if one rolls that way).

So true...

But not all true about the Factory five roadster or Caterham. Yes, incredible bang for the buck advantage, but the FF Cobra and Cat are only strong on tight windy circuits, like Summit Point's Shenandoah. Put them on a long road course like VIR or Watkins Glen, and both the Lexus/Nissan would eat them for breakfast.

[flohtingPoint]

But not all true about the Factory five roadster or Caterham. Yes, incredible bang for the buck advantage, but the FF Cobra and Cat are only strong on tight windy circuits, like Summit Point's Shenandoah. Put them on a long road course like VIR or Watkins Glen, and both the Lexus/Nissan would eat them for breakfast.

Factory Fives weigh less than my Corolla (every one of the Roadsters at the Pro Solo were at least 100 lbs lighter than my Toyota) and have about 5 times it's hp. Their minimal downforce, massive power to weight and shorter braking zones would make them optimal on an open road course. The Caterham, however, would be at at loss on longer straights.

[wingFeather]

Lexus' parent company did exist and has been heavily involved in racing for decades.

http://en.wiki pedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Racing

Not the most compelling history, and Toyota is selling this vehicle as a "Lexus" not a Toyota. Every Lexus made has a big L on the hood... stands for "L"oser I have to guess...

I'd put my money into Ferrari. Less poseur douchery, more meaning, more fun.

[Bubba1]

But not all true about the Factory five roadster or Caterham. Yes, incredible bang for the buck advantage, but the FF Cobra and Cat are only strong on tight windy circuits, like Summit Point's Shenandoah. Put them on a long road course like VIR or Watkins Glen, and both the Lexus/Nissan would eat them for breakfast.

Factory Fives weigh less than my Corolla (every one of the Roadsters at the Pro Solo were at least 100 lbs lighter than my Toyota) and have about 5 times it's hp. Their minimal downforce, massive power to weight and shorter braking zones would make them optimal on an open road course. The Caterham, however, would be at at loss on longer straights.

Weight and power are not the problems with them. The problem is aerodynamics. Their brick-like aerodynamics make them a real handful over 100mph. I know an owner that tracks his FF roadster. They are autocross monsters, but on road courses with long straights, not so much.

[Infinitiguy19]

Lexus' parent company did exist and has been involved in racing for decades.

http://en.wiki pedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Racing

Not the most compelling history, and Toyota is selling this vehicle as a "Lexus" not a Toyota. Every Lexus made has a big L on the hood... stands for "L"oser I have to guess...

I'd put my money into Ferrari. Less poseur douchery, more meaning, more fun.

I couldn't agree more with you brother!

[Bubba1]

http://en.wiki pedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Racing

Not the most compelling history, and Toyota is selling this vehicle as a "Lexus" not a Toyota. Every Lexus made has a big L on the hood... stands for "L"oser I have to guess...

I'd put my money into Ferrari. Less poseur douchery, more meaning, more fun.

The point here is you were incorrect to claim there was no racing heritage for that company. The fact is, Toyota's racing heritage dates back to the 1950's.

[wingFeather]

The point here is you were incorrect to claim there was no racing heritage for that company. The fact is, Toyota's racing heritage dates back to the 1950's.

Can you provide some links? Wik ipedia shows their introduction more recently... not the 50's, and not even on par with Datsun/Nissan. Definitely not a level that backs up the asking price of this Corolla LFA.

[Bubba1]

The point here is you were incorrect to claim there was no racing heritage for that company. The fact is, Toyota's racing heritage dates back to the 1950's.

Can you provide some links? Wik ipedia shows their introduction more recently... not the 50's, and not even on par with Datsun/Nissan. Definitely not a level that backs up the asking price of this Corolla LFA.

Use the wiki link you just provided earlier. Click on the origins section.

As info, early Celica's were popular rally cars in the 70's, They went in big in the early 90's winning 4 consecutive WRC titles. They also competed at LeMans in the 90's, F1 about 10 years ago, and more recently Nascrap.,