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What are you running and how do you like them? Pics? I have a 14 rogue SL without the projectors and going to purchase some kind of better lighting once i decided what to do


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I've got the factory LED low beams and I like them....so I'll vote LED. Not sure if you could retrofit those or not.

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yea, i found some LED headlight replacements for about 180 each. not sure if they would be a PNP type thing. I am more looking for people who have switched the bulbs out for a HID or LED. I am waiting for my local off road shop that my buddy owns to get back with me on pricing.

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OP.... LED headlight technology has not been around for a a long time. It is difficult to get optcs right to project light properly from an led bulb. Dont take the lazy mans route and throw led bulbs in your halogen headlights. The optics are made for halogen only... You think your output is bad now? Throw some LED bulbs in there and you will have nothing more than another set of parking lights.

Look up a hid projector retrofit or spend the doe on a set of oem LED projector headlights. Only way to utilize those technologies properly

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followingnfront wrote:OP.... LED headlight technology has not been around for a a long time. It is difficult to get optcs right to project light properly from an led bulb. Dont take the lazy mans route and throw led bulbs in your halogen headlights. The optics are made for halogen only... You think your output is bad now? Throw some LED bulbs in there and you will have nothing more than another set of parking lights.

Look up a hid projector retrofit or spend the doe on a set of oem LED projector headlights. Only way to utilize those technologies properly
I had LED headlight bulbs in my truck's halogen housings and they worked flawlessly. Light pattern was the same but brighter on. sounds like i will be going that route with this rogue but i was checking to see if anyone on here has done it already. I believe someone has already thrown HIDs in the halogen housing which is a no no in my book. The LEDs i have/would used are designed/setup on the headlight bulb for halogen housings.

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Got pics of the output on your truck? I dont believe that. Leds are simply not made to the same optics. That bulb may have a base that is made to fit in your halogen based headlight housing... but it does not have the same optics. If it were that easy, everybody would just be using LEDs and it would not be illegal

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Here is a fun fact for those that may not know...most halogen housing for a bi-xenon light are designed so any light hitting the top section of reflectors directs light down and out. Any light hitting the bottom half of the housing projects the light wide and straight for high beams. The manufacturer of the bulbs i would purchase has done alot of R&D to make sure they are safe.

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followingnfront wrote:Got pics of the output on your truck? I dont believe that. Leds are simply not made to the same optics. That bulb may have a base that is made to fit in your halogen based headlight housing... but it does not have the same optics. If it were that easy, everybody would just be using LEDs and it would not be illegal
Before/After - Low Beams

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output on my garage door

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Output on back road

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Output on snow packed road

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Led Bulb
Has two LEDs which are offset for a 9007 application for a total of 2100LM with high beams on. The rogue is a H11 so its different all together.

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JB'sRogue wrote:Here is a fun fact for those that mmeaow...most halogen housing for a bi-xenon light are designed so any light hitting the top secthaleflectors directs light down and out. Any light hitting the bottom half of the housing projects the light wide and straight for high beams. The manufacturer of the bulbs i would purchase has done alot of R&D to make sure they are safe.
Halogen reflectors are designed For the position of the filaments in the bulbs and how they shine out. Same goes for hid reflectors and hid bulbs. Neither are meant to be used in a housing that is not meant for it... And the same goes for LED... And i dont know what you meant but halogen housings are NOT meant for bi-xenon....

It doesnt matter how much "r&d" the company did... It is illegal to use bulbs of different optics in halogen housings.... If this company's bulbs are not dot sae certified to be used as halogen bulb replacements then they arent legit

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Those ouput pics are impressive i must say. But the problem associated with using mismatched bulbs is glare. They might be brighter, but they may also have stray light that blinds oncoming drivers... That is the big problem with hids. And it is all because of the different optics

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followingnfront wrote:halogen housings are NOT meant for bi-xenon....
I meant dual filament bulbs but had a brain fart ATM. they are DOT certified

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followingnfront wrote:Those ouput pics are impressive i must say. But the problem associated with using mismatched bulbs is glare. They might be brighter, but they may also have stray light that blinds oncoming drivers... That is the big problem with hids. And it is all because of the different optics
I have did some tests of my own and there isnt any glared. I know most if not all PNP HIDs in halogen housing the light will light up the back of signs after you pass them. The LEDs i had didnt do that

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If you do it, post pics... I wanna see. Made it nice and bright on your truck

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yea, if i go that route i will probley put together a review and install guide depending on how it turns out. I created a install guide for the frontier guys because it required modifying the retainer clip that holds the bulbs in place.

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JB'sRogue wrote:Here is a fun fact for those that mmeaow...most halogen housing for a bi-xenon light are designed so any light hitting the top secthaleflectors directs light down and out. Any light hitting the bottom half of the housing projects the light wide and straight for high beams. The manufacturer of the bulbs i would purchase has done alot of R&D to make sure they are safe.
Halogen reflectors are designed For the position of the filaments in the bulbs and how they shine out. Same goes for hid reflectors and hid bulbs. Neither are meant to be used in a housing that is not meant for it... And the same goes for LED... And i dont know what you meant but halogen housings are NOT meant for bi-xenon....

It doesnt matter how much "r&d" the company did... It is illegal to use bulbs of different optics in halogen housings.... If this company's bulbs are not dot sae certified to be used as halogen bulb replacements then they arent legit
FYI: DOT certified just means that installing them in your car will not damage your vehicle. Many aftermarket Xenon/HID and LED headlight conversions that are DOT certified are not technically street legal...

http://genesisforums.org/hyundai-genesi ... legal.html

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Technically it is not safe to install Hid bulbs in halogen housings in halogen housings without the proper wiring and ballasts....

And I dont think the DOT is qualified to determine if, or cares if your car will burn up if you swap in those bulbs. That Genesis thread sounded like the guys own interpretation of "dot certified" not backed up by actual facts.

I believe when a bulb is DOT/SAE certified that means it is based properly and it doesnt send light shooting everywhere... DOT/SAE cert. Is all about performance and safety on the road


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