Knock Knock Knockin on 11's Door...

[SuperHatch]

I have a video, when I finish putting it together I'll post...

Thanks again to everyone on this forum that has been so helpful. The 20whp I picked up on the dyno a few weeks ago translated to 2MPH higher traps (which it should) and with some tire pressure and 2-step adjustments (now launching at 5200RPM) the car hooks very well and is running great times.

FYI this is a 130k mile siamese-port VH45 with intake, exhaust, and an AFC tune. No other power mods.

[gs14racer]

awesome!!! spray a 150 shot and report back!!!!

[Carl H]

those are impressive times for an otherwise stock engine.how much weight did you end up removing from the car?i'd imagine a stock weight s14 would run mid 12's...

[npez]

Steve,

Those are some fantastic times. I bet it makes all the work you put in that much more worthwhile

Great job!

Nick.

[SuperHatch]

awesome!!! spray a 150 shot and report back!!!!

I have been giving that some thought, but it's much more likely it will get a head/cam swap this winter or a Centri blower.... haven't decided which yet...

[SuperHatch]

those are impressive times for an otherwise stock engine.how much weight did you end up removing from the car?i'd imagine a stock weight s14 would run mid 12's...

Honestly, I don't know Carl... The interior is completely gutted sans the dash, door panels, and seats. There are no F/R bumper supports, and there was about 5gal of gas in the tank. The TH400 is a heavy trans and it robs a ton of power. The car only put 232 to the wheels on a Mustang Dyno...

I would suspect a full weight S14 with a 5-speed, slicks, and a great driver could run similar times, probably a slower ET with a faster MPH.

[SuperHatch]

Steve,

Those are some fantastic times. I bet it makes all the work you put in that much more worthwhile

Great job!

Nick.

Thanks Nick! Yes it has completely been worth the work, the car is an absolute blast to drive!

[SuperHatch]

http://www.youtube.com/v/uZWhCgnXFT0&hl=en&fs=1

[offroadbob]

Awesome vid. I have been a lurker for some time now. It's great to see such a great project come out with great results.

cheers

[hannibal]

Very cool. I dont know much about dragging but I do know Mustang dynos usually understate actual whp. I think its amazing to see a VH powered S14 running 12.0 1/4 miles.

BTW, love the thread title...

Youre running stock intake manifold and headers??

[SuperHatch]

Very cool. I dont know much about dragging but I do know Mustang dynos usually understate actual whp. I think its amazing to see a VH powered S14 running 12.0 1/4 miles.

BTW, love the thread title...

Youre running stock intake manifold and headers??

Mustang Dynos do read low compared to Dynojets.

Thanks, yes, stock intake manifold, custom headers.

[SuperHatch]

I'll let this speak for itself...



VIDEO:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjJUpN-HCHw

Check out http://www.godspeed-racing.com for more info...

[Unnatural1]

There you go! NICE runs! I guess those new slicks are working fabulously with the 1.55 short time. Running 11.90s @ 109-110 mph is making FULL use of available power.

I think I read you were going to be running in the NHRA 12.00 index class right? When does the index series start up again?

Now...NO MORE RED LIGHTS!

[SuperHatch]

There you go! NICE runs! I guess those new slicks are working fabulously with the 1.55 short time. Running 11.90s @ 109-110 mph is making FULL use of available power.

I think I read you were going to be running in the NHRA 12.00 index class right? When does the index series start up again?

Now...NO MORE RED LIGHTS!

Thanks a lot man! I really don't think the car has anything else left in it, we were trying for a magical 11.8x but it didn't happen...

The class starts again next spring, don't have the exact date yet. I'm still not sure if we'll run the car in the NHRA index class or Atco and Etowns index classes. Maybe we'll do both!

Yea yea yea... the red lights are killin me, still trying to get used to this whole setup. I only have 20 runs on the car so far...

[Unnatural1]

You are definitely getting dialed in. I think you're right on the ET, judging by your latest runs. It would appear you are making use of every bit of power available to the rear wheels with that ET. Nice runs!

[SuperHatch]

All,

Just an update, finally got the car weighted this weekend at englishtown. Weight with Driver, 2832lb with no fuel.

Also, I weigh 231, so the car is right at 2600lb. The TH400 is a heavy trans, so a weight reduced base model S14 with a 5-speed should be in the 2550 range.

By as many horsepower calculators as I could come up with, my car is making right around 320HP at the flywheel....

[Unnatural1]

I bet that is pretty close to the actual spec at the crank. gs14racer has similar engine mods (headers, exhaust, intake) and he just dyno'd around 280hp/280tq to the wheels. With 15% drivetrain loss, you'd be at about 272rwhp. I think that's do-able with the trans you are using.

