kyb agx and eibach sportlines?

[d240sx]

anyone know the ride quality for kyb agx with eibach sportlines. right now i have gr-2 with tein s tech, but haven't installed them yet.
Modified by d240sx at 11:04 PM 12/26/2004

[574-240sx]

anyone know the ride quality for kyb agx with eibach sportlines. right now i have gr-2 with tein s tech, but haven't installed them yet.

I currently have the AGX/sportline combo. Its stiff enough for autocross and fine for daily on the softer settings. Any thing more than autox such as drifting they suck. On the gr-2 you have to watch them carefully if you are lowering the car more than a inch.

[240DRFT]

if you're looking for sportlines i know where u can find them (see sig)

[d240sx]

o i can get kyb agx with sportlines for 250 bucks from a friend but he has never tested them, because he currently getting his friend from raretrick.com to get the sr20 started for me to buy, right now it sitting on the agx with sportlines which i dont think i want to include it in the deal.

after reading some forums on the sportlines with agx....it seems not a good idea to get them. yet i dont really want to buy his agx that means i would need to buy eibachs and end up selling my gr-2 with the eibachs.

thinking about putting the tien s tech with the gr-2 on to see how it goes.....i read some good and bads on it, but if there is someone out there who had already tried this....tell me the ride quality on it. (i just need a decent drop ride compared to stock plan on getting coilovers in a year or two)

[Jookmasta]

just save ur money and get the coilovers in a year or two then; doesnt really make sense to spend the money twice and altho that is a great deal, if ur gonna do something, just do it right the first time.

Personally, i think ur setup will depend on what ur doing with ur car or if the lowering height is a big issue.

[d240sx]

yeah, talked to my friend today about it, told him i decided to put on the gr-2 w/ tiens. Right now i'm just looking to drop my car with shocks that can handle a 1.5 drop in the front and 1.2 in the back.

[Slappy]

anyone know the ride quality for kyb agx with eibach sportlines. right now i have gr-2 with tein s tech, but haven't installed them yet.

Modified by d240sx at 11:04 PM 12/26/2004

a full set of RSR race springs and KYB GR2 shocks are on sale for $442 shipped.or individual prices are:RSR race sus - $204 shippedfront pair GR2 - $129 shippedrear pair GR2 - $109 shipped you can order online here:http://turboimport.com/catalog/240sx.htm

[Exar-Kun]

the RSR race springs will blow those crappe GR-2 dampers out in NO time.

[skydragoness]

the RSR race springs will blow those crappe GR-2 dampers out in NO time.

Damn straight. The KYB GR2's are NOT meant to be coupled with lowering springs they are OE upgrades ONLY.

If you plan to run Sportlines on *any* kind of KYB shock, do plan to replace your shocks at least once a year (for a daily driver that sees varying road conditions). If you don't mind replacing shocks often, then do disregard the following.

Everytime these Sportline spring questions come up, i have to chime in. I run KYB agx's, and i previously ran Sportlines (keyword: previously). My front shocks blew within a year exactly. Why? Because the drop for the Sportlines is about 2.1" in the front, which if you read KYB AGX's warranty information the warranty is VOID if you lower your vehicle more than 1.5'. They know their shocks are being used for lowering and they know their limits. I was misinformed at the time, as the Sportlines were quite the popular spring set for 240's.

The KYB agx's dampening rate cannot handle a ridiculous drop such as the Sportlines', not to mention they are progressive springs. The GR2's are intended to be a oe replacement shock so they won't tolerate lowering springs either. To be on the safe side, look only at spring sets that lower conservatively, such as the Eibach Pro-kit, the Tein's you already have, H&R, or Suspension Tech springs (what i run now). Or go with coilovers like someone else mentioned. The Tein's you have are a good choice, ditch the GR2's and get AGX's or Koni's. The difference between a 1.5" and a 2.1" drop is BARELY noticeable, and your shocks will thank you and last longer.

[Exar-Kun]

Damn straight. The KYB GR2's are NOT meant to be coupled with lowering springs they are OE upgrades ONLY.

