LE37T on a Black 05 Q45

[PIONEER]

I sold my 20" that I had on my black 02. There are pictures of them floating around on the forums. Axis Mod7 20x9 20x10.

I have a set of Volk LE37T's now in 19x8.5 and 9.5 but after getting the wheels, I'm wondering if they would look allright on the Q. Too sporty for the car maybe? Maybe some Wald or Lexion wheels? Anyone know the Weight on the Wald D23 in 19" stagger setup?

[maxnix]

F**k the looks, the Rays are forged, strong and light.

But maybe too large a diameter to mount the correct tires at that width?

Stagger is for cosmetics only, not performance nor longgevity, with stock power output. If your engine is putting out 400HP, then stagger will have benefits in putting the most rubber back there. Otherwise, without adjustments to the suspension, it will only encourage understeer.

[PIONEER]

You may have a point but I don't like the shopping car look of non stagger wheels. The stagger setup in the rear fills up the hole a little better.

Can't really take the corner hard in the Q. Take a exit fast in a Q and you'll find out quick who's incharge. Slip light, ABS, traction control the whole car takes ownership in a hurry.

[Falkdesigns]

I bone out big time in corners in my Q, not sure about other people. I take my Q on canyon runs, I drive it fast on Mullholland, Sunset, etc, I love going fast in my Q.

F##k looks? F##k that. Looks = Performance = Useability in my book, and yes, you can have a combination of all three, it's not just one or the other.

[maxnix]

You may have a point but I don't like the shopping car look of non stagger wheels. The stagger setup in the rear fills up the hole a little better.

Can't really take the corner hard in the Q. Take a exit fast in a Q and you'll find out quick who's incharge. Slip light, ABS, traction control the whole car takes ownership in a hurry.

All the more reason to avoid stagger if you can't turn that stuff off. Thank you G50 and FY33.

Read Q45tech's posts, and think about dynamic weight distribution. Skinnier tires with a lower load rating will develop understeer more quickly without major spring rate, rollbar, mountings alterations. The whole key to good handling in a stock powered Q45 is the front tire load capacity and tire strength. This is where the liimiting G forces are greatest.

[TgduMg]

Do you remember what the offsets were on the Axis Mod sevens and what are the offsets on the Volk's?

Danisiti 1

[PIONEER]

Do you remember what the offsets were on the Axis Mod sevens and what are the offsets on the Volk's?

Danisiti 1

The Axis are 38 front and 37 rear.

The Volks are 29 front 34 rear

Falkdesigns:- If I take hard corners in my Q, the car will bring itself to a stop and tell me to get out

[HashiriyaS14]

If you've already got them, I say go ahead and put them on the car.

I'd honestly like to see what some Work Meister S1 3pc (Or SSR Prof, but I like the Works more) would look like on an F50.....but you already bought the Volks, so go ahead and put them on the car.

[AZhitman]

hi Pioneer!

I bought your Axis Mods for my G.

I think those 19's will look great and perform just fine.

NOTE: Do NOT skimp on tires (either size or quality). The Q seems to like a wider tire than what TireRack or any of the "lawyer-bound" sources will suggest.

Of course, you knew that already, judging by the steamrollers that just showed up at my house today!

I currently have 255/40/18 P-Zeros on a set of 2004 Premium Q chrome 18" wheels on my 95 Q45t, and am considering going even wider (to gain a little more sidewall and loadrating).

[nismofly]

i dont know how you could say LE37's are "not for looks," but theyll be fine if you ask me...look at the people running 350 track wheels, looks awesome

Looks = Performance = Useability in my book, and yes, you can have a combination of all three, it's not just one or the other.

takes a ton of money to get to the point where this becomes true though, having 100% on all fronts...for example, this car looks amazing and performs just as well, but cost about $15 million to build:



youre more of a "compromise" person

[Falkdesigns]

I didn't say the LE-37's are not for looks, I love those wheels, but I wouldn't run them on a Q. Maxnix said f##k looks, and IMO, you can have looks, you can have performance, and you can have functional useability. I believe that's what I have with my Q: it looks good, it performs good and it works good in a real world day to day basis. Personally, I don't think the track wheels look that good on Q's, but that's just me.

[nismofly]

I didn't say the LE-37's are not for looks, I love those wheels, but I wouldn't run them on a Q. Maxnix said f##k looks, and IMO, you can have looks, you can have performance, and you can have functional useability. I believe that's what I have with my Q: it looks good, it performs good and it works good in a real world day to day basis. Personally, I don't think the track wheels look that good on Q's, but that's just me.

true, like i said, youre a compromise person, you value looks more than performance, but still care about performance

theres people who value the performance part, but still care about looks, these are your people who actually mod and drive corvettes, vipers, porsches, m3's, and several cars out of japan

to a lesser extent thats what i am, and theres plenty of 240 owners who care more about looks than me, but still value performance just the same

then theres people who care about nothing but performance, these are where your 500 awhp 4g63 suzuki swifts and those v8 or twin engine focuses come from

then theres the people who own cars for the sole purpose of enlarging their genitalia, these are the vast majority of exotic and luxury drivers

[Falkdesigns]

I don't consider myself a compromise person. I don't value looks more than performance, I value them equally. I know what you're saying though.

[PIONEER]

hi Pioneer!

I bought your Axis Mods for my G.

I think those 19's will look great and perform just fine.

NOTE: Do NOT skimp on tires (either size or quality). The Q seems to like a wider tire than what TireRack or any of the "lawyer-bound" sources will suggest.

