Ladies, read this before getting an abortion.

[dusred]

http://hollyonthehill.wordpress.com/201 ... -license/w

In short a Utah Doctor put a young girl in critical condition after botching an abortion. As the doctor went to suck the babies brains out (just assuming) she screwed up and punctured the Teen's uterus and cut her bowel. Police raid the abortion clinic and find 35 aborted babies in a freezer.

I'm a pretty chill dude most the time but stories like this make me want to hit someone (which I have never actually done). Abominable.

[themadscientist]

Reality doesn't shock me anymore.

When abortion is the equivalent to getting a wart froze off at a shopping mall doctor in some people's minds are you really that surprised?

[IBCoupe]

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Alder_Hey_organ ... ?qsrc=3044

Parents, read this before taking your kid to a hospital!

[vikesfankevin1986]

I didn't see an article when I clicked the link...here is my question tho...was she licensed to do abortions? (assuming they are legal because I don't even know) and even if she was, how is this news? Medical procedures go wrong all the time. There is risk in anything you do. Kanye West's mom died getting new titties...So should we warn girls before they get fake tits? Now if this happens all the time, that's a problem.

Note...I won't be on again until late tonight.

[stebo0728]

I have to say, as much as I abhor the notion of abortion as a form of birth control, its a bit dicey to take instances like this and use them to argue against it, because as mentioned already, any medical procedure has its risks. BUT I do agree with making this sort of information available to people considering the procedure as a mean to warn them against possible side effects. Now the practice of partial birth abortion is just absolutely abominable all the way around, and should never be tolerated by law in my opinion.

Heres my thing on abortion, and Im gonna steer away from the religion aspect, I dont think there is much relevence in it. Anyone who considers abortion to NOT be killing or ending a life is just retarded. Now we have all sorts of forms of condoned killing, death penalty for instance, or possibly in the future assisted suicide. SO do we consider abortion to be a form of condoned killing? That is the question to ask, and the statement we should make. Stop making up goofy excuses that try to deny the life that most definitely exists. Now for me, how do I combat abortion since personally I dont agree with it? I think its more about education, and prevention. If the child is never conceived in the first place, then there is no need to worry about whether its moral or ethical or whatever to abort the child. Lets focus on stopping the pregnancies before they happen.

Furthermore I get completely disgusted by the conservatives who have great idea for this nation, and get completely and utterly infatuated with ending abortion and changing law that isnt going to be changed. They forget about the economy, they forget about immigration reform, they forget about taxation reform, and go apesh*t over stuff they have no prayer of doing anything about unless we manage to get like 4 more hardline conservative minds on the supreme court, and that aint happening.

[IBCoupe]

Abortion is an issue about competing rights. I'm sure most of you know that, but there are many who want to frame it as a matter of one right or the other, and the fact is that we can recognize both and still come to a conclusion: an individual has the right to not have their life extinguished by another person, and a person also has the right not to have the government inside their body.

I happen to come out on the left side of the issue in that I'm more eager to enforce limits on government's ability to restrict an individual's right than I am to punish individuals for limiting a probably-future-citizen's right. If abortion is murder and a sin, it will be punished in the proper jurisdiction.

Often we'll try to compare the two rights at stake: life or control of one's life. The former is often, by those opposed to abortion, given greater value than the latter, but I tend to see them as equal. Really, what's one without the other?

And so if we come to the conclusion that they are just about equally important, we have to then decide either who we like more, or whose power we like less. I honestly don't care - the mother and potential-child are worth the same to me (I really don't give a crap about either one of them), but individual and government power, on the other hand, have greatly differing values in my mind. I'm often suspicious of the application of the former, and I'm frequently scared of the application of the latter.

What bothers me is when people try to incorporate morality into the formula, to the extent that they want to say a certain behavior (besides the actual abortion) is bad. I'm talking about people calling for personal responsibility, for women to be more chaste, for people not to have sex unless they want a child, etc. In my mind, that's not something we ought to be considering when trying to craft a national policy.

[heliochrome85]

http://hollyonthehill.wordpress.com/201 ... -license/w

In short a Utah Doctor put a young girl in critical condition after botching an abortion. As the doctor went to suck the babies brains out (just assuming) she screwed up and punctured the Teen's uterus and cut her bowel. Police raid the abortion clinic and find 35 aborted babies in a freezer.

I'm a pretty chill dude most the time but stories like this make me want to hit someone (which I have never actually done). Abominable.

the sad thing is because of the way abortion is viewed in this country, most medical schools do not teach how to properly administer an abortion. mine certainly didnt, and i cant say i know of anyone who is in medical school, or has recently graduated, who knows how to perform one.

[n00b240]

the sad thing is because of the way abortion is viewed in this country, most medical schools do not teach how to properly administer an abortion. mine certainly didnt, and i cant say i know of anyone who is in medical school, or has recently graduated, who knows how to perform one.

LOL +1. Aside from the 2 drugs listed in first aid. I couldnt tell you squat. How does one even become specialized in abortions? There aren't any residency programs, and ob/gyn doesnt even touch it.

[srellim234]

It's unfortunate, too, because there are times when the majority of the people feel that it would be justified, maybe even necessary. Rape and the threatened health of the mother come to mind. Someone should be properly trained to perform those limited case abortions in the future.

[heliochrome85]

the sad thing is because of the way abortion is viewed in this country, most medical schools do not teach how to properly administer an abortion. mine certainly didnt, and i cant say i know of anyone who is in medical school, or has recently graduated, who knows how to perform one.

LOL +1. Aside from the 2 drugs listed in first aid. I couldnt tell you squat. How does one even become specialized in abortions? There aren't any residency programs, and ob/gyn doesnt even touch it.

yeah, i think its part of SOME ob/gyn residencys these days, but not all. and yeah, the two drugs are about all that ive learned.

[audtatious]

the sad thing is because of the way abortion is viewed in this country, most medical schools do not teach how to properly administer an abortion. mine certainly didnt, and i cant say i know of anyone who is in medical school, or has recently graduated, who knows how to perform one.

[stebo0728]

I mentioned condoned acts of killing, one would be stoning the tool that did this:

[IBCoupe]

Ha! The horsehead nebula! I see what they did there.

[heliochrome85]

how did you find a picture of diamondj30s girlfriend?

[wingFeather]

[audtatious]

how did you find a picture of diamondj30s girlfriend?

At a synagogue where she works servicing the Rabbi

[heliochrome85]

At a synagogue where she works servicing the Rabbi

he must make it short work for her.

[audtatious]

At a synagogue where she works servicing the Rabbi

he must make it short work for her.

[themadscientist]

I mentioned condoned acts of killing, one would be stoning the tool that did this:

That is NPH's Z!