
Seriously, did they hire Chris Bangle's meth-addict cousin to design their concepts?



Balls. Toyota is coming with some big hairy ones. Don't hate because you can't stunt!Akio Toyoda is doing a pretty decent job at the helm of the Toyota empire. This is the man, after all, that declared that Toyota would get new sports cars, and that they needed to be, not should be, rear-wheel drive. We can respect that. Toyoda is also trying to do away with his company's conservative styling and bring edgier vehicles to market.
Toyota's designers have done just that, although perhaps they went a bit too far. In November, Toyota debuted its fourteenth-generation Crown with a bling-bling fascia that makes Lexus' spindle grille look as conservative as a three-piece suit, and a retina-searing pink paintjob. See, in Japan, the Crown is to Japan's older crowd what the 2002 Buick Park Avenue is to America's senior citizens. As Automotive News reports, the idea with the pink was to draw attention to the grille, but it was originally intended as a debut item, only.
Now, Toyota is actually planning to offer the electric fuchsia Crown for sale to regular buyers. Interested parties will have from September 1st to September 30th to place an order for the big sedan. According to the AN report, Toyoda said to reporters at the debut, "My initial reaction was: 'You're kidding! Please, not pink." We wish they were kidding.
AZhitman wrote:
Seriously, did they hire Chris Bangle's meth-addict cousin to design their concepts?
I've wondered this myself, quite a bit. In fact, if you look at most new front grills, half (or more) of it isn't even pass-through. The holes are blocked off with black plastic.AZhitman wrote:On a more-related note...
WTF is with the move towards larger and larger grilles, when the reality is, they're less and less a necessity??? Most airflow for a properly-designed modern front fascia comes from the lower bumper opening.
Yep. I was in the minority, but when they came out, I thought, "that looks cheesy, tacky and cheap. Not classy like a clean projector lamp or even mildly cool like BMW's angel eyes."gwoods wrote:Its Audi fault the giant grills and the stupid LED lights under the headlight. These are the spinning rims of 2013
Can't be good for aerodynamics.PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:In fact, if you look at most new front grills, half (or more) of it isn't even pass-through. The holes are blocked off with black plastic.
A XJL Supercharged owner in my Jaguar club took the time and effort to craft a LED bar into the oil cooler scoops on either side of his Jag. SO TACKY! Way to ruin a 100k carAZhitman wrote: Yep. I was in the minority, but when they came out, I thought, "that looks cheesy, tacky and cheap. Not classy like a clean projector lamp or even mildly cool like BMW's angel eyes."
Sorry, Audi. You've got your fanbois, but I ain't one of them.
I'm not a fan of Audi's "big mouth bass" lookin' front end either, but I don't mind the front end of the S5/RS5/A5, of course there's a license plate bracket that kinda splits it.AZhitman wrote:Yep. I was in the minority, but when they came out, I thought, "that looks cheesy, tacky and cheap. Not classy like a clean projector lamp or even mildly cool like BMW's angel eyes."gwoods wrote:Its Audi fault the giant grills and the stupid LED lights under the headlight. These are the spinning rims of 2013
Sorry, Audi. You've got your fanbois, but I ain't one of them.
Actually, that's why they do it. The less air that flows through your radiator, the more aerodynamic the car is. The wind will form a sort of "buffer" in front of the grill and just pass over it.AZhitman wrote: Can't be good for aerodynamics.
God could you imagine if they made a cabriolet version of this??Bubba1 wrote:
Wow, that's putrid. Okay, which is worse? This way-overstyled angular looking mess of a crossover, or the freshly excreted turd look of the Nissan's current Murano Cross Cabriolet?
Right, but I can't imagine that creating an egg-crate grid with 1" deep blocked openings is better than a smooth fascia.PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:Actually, that's why they do it. The less air that flows through your radiator, the more aerodynamic the car is. The wind will form a sort of "buffer" in front of the grill and just pass over it.AZhitman wrote: Can't be good for aerodynamics.
It actually doesn't matter much (see: golfballs). That air isn't "going anywhere", for lack of a better description. It's not being moved, and therefore it's not stealing energy. It requires a LOT more energy to pass air through the engine bay or over undercarriage components than it does to push it around the car. This is why modern pickups have goofy little valances below the bumpers. Push air around the truck rather than pass it over the axles and suspension and drivetrain crap that's hanging below. It's also why Nissan made such a big deal with the 350Z and 6th gen Maxima about the carefully-designed underbody cladding improving drag coefficient. The eggcrate is a non-issue. The pockets more or less fill with air (again, oversimplification) and it effectively becomes a smooth surface for surrounding airflow.AZhitman wrote:Right, but I can't imagine that creating an egg-crate grid with 1" deep blocked openings is better than a smooth fascia.


Nuff said...AZhitman wrote:
Plus, what a stupid idea - Drive that thing through a swarm of bugs and you'll spend a month cleaning it all out of the crevices.
Well, considering the average new Lexus buyer has an AARP card, odds are those bugs are gonna be cleaned off my their local car wash, not owner themselves. I don't see them griping that much. .AZhitman wrote:I'm familiar with the boundary layer and laminar flow and all that - Just seems that a smooth surface would still be better (especially when it's the "tip of the spear") than a collection of roughly-shaped pockets.
Plus, what a stupid idea - Drive that thing through a swarm of bugs and you'll spend a month cleaning it all out of the crevices.