LED turn signals?

[sniper27]

Can the rear turn signal bulbs be changed to LEDs? I Know with my Audi, it throws error codes and the car thinks the bulb is broken.

[Guju Rider]

i believe you can as long as their is a load equalizer soldered to it.. because either one of 2 things can happen..it'll either blink faster than normal or not at all because its LED and takes less power..this is what i was told when i wanted to do all LED's on my 02 accord v6 and im sure it is the same since the bulb is a normal bulb.

[cjs37xs]

Yes you can. I installed some on mine, along with the load equalizers to regulate the flash rate back to normal. I spliced in the load resistors on each side, and connected the other end of the resistor to the car body. It is a relatively quick install, and finishes the led look in the back.

I love 'em!

[sniper27]

Yes you can. I installed some on mine, along with the load equalizers to regulate the flash rate back to normal. I spliced in the load resistors on each side, and connected the other end of the resistor to the car body. It is a relatively quick install, and finishes the led look in the back.

I love 'em!

do you know the bulb size or where to get them? and the load resistors? thx.

[Guju Rider]

the bulb size is 7440..and i think you can find them on ebay as a package auction...but if not i guess you'll have to get them separately.unless someone here knows about someone who sells them together and has good quality stuff.

[sniper27]

Yes you can. I installed some on mine, along with the load equalizers to regulate the flash rate back to normal. I spliced in the load resistors on each side, and connected the other end of the resistor to the car body. It is a relatively quick install, and finishes the led look in the back.

I love 'em!

did you get red leds or white ones since the original bulbs were clear? how did they turn out? pretty bright?

also, is there an easier way to get to the bulb besides ripping the trunk liner apart?

[Guju Rider]

sniper27..you have a good question..after posting on here and reading up on this..im thinking of going all LED..i've already done the inside of the car..trunk..and license plate..along with the front side markers. now im going to finish it off with the blinkers (front and rear) with the load equalizer.

here's how i see it..the filament 7440 bulb is clear and emits a halogen colored light. LED's are also clear but they emit whatever color you choose. But then seeing that the tail lights are already red one would ask the same question you did. I think that getting white LED's would give it a light red/pinkish color since LED are much brighter than the filament bulbs. But then if you get the red LED's you might be left with a darker red than your tail lights. I'm going to go with the red 7440's up front and amber 7440's in the head light..ill take some pictures and either post on here or just create a new thread. im also going to try and do a before and after movie clip of the front and rear blinkers and side markers. and then after ill take one with all the LED blinkers and the blinker mod..but i'll probably just post that on youtube and paste a link in the thread...give me some time..about a week or something...to get the pictures..but the video will be a little bit longer.

[sniper27]

sniper27..you have a good question..after posting on here and reading up on this..im thinking of going all LED..i've already done the inside of the car..trunk..and license plate..along with the front side markers. now im going to finish it off with the blinkers (front and rear) with the load equalizer.

here's how i see it..the filament 7440 bulb is clear and emits a halogen colored light. LED's are also clear but they emit whatever color you choose. But then seeing that the tail lights are already red one would ask the same question you did. I think that getting white LED's would give it a light red/pinkish color since LED are much brighter than the filament bulbs. But then if you get the red LED's you might be left with a darker red than your tail lights. I'm going to go with the red 7440's up front and amber 7440's in the head light..ill take some pictures and either post on here or just create a new thread. im also going to try and do a before and after movie clip of the front and rear blinkers and side markers. and then after ill take one with all the LED blinkers and the blinker mod..but i'll probably just post that on youtube and paste a link in the thread...give me some time..about a week or something...to get the pictures..but the video will be a little bit longer.

after some reading, i went with the red LEDs. I actually installed the rear blinkers today, however, took them off because they were not as bright as I liked. Got everything working fine with the load resistors, however, during the day, i could not see the blinkers very well. Let me know how yours turn out and what bulb you used. The ones i used were 9 LED 7440s.

[cjs37xs]

sniper27..you have a good question..after posting on here and reading up on this..im thinking of going all LED..i've already done the inside of the car..trunk..and license plate..along with the front side markers. now im going to finish it off with the blinkers (front and rear) with the load equalizer.

here's how i see it..the filament 7440 bulb is clear and emits a halogen colored light. LED's are also clear but they emit whatever color you choose. But then seeing that the tail lights are already red one would ask the same question you did. I think that getting white LED's would give it a light red/pinkish color since LED are much brighter than the filament bulbs. But then if you get the red LED's you might be left with a darker red than your tail lights. I'm going to go with the red 7440's up front and amber 7440's in the head light..ill take some pictures and either post on here or just create a new thread. im also going to try and do a before and after movie clip of the front and rear blinkers and side markers. and then after ill take one with all the LED blinkers and the blinker mod..but i'll probably just post that on youtube and paste a link in the thread...give me some time..about a week or something...to get the pictures..but the video will be a little bit longer.

