Koni Yellows vs KYB AXG for KA-T daily driving

[240dx]

whhich shock do you guys think would work best for meI use my car daily on the streets and like to have fun one in a whilei am hooked on smoothness and hugging the curb on corners.I plan on keeping my stock springs. I dont want to go any lower with my bk.Iv'e heard koni's are too stiff for daily driving. That true?Iv'e also heard KYB's adjust the the road climate better. That true?

Place your votes please

[hbpignosePA]

koni's are amazing... great dampers. idk i have read mixed reviews on AGX's but they are more user friendly.

for koni's you gotta cut the front struts due to the fact the dampers are inserts unlike AGX's which are the entire strut assembly. Also, rears for koni's cannot be adjusted without removing the rear struts.

AGXs would probably be better if you dont want to go lower. honestly i would look at something to give you a slight drop. Ebiach pro series or tein s techs would look nice and be relatively soft.

btw theres a suspension forum and this stuff has been covered before

[DroptopDrifting]

i have the kyb agx all around on my car with tein s tech springs. i think it's an awesome setup for a daily driver since it's so easy to adjust. pop your hood and the adjustment is made right on top of the strut tower. never used the koni's though, but i def give a thumbs up for the kyb's as a daily driver/track car

[Slappy]

Any shock is good for DD man. But if you want to do some light spirited driving or Auto X either one of the 2 you chosen will work fine. But i will say Koni Is top notch.

[Tsukiko]

just get coilovers, and adjust them for comfort. if you dont cheap out they will perform much better.

[Slappy]

just get coilovers, and adjust them for comfort. if you dont cheap out they will perform much better.

Theres so many thing wrong with that post.

[Tsukiko]

just thought i would throw in my two cents. why bother with strut spring combos when you can get coil with lslightly softer springs for the street and adjust the dampening to suit your taste? throw in ride height adjustability and at least front camber plates and there you go. He doesn't want to go lower? then don't! He wants to do some "spirited driving" every now and then. I'm hoping he means at a track. adjust the coils for the track and have a ton more fun than struts and springs. finish up, set em back up for the street in a matter of minutes, and go.my apex'is are still more aggressive than any strut spring combo ive ridden in, yet comfortable enough for long drives (at least to me). and yeah i know he didnt say d*** about coilovers. i dont care. its my opinion, take it or leave it.

[shimizu_17]

Coilovers can be much more comfortable than shock/spring setup if you dont cheap out and set them up properly.

Tein flex's ride very smooth, koni yellow ground control setup rides smoother than kyb agx with teins springs anyday.

If you want a smooth ride I think koni's are the way to go. I had agx's and I hated them to death.

[DroptopDrifting]

coilovers will cost him twice as much money as a strut/shock/spring setup. they're unnecessary on a DD. when i was looking for a setup for my 240, which is a DD over the summer, i decided i liked the kybs over anything else because of the ease of adjustment. i hadnt personally been in a 240 with any good suspension prior to date, so i went solely on the idea that i can adjust them in under a minute, and since they seemed comparable to any other top of the line strut/shock setup. koni seemed a lil better in reviews and such, but they seemed tough to play with and plus i like red better than yellow heh. it's all preference, but also i believe i got the kyb's a lil cheaper than i found the koni's for. i think. don't quite remember 100%.

either way you go, you'll love what you got. good luck deciding

[hbpignosePA]

Theres so many thing wrong with that post.

well thats nico's mentality... didnt the OP say he wanted stock springs?

if people read before responding, and most people on here have never driven on koni's and since they arent a bolt on affair, people just bash them and jump on the coilover fanboy boat

[DroptopDrifting]

like i said, i've never felt how the yellows ride. but i do like the kyb's. but if you've felt how both ride, i'd take your word the yellows give a smoother ride since i can vouch that the kyb's with tein springs are not smooth. you feel every bump, but the car definately feels held together more, it doesnt shake when you hit bumps. but yeah i think half the reason i got em were for the fact the kyb's were red and they were cheaper and seemed to be pretty good. i just got this setup to hold me over while i build a motor. when i finish building this motor i plan on getting a nice coilover setup, so i didnt wanna spend too much money on what i have now. but the stock struts that were in my car since 1994 had to be changed lol

edit: the ease of installation was also a plus for the kybs

[DroptopDrifting]

thinkin about it, the extra $200 seems pretty worth it for the yellows if you got the money. i'd say get the yellows if you plan on keeping the setup for a long time, get the kyb's if you plan on saving for coilovers sometime in the near future.