If you plan to run Sportlines on *any* kind of KYB shock, do plan to replace your shocks at least once a year (for a daily driver that sees varying road conditions). If you don't mind replacing shocks often, then do disregard the following.

Everytime these Sportline spring questions come up, i have to chime in. I run KYB agx's, and i previously ran Sportlines (keyword: previously). My front shocks blew within a year exactly. Why? Because the drop for the Sportlines is about 2.1" in the front, which if you read KYB AGX's warranty information the warranty is VOID if you lower your vehicle more than 1.5'. They know their shocks are being used for lowering and they know their limits. I was misinformed at the time, as the Sportlines were quite the popular spring set for 240's.

The KYB agx's dampening rate cannot handle a ridiculous drop such as the Sportlines', not to mention they are progressive springs. The GR2's are intended to be a oe replacement shock so they won't tolerate lowering springs either. To be on the safe side, look only at spring sets that lower conservatively, such as the Eibach Pro-kit, the Tein's you already have, H&R, or Suspension Tech springs (what i run now). Or go with coilovers like someone else mentioned. The Tein's you have are a good choice, ditch the GR2's and get AGX's or Koni's. The difference between a 1.5" and a 2.1" drop is BARELY noticeable, and your shocks will thank you and last longer.

Correct she is. She speaks seldomly, but when she does, it's important.

[Slappy]

Damn straight. The KYB GR2's are NOT meant to be coupled with lowering springs they are OE upgrades ONLY.

If you plan to run Sportlines on *any* kind of KYB shock, do plan to replace your shocks at least once a year (for a daily driver that sees varying road conditions). If you don't mind replacing shocks often, then do disregard the following.

Everytime these Sportline spring questions come up, i have to chime in. I run KYB agx's, and i previously ran Sportlines (keyword: previously). My front shocks blew within a year exactly. Why? Because the drop for the Sportlines is about 2.1" in the front, which if you read KYB AGX's warranty information the warranty is VOID if you lower your vehicle more than 1.5'. They know their shocks are being used for lowering and they know their limits. I was misinformed at the time, as the Sportlines were quite the popular spring set for 240's.

The KYB agx's dampening rate cannot handle a ridiculous drop such as the Sportlines', not to mention they are progressive springs. The GR2's are intended to be a oe replacement shock so they won't tolerate lowering springs either. To be on the safe side, look only at spring sets that lower conservatively, such as the Eibach Pro-kit, the Tein's you already have, H&R, or Suspension Tech springs (what i run now). Or go with coilovers like someone else mentioned. The Tein's you have are a good choice, ditch the GR2's and get AGX's or Koni's. The difference between a 1.5" and a 2.1" drop is BARELY noticeable, and your shocks will thank you and last longer.

it seem's i've been misinformed myself. if i buy the RS*R race spring's, i should go with koni's ? is there a certain model of koni's i should go with? or should i not buy RS*R at all...........****, now i'm confused.

[Kansei240sx]

I have GR-2's with R1 racing springs, holy jesus it is so stiff.... makes for a bumpy ride ( rough road ) But on smooth roads and smooth curves it is sooooo nice... Mine have been around for at least a year, and no sign of them going out at all.... It might help that i have front and rear strut bars as well....

[Kaizen]

I'm running AGX's with RSR race springs for a year now autocrossing and daily driving, about 18,000 miles. No Problems or concerns so far.

Ride quality is ok with no back pains. Just a comparison to the softer sportlines.

[BadMojo]

FWIW, KYB has said that the bump and rebound on GR2's is roughly equivalent to KYB AGX's set at 2 in the front and 4 in the rear. There's a post about that somewhere here on NICO.

Quite frankly, I'm shocked that the AGX's could handle the RSR "race" springs for 18,000 miles. I'd be curious to see if KYB would honor the warranty on the AGXs with those springs.

When I asked, Koni said that their Sport shocks could handle those RSR springs, no problem, no warranty issues. Then again, that could have just been the BS marketing answer.

[BadMojo]

it seem's i've been misinformed myself. if i buy the RS*R race spring's, i should go with koni's ? is there a certain model of koni's i should go with? or should i not buy RS*R at all...........****, now i'm confused.