First of all, sorry it took me a while to get back...I only seem to check here when I'm at work (weird, huh?).

gujurider - Can I set your red/clear thinking straight? I went with the white LED's, because if you get red...the lens is red, and it ONLY has red light to give, which is then filtered by a red lens. Think of an old game (about to reveal that I am OLD! ); Password. When you looked at the card, all you saw were the red squiggly lines, but when you used the red tinted sheet, it took out all the red, and showed you the word below. You are almost canceling what light has been given from the red led. Kind of counterproductive, no?
If you have a white bulb (or in this case LED light), then the tail lens takes this white light (or the whole color spectrum) and passes through ALL of the red light. All of the light that it can give to you is passed through the lens. Choosing a red bulb will diminish that effect considerably, and thus loss of brightness.

In one quick and easy to understand statement: If you want it brightest, get the white led.

I went with a company called v-leds.com. Their prices are competitive with other companies, but the people reviewing them have really expressed their happiness with this company over others. The lights last longer, they won't give you any grief if one of them goes out quickly (I'm not sure what their warranty period is on these, ~6 months? Can't find the receipt to verify this anymore), and they will answer tech questions if you have 'em. I didn't buy the load resistors when I got the lights (oops, my mistake), so when I first installed them, they obviously blinked way too fast. But now, I didn't want to wait for them to be shipped to me and wait 4-5 days to finally get them. So I ended up going to a local electronics parts store (NOT Radio Shack, as they are losers and don't know squat about actual electronics), and purchased the load resistors there. The installation was relatively easy, but if I could have waited until the temp was above 30 degrees, it may have been a lot easier. But I just couldn't!

And, no...there isn't an easier way to do it, just gotta get that trunk liner opened up to get to the taillights.

But like I said before, I love them. And they are bright! I will sometimes 're-lock' the car from a window inside the building here at work just to see them in their bright glory! I want to do the front turn signals & fog lights, but there seems to be quite a lot of work involved to just replace a bulb in this car especially in the front, and I want to ensure that when I do, I get the same color temp as the headlights...so they 'match'.

If you guys/gals have any questions about this, I promise to reply quicker next time!

-Chad

[Guju Rider]

do your fog lights also work as your high beams also because i've heard that they arent very luminous as high beams and dont really help when being used as a fog light (as far as lighting up the road as needed, they are just bright)? Because that is how the lights are set up in the G that i have (fog lights and high beam share a single housing and a HB2/9003 bulb) I only say this because i have a friend who drives s mazda 3 and he has the 9006 LED fog light bulbs, and they arent that great, but if you have a different experience, that'd be nice. Let me know how that works out

[sniper27]

First of all, sorry it took me a while to get back...I only seem to check here when I'm at work (weird, huh?).

gujurider - Can I set your red/clear thinking straight? I went with the white LED's, because if you get red...the lens is red, and it ONLY has red light to give, which is then filtered by a red lens. Think of an old game (about to reveal that I am OLD! ); Password. When you looked at the card, all you saw were the red squiggly lines, but when you used the red tinted sheet, it took out all the red, and showed you the word below. You are almost canceling what light has been given from the red led. Kind of counterproductive, no?
If you have a white bulb (or in this case LED light), then the tail lens takes this white light (or the whole color spectrum) and passes through ALL of the red light. All of the light that it can give to you is passed through the lens. Choosing a red bulb will diminish that effect considerably, and thus loss of brightness.

In one quick and easy to understand statement: If you want it brightest, get the white led.

I went with a company called v-leds.com. Their prices are competitive with other companies, but the people reviewing them have really expressed their happiness with this company over others. The lights last longer, they won't give you any grief if one of them goes out quickly (I'm not sure what their warranty period is on these, ~6 months? Can't find the receipt to verify this anymore), and they will answer tech questions if you have 'em. I didn't buy the load resistors when I got the lights (oops, my mistake), so when I first installed them, they obviously blinked way too fast. But now, I didn't want to wait for them to be shipped to me and wait 4-5 days to finally get them. So I ended up going to a local electronics parts store (NOT Radio Shack, as they are losers and don't know squat about actual electronics), and purchased the load resistors there. The installation was relatively easy, but if I could have waited until the temp was above 30 degrees, it may have been a lot easier. But I just couldn't!