Of course, you knew that already, judging by the steamrollers that just showed up at my house today!

I currently have 255/40/18 P-Zeros on a set of 2004 Premium Q chrome 18" wheels on my 95 Q45t, and am considering going even wider (to gain a little more sidewall and loadrating).

Hey Greg, I hope you enjoy the wheels. was the packing intact or was it all tore up by the time it got to you.

I'm looking into the tire option for the LE37T if that is the route I end up taking. I'm thinking S03 or PS2. RE050 is another option. I want some quiet tires. No rubber slapping the road action.

[maxnix]

Fashion vs. Function

...for example, this car looks amazing and performs just as well, but cost about $15 million to build:

Won't fly in the ghetto. No lip on the rimz.

[Falkdesigns]

100% function, and a nice deep lip for the ghettos they race them in, you know, ghettos like Monaco

[nismofly]

and to think, theyre only $16,000 a set

[maxnix]

And 15" wide! I would say $16K as set is cheap as they are probably forged magnesium.

Of course the lack of lights, a horn and fenders might get you in a little trouble with the gendarmes along the Autoroute, non?

[nismofly]

yep, they weigh 2.6 lbs for the fronts, 3.1 for the rears

they do have tail lights, just no head lights

and personally i think a 21,000 rpm 2.4L V8 is good for a horn, if youve never heard those cars before youre missing out, loudest cars you will *ever* hear, that includes top fuel dragsters

[Falkdesigns]

...trouble with the gendarmes along the Autoroute, non?

zen zen wakarimasen.

They are without a doubt the loudest cars you'll ever here, simply amazing sounds, I went to an F1 race in 1995 when the Ferraris still had the V12s, that was such sweet music. Top Fuel is loud as hell, but it's only 4.25 seconds and then it's quite again.

[AZhitman]

Hey Greg, I hope you enjoy the wheels. was the packing intact or was it all tore up by the time it got to you.

Packing was great. Held up real well.

Unfortunately, one of the center caps came off in transit and rattled around behind the cardboard and demolished the finish on the face and lip of one of the wheels (scratches, chips, ugh...)

I'm gonna look into having the centers powdercoated charcoal grey, but so far no shop in town will touch them (because of the masking and rivets).

[3Q Jay]

I currently have 255/40/18 P-Zeros on a set of 2004 Premium Q chrome 18" wheels on my 95 Q45t, and am considering going even wider (to gain a little more sidewall and loadrating).

so, at the risk of starting a war here.... a 255 on 7.5" (i think the f50 is 7.5!??) would pinch--no? i'm not a lawyer nor tire rack, just wanna know if this is really viable. i'm picking up 8X18 FX rims, and would like the option of a 255/40.......

[AZhitman]

Well, if you're getting 18x8's, what difference does it make?

255/40/18 will be a sweet fitment on those new wheels.

Although, I'd see no problem with them on a 7.5" wheel. Like I said before, I had 255/50/16's on 16x7's and everyone raved about them.

[maxnix]

They are without a doubt the loudest cars you'll ever here, simply amazing sounds, I went to an F1 race in 1995 when the Ferraris still had the V12s, that was such sweet music. Top Fuel is loud as hell, but it's only 4.25 seconds and then it's quite again.

Nothing like the wail of a V12. Even the V10 were not too bad, but not the same harmonics either.

I think they ought to go back to the early to mid sixties formula where the engines were 1.5L and there were no ground effects. Now they are just using ¾ of the horsepower to push around air plows.

[97Q45t]

I think the LE-37's will look nice on a dark color car. Here's a pic of my friend's old M45 with the LE-37. Any chance the wheels you bought was from Houston?

[AZhitman]

^ *sigh*....

Sexy. Damn sexy.

[PIONEER]

^ *sigh*....

Sexy. Damn sexy.

Greg, check your PM on my350z.

[Jesda]

I think the LE-37's will look nice on a dark color car. Here's a pic of my friend's old M45 with the LE-37. Any chance the wheels you bought was from Houston?

You owe me new pants.

[Jeff Williams]

Do this, Divide the tire size number (255) by 25.4, and you will get "Tread Width" In this case, the tread width is about 10"

Now, look at your rim width (7") and multiply by 25.4. In this case, you get about 177.8.

This gives you the difference in width (77.2 MM, or about 3")

Now divide that by 2 (because the tire will fit evenly on the rim, and stick out the same on both sides. This leaves the tire sticking beyond the rim about 1.5".

If you have a 40 series tire, then the sidewall will be about 40% of the width, or 102 MM, which translates to about 4".

Using basic geomerty, you have a triangle with the base 4" and the height 1". Using a right angle for the equation, give you a bead angle of 20.73 degrees.

Math is fun!

http://www.1728.com/pythgorn.htm

I am running 275 MM tires, with a 35% sidewall on a 9" rim. What is the bead angle? I came up with 13.55 degrees.

I like my bead angle much better than Greg's. (Not that his was bad or anything).

I don't think I could go much wider in the rear, with the 45 MM offset. The tire is a finger width (about 20 MM)away from the strut/spring. If I went with a 295 rear tire, I would need about a 40 MM rear offset wheel.

[elwesso]

I don't think I could go much wider in the rear, with the 45 MM offset. The tire is a finger width (about 20 MM)away from the strut/spring. If I went with a 295 rear tire, I would need about a 40 MM rear offset wheel.

and youd probably be rubbing on the fender.