Koni only makes one model for our cars. It's the Koni Sport. They also do custom valving, but I think that's one of those "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" deals.

Be aware that the Koni Sport dampers are inserts in the front (you basically have to cut your OE strut in half and bolt the the Koni insert in) and the Koni Sports in the rear are *not* adjustable while on the car. Still, they're a highly regarded product.

[Slappy]

screw all that B.S, i'll wait till summer. hopefully by then i can afford a basic entry level coilover kit.

[justmerging]

I've had the AGX/Sportline Combo for 2.5-3 years now. Daily driven, outlasted my first car. Have yet to have any problems and they got about 20k miles on them. I'm not trying to start an argument but this is just my experience.

[skydragoness]

I've had the AGX/Sportline Combo for 2.5-3 years now. Daily driven, outlasted my first car. Have yet to have any problems and they got about 20k miles on them. I'm not trying to start an argument but this is just my experience.

California roads > Northeastern roads

Glad to hear that it hasn't happened to you. Half of the reason why the Sportlines blow the Agx's is because they're progressive, the ProKits already are, I don't see why Eibach made the Sportlines that way when they drop the car that low.

[Slappy]

California roads > Northeastern roads

Glad to hear that it hasn't happened to you. Half of the reason why the Sportlines blow the Agx's is because they're progressive, the ProKits already are, I don't see why Eibach made the Sportlines that way when they drop the car that low.

hey sky, what entry level ciol over would you recommend for my 93 s13?

i don't have that much so.....?? only sky to answer this please, thank you.

[skydragoness]

Heh, a coilover question? I'm not the one to ask. I've never run them before, and i don't find the need to-- since my car is my daily driver and doesn't see any high-stress situations like circuit racing or drifting. Not to mention they're out of my budget, so its easy to write them off as 'overkill' (though some may disagree)

I autocross, and i find that the adjustability of the Agx's i have, and the stiffness of the ST springs I run to be more than enough, esp. for spirited back-road driving. Tein HR's and the SPL units have received some praise here on the forums, but i'd do more of a search on that if i were you (to find some reviews). But hey, if you have the money go for it.

[Slappy]

thanks for the reply, i'm just really confused 'cause springs and shocks cost less then ciolover's, but the shops i've called charge MORE to install the spring and shock combo. plus someone said, something has to be cut for something else to fit, blah blah blah. if i dont understand something, i dont buy it. but ciolovers are to damn much $$$. r springs and shocks that hard to install?

[skydragoness]

thanks for the reply, i'm just really confused 'cause springs and shocks cost less then ciolover's, but the shops i've called charge MORE to install the spring and shock combo. plus someone said, something has to be cut for something else to fit, blah blah blah. if i dont understand something, i dont buy it. but ciolovers are to damn much $$$. r springs and shocks that hard to install?

No, not necessarily, do you have any car repair-savvy friends that you can find to help you out? If your'e considering coilovers, the cost alone of them can cover the installation of the shocks/springs.

[Slappy]

yea, my friends in my drift club can help. bit we don't have a freakin garage

and it rain's every freakin day.

i see what u mean about coil ovr cost as much as spring, shock , intall.

so, one last time, i'm sorry, if you have been drifting a stock suspension for a solid year, and now its upgrade time, just tell me what u would reccomend, and please dont say personal preference cause i dont know any, yet. thank you....i'm that kind of person where to much info confuses me. so, just one spring brand and one shock brand, pleae, thank you

you seem to have experience in this field, so....

[Slappy]

i went ahead and orderd tokico D-spec's.

i hope they work to my preference.

and bought a few set of old 195/60/15's from a friend who work's at the local junk yard.

[Slappy]

i went ahead and orderd tokico D-spec's.

i hope they work to my preference.

and bought a few set of old 195/60/15's from a friend who work's at the local junk yard.

i got ripped off. well, sort of.....

these dumb asses said that tokico made D-spec's for my year 240, so i orderd them. well, 2 week's later,they call me back and said they made a huge error. they said that the d-spec's are not out yet for my year 240. atleast they were cool enough to credit me back, + shipping. oh well.....