I cant find a clearly organized chart, but apparently Lexus is still the top-selling luxury brand in the US, a title it took from Cadillac at the turn of the century.DAEDALUS wrote:Didn't think the employee discount applied. Where can I find sales numbers for L****?
Hmmm ... not to disbelieve, but I see a lot more Mercedes Benz's around here than Lexus. That may, however, be due to the fact that there is an MB dealer about three miles from my house - the closest car dealer of any kind!Jesda wrote:I cant find a clearly organized chart, but apparently Lexus is still the top-selling luxury brand in the US, a title it took from Cadillac at the turn of the century.
Yeah, I test drove a used 1998 GS400 and thought it was a really great RWD Accord.szhosain wrote:When the GS400 was first released, I think it caught a lot of people by surprise for its performance characteristics. I almost considered getting one years ago.
Yeah, I test drove one back in 1998 sometime and was quite pleasantly surprised. Anyway, I decided to trade my 1991 in for a 1995 (used) ... which, in hindsight, turned out to be a mistake (it was a lease return, and I was naive in thinking the car had been maintained.)maxnix wrote:Yeah, I test drove a used 1998 GS400 and thought it was a really great RWD Accord.
Heartily agreed! I am very happy with my 2003 M45, even though it does not compare to the 2006!maxnix wrote:M45, baby! Both are better than the contemporary GS model.
Those six words sum up the entirety of Toyota and Lexus's existence for me.Ev_eezy wrote:doesn't make much sense to me
Sadly, some one dealer market dealers are not up to snuff.Dozer42 wrote:Picked up an M45 Sport for my wife on Saturday, and it's been a blast to drive. In my opinion it absolutely crushes the Lexus GS in every single regard except one, and that's customer service.
Short of the loaner cars and the kids area, my NISSAN--not Infiniti, just Nissan--dealer does ALL of that. Fewer bays, too, but there's no room for any more. All that for the owner of a privately traded car that was purchased there brand new 13 years ago. Lexus impresses people with that because people have crappy expectations. It should be standard fare. I guess we have better than normal dealerships around here--but even the DODGE dealerships do that stuff.Dozer42 wrote:Free coffee, espresso, soft drinks, cookies, sandwiches, etc...And this is even before becoming a customer!
Then check out their completely seperate service facility about 5 miles away. The garage floor is also tiled, and absolutely spotless. They've got 32 bays equipped with lifts, and over 100 loaner cars.
When mine needed warranty work or major service, I'd just give them a call and they'd drop off a loaner car and pick mine up. They'd do the work, detail the car completely, and drop mine off. (The maintenance certainly was NOT cheap though!)
At the service facility they have all the free drinks, cookies, PCs set up with internet connections, a big-screen TV, an area for the kids, etc.
Dozer42 wrote:I guess I'm just 'shallow' and stupid because I fall for these gimmicks. Pretty dumb of me to like having a good dealer who actually takes care of me.
Apparently Ryan has siblings.Dozer42 wrote:That's what you call a compliment? That I bought the Infiniti anyway, even though I was shallow enough to fall for Lexus' gimmicks before?
Keep your compliments to yourself.
Your remark was very snobbish. Somehow you think you're smarter than other car owners because of your Infiniti? That you weren't swayed by shallow gimmicks.
That's extremely insulting. Despite what you imply, Lexus owners aren't stupid people.
Don't paint me with that same brush thanks. I don't feel I'm better or smarter than everyone else for buying an Infiniti, I just bought it because it was a good car that beat the competition.
The Midol is yours for the taking.Dozer42 wrote:Got it, you're saying you're PMSing?
That would explain the holier-than-thou attitude from a kid with daddy's ancient 12 year old car.
Good luck with that.
I hope that type of attitude isn't representative of most Infiniti drivers.
My belief, based just on observations as a consumer, is that Lexus dealers tend to be more consistently nicer (is that even a valid phrase? ). It seems like a larger number of Infiniti dealers operate as dual Nissan/Infiniti franchises, with amenities, parts availability, and service on par with Toyota and Honda dealers, but lacking a luxury ambience to take it to the next level. I don't doubt that the particular dealerships you've worked at are competitive with Lexus.Ev_eezy wrote:In my opinion Infiniti and Lexus' service are dead even. There are some Lexus dealers that will better Infiniti dealers in service just like there are Infiniti dealers that will better Lexus dealers in service. I agree that Lexus of Stevens Creek is probably one of the best -- if not the best automovtive dealership of any kind in the Bay Area. Look at how much money they've spent to plug all of those bells and whistles in there though.