And, no...there isn't an easier way to do it, just gotta get that trunk liner opened up to get to the taillights.

But like I said before, I love them. And they are bright! I will sometimes 're-lock' the car from a window inside the building here at work just to see them in their bright glory! I want to do the front turn signals & fog lights, but there seems to be quite a lot of work involved to just replace a bulb in this car especially in the front, and I want to ensure that when I do, I get the same color temp as the headlights...so they 'match'.

If you guys/gals have any questions about this, I promise to reply quicker next time!

-Chad

does your load resistors get insanely hot? i had the red leds on for about 5 minutes with it flashing and when i went to take it off, it was BLAZING hot. burned my finger actually. do you have any problems with the heat? i actually got my load resistors from V-Led. I may just pickup a set of white LEDs to see if they are brighter. but the red definitely wasn't bright enough.

[cjs37xs]

I didn't ever really notice the heat from the load resistors, but I would certainly affix them on the car where it wouldn't do any damage to the other side of the metal (ie: the painted exterior of the car). That is what I did. If I recall correctly, there is a double wall on the inside of the trunk. It can get hot...that is what it's built for, to take the load off of the bulb. That resistor needs to be on the metal body of the car somewhere too, so it can dissipate the heat created in the circuit, given to the resistor, which in turn is dissipated by the large metal surface it is on.

I will check the actual location of mine at my lunchtime...

[cjs37xs]

do your fog lights also work as your high beams also because i've heard that they arent very luminous as high beams and dont really help when being used as a fog light (as far as lighting up the road as needed, they are just bright)? Because that is how the lights are set up in the G that i have (fog lights and high beam share a single housing and a HB2/9003 bulb) I only say this because i have a friend who drives s mazda 3 and he has the 9006 LED fog light bulbs, and they arent that great, but if you have a different experience, that'd be nice. Let me know how that works out

No they are separate. If you have the lights & fogs on, when you switch to the high beams, the fog lights are switched off. They illuminate the road fine, I just don't like how when they are on...it has 2 bulbs on, and they are different shades of white...the HID of the headlight, and the 'yellowish-white' of the halogen. They are in the same housing, but the fog lights are located on the inner bottom part of the array.
I traded in my '06 Mazda3 for this car, and really liked the fogs on that car.

[crownautotrim.com]

WOW! This is really good info. I have been installing the Putco lights I sell for a while now with good results too

[crownautotrim.com]

WOW! This is really good info. I have been installing the Putco lights I sell for a while now with good results too

[cjs37xs]

WOW! This is really good info. I have been installing the Putco lights I sell for a while now with good results too

I have never heard of putco until just now. Looks like they back their stuff up too. The thing that sold me on v-leds was the reviews submitted by customers. I love new stuff, but only to the extent that I am not the guinea pig on things.

[sniper27]

I didn't ever really notice the heat from the load resistors, but I would certainly affix them on the car where it wouldn't do any damage to the other side of the metal (ie: the painted exterior of the car). That is what I did. If I recall correctly, there is a double wall on the inside of the trunk. It can get hot...that is what it's built for, to take the load off of the bulb. That resistor needs to be on the metal body of the car somewhere too, so it can dissipate the heat created in the circuit, given to the resistor, which in turn is dissipated by the large metal surface it is on.

I will check the actual location of mine at my lunchtime...

if you could, can you take a picture of your install? also, which bulb did you get? the ones with the 9 leds pointed straight and 6 radially? or some other type of 7440?


1 pair LEDoption T20 7440 LED bulbs in Amber Yellow, Ultra Blue, Xenon White or Brilliant Red colors.

The LEDoption T20 7440 LED bulb has 9 LED emitters that will produce a super bright and cool color. High quality is our promise.

The T20 7440 LED bulbs will fit 7440 housings, generally used for corner signal blinker lights, backup reverse lights, tail brake stop lights, etc.
or


1 pair LEDoption T20 7440 18 counts SMD LED bulbs in Amber Yellow, Brilliant Red, Ultra Blue and Xenon White colors.

The LEDoption T20 7440 SMD LED bulb has 18 5050 SMD LED emitters that will produce a super bright and cool color. High quality is our promise.

The T20 7440 SMD LED bulbs will fit 7440 992A housings, generally used for corner signal blinker lights, backup reverse lights, tail brake stop lights, etc.
or


1 pair LEDoption T20 7440 40 counts SMD LED bulbs in Brilliant Red or Xenon White color.

