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KingNub
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alright so heres the planbuy a junker rustbucket 240z for less than 200 dollars and spend the rest of the money on an l28e turbo 82-83 variety and everything that pops up as needed for the swapall for less than 500 dollarsand than do a 24 hour endurance race with it :Di believe it can be done

i got this http://www.yadamnfool.com/turb...z.htmfrom this zer...age=2

anything not included in that that you guys think would be helpful would be appreciated

also if you have things that you believe i would find useful for this ill buy em off yah XDbut remember gotta keep it under 500 or i get penalties :/http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/

thanks for the help and input etc :D im in the virginia area


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evildky
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it's hard to find a decent chassis for that price, if you do, buy it! and the lemons race isn't abotu being fast, it's about going the distance

most fo the cars you find at a lemons race aren't real fast, they handle well and survive! the 240z is a good candidate if you can find a suitable chassis thats solid enough yet not worth saving as a lemons car is subject to randon destruction

I rather like a ford excort 1.9 as a leons car, plenticul, cheap, easy to work on, even sparcely stocked parts stores in remote locations stock most repair parts, try locating a new calliper or wheel cylinder for a 240z when one majically fails, also it's a good idea if there is a second hole car

lightweight cars that use small tires are ideal as their race tires are cheaper and the reduced weight means longer tire life

also fuel efficiency is an issue, with the 240z, more fuel consumption means more stops, and the solid rotors and rear drums are gonna be an issue once the heat begins to build

I totally want to do a lemons car but too many project and not enough space

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KingNub
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have looked at ford escorts for it and have seriously considered using one but overall i beleive the 240z will be alot more fun in the end :D

have considered anything from subaru legacy's to geo metro'sand old porsche's XD

ive looked around and found rusty cheep 240z shells abundant and have been looking for 82-83 280zx parts cars in addition to sending out feelers for motors

ill keep yall posted with updates as they come

bigred240sx
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man i hope you can do it. a guy i knew is doing one of these races here in houston next month. he is using an 87 supra turbo he got for real cheap. i cant wait to see a race like this. where are you racing at.

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there has been a 280 zx in at least one race, I still say the fuel economy of the Z is gonna be a problem

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KingNub
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i figure that if i get around 18 mpg witha 16 gallon fuel tank i can make it around 300 miles or maybe like 250-270which is plenty enough plus i dont think there will be anytime where ill be going over 80 depending on what track its onim sure having the car completely stripped and no glass + a roll cagewill lighten the car a bit from stock so i dont knowwe'll see when it gets thereplus im not really doing this to win haha its mostly just to have as much fun as i can with some good friends doing something we enjoy :Dhaha i bet that thing was a blast

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roflmao! you think you can get 18 mpg from a Z on a track! try closer to 10 mpg, don't believe me, take your Z to a track and find out, turbo it and you might even get a single digit! no joke, my L28ET wered S30 gets arudn 5 mpg! track only, and thats about what my Z31 gets as well, and i run race fuel in both at $6 a gallon

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oh damn lolmaybe ill have to rethink it than XDdidnt know it was quite that bad i figured like 14-18but 5 jeez thats a stretch also would be doing this on pump gas ie 91 or 93 octanenot so into the whole 6 dollars a gallon for race gas im assuming is just 109 octane unleaded unless your using 112 or 115 leadedmeh

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C12 leaded

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KingNub
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:/ ill have to look into this more and your is fuel injected as well which leads me to believe that the carborated v. would be even more horrible on gas X_X

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carbs might consume more fuel than injected but not more than turbo! carbs just offer less points of potential failure (or at least SU's do)

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blackice280zx
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If you want to do lemons I would run a 280z or 280zx N/A! Fuelinjected N/A L28 gets pretty decent gas mileage IMHO. Carbs would cause a problem on gas and may stumble out on hard corners. The turbo is nice but not worth it on gas

lbreevesii
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actually, you can do ANYTHING you want to it. no limits. NONE. i'm sure you're going but its true. check it out:

http://forums.24hoursoflemons....=1923



go nuts! just to see if they'll let it pass, my 240sx lemons racer will get all the Z emblems I can find

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blackice280zx
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wow Z=0 thats harsh. Is there no love for the Z cars anymore?

lbreevesii
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apparently not with these guys. Apparently its well earned though, there have been quite a few Z's in lemons races. Hell for that matter no nissan had ever won until just a couple of races back. Maybe now the curse is broken and a Z will win one!!!!


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