Did you remove any weight from your S14 or is it pretty close to stock weight?

[SuperHatch]

I bet that is pretty close to the actual spec at the crank. gs14racer has similar engine mods (headers, exhaust, intake) and he just dyno'd around 280hp/280tq to the wheels. With 15% drivetrain loss, you'd be at about 272rwhp. I think that's do-able with the trans you are using.

My car put 232 to the wheels on a mustang dyno 3 days before it went 11.9...

gs14racer is now running a oval port motor, which I suspect makes more power than the older siamese port motors. Also, my car has a 4500RPM stall converter, which makes reading the dyno plots pretty rough.

Did you remove any weight from your S14 or is it pretty close to stock weight?

My car is on a pretty serious diet. F&R bumper supports gone, all interior removed and sound deadener removed, no HVAC at all, no stereo.

The dash is in, door panels are in, stock leather S13 seats, center console is in. Stock Z32TT wheels which are no lightweights. Door beams are still in and I have power windows still. There is some more weight to take out, but not without spending money. The stuff I did already was free. I'm not pulling the door beams til it has a cage, and I'm not getting drag wheels until I use up these tires. The 12.0 index requires a minimum weight of 2800lb, so I'm there already. Just need a little bit more power to go 12.0 on a 100 degree day in the middle of the summer.

[Unnatural1]

Mustang dyno's read slightly lower than a Dynojet supposedly. gs14racer said his engine is from a 92 Q, but I don't remember when they switched over to the different port style.

You mentioned previously your dyno graph was pretty useless before which I believe with a 4500rpm stall TC!

Where are you getting more power from? You going to throw on a small shot of nitrous?

[gs14racer]

mine is actually out of a 1995.

[SuperHatch]

Mustang dyno's read slightly lower than a Dynojet supposedly. gs14racer said his engine is from a 92 Q, but I don't remember when they switched over to the different port style.

You mentioned previously your dyno graph was pretty useless before which I believe with a 4500rpm stall TC!

Where are you getting more power from? You going to throw on a small shot of nitrous?

No NOS.

Nistune and headwork... I'll have more details this winter.

[efeezie]

Nice times

Are you still using the 4.08? Also how high are you revving that thing?

[Unnatural1]

mine is actually out of a 1995.

Oh damn...I'm getting my projects confused. Sorry about that!

I think Nistune is in my future as well. The head work should be interesting as I don't think I've read about anyone doing any work on the heads yet. Unless they have?

[SuperHatch]

Nice times

Are you still using the 4.08? Also how high are you revving that thing?

Thanks!

Yes I am using a 4.08, but not OEM. The car has a R32 GTR Rear/Axles/Hubs setup in it.

I'm shifting at 5800RPM, shifting any higher resulted in a lower trap speed. This motor desperately needs cams, and that will be addressed this winter.

[SuperHatch]

I think Nistune is in my future as well. The head work should be interesting as I don't think I've read about anyone doing any work on the heads yet. Unless they have?

Like I've said before, my motor is currently a 100% stock internally 130k mile 91 Siamese-port VH45.

I have a pair of oval port heads that will be lightly hand massaged by M2, I will be putting in stock size aftermarket valves, springs, retainers, and cams. The heads will be decked to raise the static CR, but how much they're decked will be a tradeoff between desired CR and how aggressive I want to go on the lift with the cams. Decking the heads will also result in retarded cam timing, but luckily that helps high RPM power. I'll use Nistune to tune it, and we'll see how well this motor responds. The bottom end will remain stock 91 spec with no freshening up.

I had planned on doing a set of ITBs and a Haltech, but it's just not in the cards this winter. That'll probably be a good setup for the following season (2010).

The car will also be getting a 6-point cage at some point, so I'll have to put it back on a diet after that's installed. I think pulling the door beams, switching to racing seats, and going to drag wheels will more than offset the added weight from the cage. I can't go below 2800lb so I'll only do whats needed.

Keep checking back here and at http://www.godspeed-racing.com for updates on the car....

[gs14racer]

Mazworx already has high rate valve springs and titanium retainers fyi.

[menacekustoms]

I like the Project 86 soundtrack. Where do you get an ECU tuned at?

[SuperHatch]

I like the Project 86 soundtrack. Where do you get an ECU tuned at?

It's a stock ECU

[Unnatural1]

Like I've said before, my motor is currently a 100% stock internally 130k mile 91 Siamese-port VH45.

Yes I know. I was referring to the fact that I've not read about anyone doing any sort of head reworking with the VH. Unless someone has done it previously and I just had not read about it yet. But, I think you're going to be the pioneer on this one...when you get the work done.

[z1 zonly]

That's what I call motivation! Thank you, sir.