kumho or falken

Post by **santi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

aight i'm thinkin i need new tires up front and the front usually last a while.. so why not get some new ones.. i looked aroudn and i found some kumho ecstas for 57 shipped.. and then some falken ziex's.. these will go on stock rims .. and the tire size i looked at were 205 50 15..

i just wonder what some of your experiences with these tires might be.. dont care about road noise or comfort.. just grip , how hard the sidewalls are. stuff like that.. thanks for any input

Post by **silkk** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

falken azenis!!!

Post by **rico05** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

Ecsta Supra MX I hear are nice, but yes...Falken Azenis Sports are NICE. I have 205/50/15s on my S13 and they are nice and grippy. Great for daily driving (a little noisey and suck in torrential rain) and have stellar grip.

Post by **Exar-Kun** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

"and the tire size i looked at were 205 50 15.."

better go 205-55-15, its better for gearing/speedo and load index for our cars. get the falken azenis st-115 for a good daily driving tire that sitcks when you need it to, or for a more all-season tire, the ZE-512 are good, but not as grippy.

I dislike kumho, except the MX, which is a good gripping tire for the money.

-chet

Post by **santi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

well this is only for the front.. the rears are usually 205 60's which is still stock sidewall . this is just for the front so i can slam it .. also i cant spend more than 150 mounted.. so i cant afford azenis sports.. another thing about the azenis is that might be too much front grip compared to the back b/c the back is alwasy used crap tires for 40 bucks.. so thats why i was lookin at sumthin that would keep me balanced..and is in my budget.. the 57 a piece kumho's shipped to my house , then about 20 for them mounted and balanced puts me under the 150.. azenis would be way over plus will unbalance my car...thanks for the input though.. anything else still helps

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

512's BLOW SO MUCH ***!

Seriously... they are CRAP.

Post by **santi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

haha ok kumho is gettin a vote i guess

Post by **C-Kwik** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

Which Kuhmo ecsta? They have a few under this name. The MX perofrmed nearly as well as the BFG KD's which is considered by most, to be the best gripping street tire(non-race compound). It's a lot cheaper and actually out performs the KD in the wet and in braking according to Tire Rack's testing. I had a set on the S14. It was definitely a grippy tire. I'm not sure how well it holds up under heat and through heat cycling though. I never took the car on the track with them.

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

C-Kwik wrote:Which Kuhmo ecsta? They have a few under this name. The MX perofrmed nearly as well as the BFG KD's which is considered by most, to be the best gripping street tire(non-race compound). It's a lot cheaper and actually out performs the KD in the wet and in braking according to Tire Rack's testing. I had a set on the S14. It was definitely a grippy tire. I'm not sure how well it holds up under heat and through heat cycling though. I never took the car on the track with them.

The Kumhos held up to multiple laps in Kuah's Z32 with 100 deg. ambients.

Post by **rawill240sx** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

Nismo_Freak wrote:512's BLOW SO MUCH ***!

Seriously... they are CRAP.

Can you please elaborate on what was so bad about them. I've also been looking at these as replacements for my daily driver.

Post by **santi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

it's kumho ecsta or falken ziex.. .i had just in mind one of the two b/c they are in my price range.. lots of the tires you guys are mentioning although are great tires and prolly a better choice i just cant afford it ..i think i'll just order by the eenee meenee miny moe... and then change to the other brand after i wear them out .. and i guess i'll just learn on my own

Post by **santi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

UHHH FALKEN..$57 SHIPPED AT discount tire.. i thought the kumhos were like 59.. i swear thats what i remembered .. but now they are like 70.. so uhh yeah . falken ziex it is

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

rawill240sx wrote:Can you please elaborate on what was so bad about them. I've also been looking at these as replacements for my daily driver.

They have no dry grip and I had BETTER wet weather traction with my half tread Falken Azenis Sports.

Post by **santi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

haha i'm' used to crappppppp tires so i'm sure anything new is better than all the used tires i've bought in the last yr...i bet some azenis would feel awesome though

Post by **C-Kwik** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

santi wrote:it's kumho ecsta or falken ziex.. .i had just in mind one of the two b/c they are in my price range.. lots of the tires you guys are mentioning although are great tires and prolly a better choice i just cant afford it ..i think i'll just order by the eenee meenee miny moe... and then change to the other brand after i wear them out .. and i guess i'll just learn on my own

Which Ecstas? There are at least 10 different ones.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/kumho/kumho.jsp

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...1=yes

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...1=yes

*awsome rating tire*http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...1=yes

Post by **santi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

oh i meant total for two tires mounted and balanced cant be more than 140.. all the tires i've seen have been like 140 a piece.. haha i will prolly never be able to afford tires like that..

Post by **drifts14x** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

I just put a set of Falken Ziex ZE 512's on my car (P205/55R15), and they are some awesome, sticky tires. I don't know what happened with you Nismo_Freak, but my tires are really nice. And as for wet traction, they rocked out really good today driving at 75 mph in heavy rain, no light front end at all like with my old tires.

Post by **santi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

drifts14x thank you .. thats the kinda stuff i was lookin for.. i ordered them in 60's but i hope i enjoy them just as much thanks

Post by **drifts14x** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

No Problem, they should work just as well in the 60's. I hope you're as happy with your tires as I was with mine, because these are some really good tires. Take Care...

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

drifts14x wrote:I just put a set of Falken Ziex ZE 512's on my car (P205/55R15), and they are some awesome, sticky tires. I don't know what happened with you Nismo_Freak, but my tires are really nice. And as for wet traction, they rocked out really good today driving at 75 mph in heavy rain, no light front end at all like with my old tires.

I went from better tires to the 512's when I went 5-lug cause thats what was on the wheels.

Never again...

Post by **180fan** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

I think the Ziex 512's are incredible bang for the buck. Got mine all 4 mounted/balanced for 200. They're grippy enough to chug me around with my old KA, but I did make em squeal like pigs when going through some turns at moderate speed. They like to spin a bit now that I've got my SR. But I got used to driving on Potenzas and had to get the 512's since I was on a tight budget at the time. But incredible bang for the buck.

Post by **santi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

good to hear 180fan ..

Post by **burnin240sx** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

what about es-100's ?

better tread wear for what looks like same traction. but i'm just going by the numbers.

Post by **Kinesthesia** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:32 am

I had Kumho Ecsta Supra's on my S14 and they sucked balls. I personally love Yokohama AVS ES100's for daily driving tires.

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