[PHeller]

All you need for the install is a set of donor struts with minimal rust (the ones are your car are fine if your not worried about problems), a pipe cutter, a small drill bit, a big drill bit 9/16 (14mm), and time. A good measuring device would be helpful as well, as you'll need it to cut the donor strut accurately.

[240dx]

I found a set of yellows brand new for 400$CNDtake it or leave it?

[nissanman04]

that's a steal for all 4, do it

[DroptopDrifting]

yeah, good price. if i found em for $400usd before i got the kyb's i'd have taken em

[hbpignosePA]

are they new?

thats a real good price for koni's usually they retail for 120 a piece for the rears and 130 for the fronts

[brizanden]

well thats nico's mentality... didnt the OP say he wanted stock springs?

if people read before responding, and most people on here have never driven on koni's and since they arent a bolt on affair, people just bash them and jump on the coilover fanboy boat

there is too much ignorance anymore for me to even suggest struts on here. unless im in the autox thread where people are actually educated.

[DroptopDrifting]

so why don't you grace us with your expert knowledge. that is, after all, what this thread is about. the op clearly asked for help/information, and i've even come out and said i don't have too much experience/knowledge on this topic, besides the fact that i use kyb agx's. i think everyone who spends time reading up on that aspect of suspension usually look into coilovers, i know that's where i spent most of my reading. i really don't know too much about strut/shock setups, so maybe you can help this guy out more than we can.

[tEknoS13]

Sorry for threadjack but, I got a brand NEW set of KYB AGX shocks and Tein springs for sale.

[PHeller]

The only reason you don't see Koni's on more sponsored track cars is because someone's paying those teams/drivers to run their setup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7C6VhLZ1pA

That car has got Koni's, do you think he's playing around?

[Two Fowty]

not meaning to thread jack, just want some clarification. to get a lowered look, but a good ride, would getting kyb agx struts, and tein s tech springs do the job, or are there more required parts to do this correctly?

[hbpignosePA]

it will be lower but not by much, s techs dont drop that much.

you will atleast need an alignment after any suspension work

[PHeller]

Yes, that's fine, but for the money, KYB's are junk. You might as well just go with Monroe Sensatrak or something real cheap. For $200 more than a set of KYB AGX's you can get Koni's which are four times more awesome.

[DroptopDrifting]

that's all i installed at once. next install is an hlsd and a ES master bushing set and maybe pineapple poly's.

if you're doin the kyb/tein setup it's all you need as far as shocks struts and springs. if you wanna keep goin and do tie rod ends, control arms, bushings, sway bars, etc go for it, but it's not necessary.

edit: on a side note, s tech springs lower 1.22"/1.44"

[Two Fowty]

low enough to make a body kit look decent?

edit: my goal being to ultimately have a body kit on my car, have it low enough to look good, but also maintain a comfortable ride. and it will only be for dd. what would you recommend?
Modified by Two Fowty at 8:42 PM 2/23/2009

[DroptopDrifting]

you dont wanna go lower than the s techs if its a DD. and if you get some 17" or 18" wheels itll cover the little gap thats left. s tech is fine.

[Two Fowty]

i have 17's so for me to accomplish my goals s techs and kyb's would work well?

[Dittoz7]

^Comfort, Performance, Looks.

Pick Two.

:P

[Two Fowty]

if that is to me i'd say looks and performance, i can deal with the non comfort.