The LEDoption T20 7440 40-SMD LED bulb has 40 pieces high power 1210 SMD LED emitters that will produce a super bright and cool color. High quality is our promise.

The T20 7440 40-SMD LED bulbs will fit 7440 or 992A housings, generally used for corner signal blinker lights, backup reverse lights, tail brake stop lights, etc.
thanks

[cjs37xs]

I got these: http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Turn ... 2-1-2.html

Or a VERY similar set. I have my G at home today, since it has been doing some weird sunny & windy/sprinkling rain mixed with dirt thing here in CO. for the last 2 days. (nothing like a fresh coat of dirt on your car...I hear it's good for your complexion). I will post up some pics as soon as I get the laziness out of my arse. And learn how to do it!

[Guju Rider]

so 4 LED bulbs and 2 resistors and the resistors can be either somewhere on front of the car or rear, which ever may be more convenient. so should i just mount both of the resistors in the back so one resistor takes car of the left side and the other takes care of the right side or should i mount one in the front to take care of the front blinkers and one in the rear for the rear blinkers?

[cjs37xs]

I think mine are actually 8-ohm, as they didn't have the 6-ohm. Which ever one will give the circuit the properties of having a traditional bulb on the circuit. I'm not sure why they would recommend the lower resistance for more led's... I think I would get the higher ohm res., since that makes more sense in my melon...

It certainly shouldn't matter which end you put the resistor on either, like you said, whichever is more convenient for you.

[sniper27]

wait, i thought you need a resistor for each bulb? you mean if i have a resistor for the left rear blinker, i don't need one for the left front blinker if i choose to do the front too? btw, i got the 6ohm 50 watts one and it worked. like i said, it just got crazy hot...but sounds like that's normal.

[cjs37xs]

I just looked at the v-leds site, and they say to have a load resistor for each bulb.

This makes sense...if you have the front burned out, the car will blink s-l-o-w-l-y. If the rear is out then it goes really fast. At least that has been my experience, your results may vary. Easy, sniper! Don't pull that trigger! A resistor for each bulb.

---Also, I forgot to ask you sniper. When you have those signals on, and they get hot...where in the real world do you have your turn signals on for like 5 minutes or more? I have been through some long lights in my day...but I would think that a couple minutes per turn is gonna be the norm....just sayin...

[cjs37xs]

GAWD! It is not my day for photography. I run home since the weather is better....(and I am in such HIGH DEMAND here at work!), grab the G and the camera. Get back and make the 'cameo' inside the building... open up the trunk and start shifting things around so I can do some photos. The wife APPARENTLY took out the battery to charge it up for the camera...

So now I have everything out of my trunk, in the back seats, a couple of the tabs loose in the cupholder, and a battery-less camera. Might be a little TOO bold to go home again, just to get a battery...hmm. I should probably save it for later. Maybe it's a message from the boss to GET TO WORK!

[sniper27]

lol...i know i won't have the signals on for 5 min. at least i hope not. i'll pick up a set of white LEDs to see how they turn out. just another thought...is there a way to make the existing LED taillights blink? like the FX? hmm....

[cjs37xs]

The actual tail lights? I have seen that somewhere...I just don't remember where. It would require the removal of the tail light, and likely a lot of tearing things up..namely the tail light itself. Not to mention a control board too.

If I can find it, I will give it a linky...

[sniper27]

so i got those SMD LED bulbs from V-led and got them installed. much brighter than the first ones i got with just the 9 leds pointing forward. thx for all the info.

[Rev_D21]

Red 7440 LEDs behind red lenses on my Millenia.

I don't see any filtering going on. In fact it looks quite classy.
http://www.superbrightleds.com or http://www.autolumination.com

[lettschill32811]

2x 7440 7443 T20 21 LED Brake Turn Light Bulbs White....That is the bulbs I just got but they seem really dim compaired to the fliament bulb...What did I do wrong?? I have not put the load resistors on yet will that make them brighter?

[cjs37xs]

Load resistors won't make it brighter, just regulate the speed of the blinker.

Maybe you put the LED bulbs in backwards? Try putting them in the opposite direction of what you have now...

They have a positive polarity and a negative polarity.

Oh, and welcome to NICO!!!

[lettschill32811]

Load resistors won't make it brighter, just regulate the speed of the blinker.

Maybe you put the LED bulbs in backwards? Try putting them in the opposite direction of what you have now...

They have a positive polarity and a negative polarity.

Oh, and welcome to NICO!!!

Ok I did that and they are still Dim! Someone that has them working needs to let me know where you got them and what kind? Im about to pull what hair I have out! LOL