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Edwards was just announced as Kerry's Vice President. I know I'm happy, I voted for Edwards in Wisconsin's Democratic Primary.


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I am not a Kerry supporter, but I do really like Edwards. I think he needs a little more experience, especially in international affairs, but otherwise he makes an excellent VP candidate.

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Edwards will put me and others out of a job. I don’t expect much sympathy from people on NICO on the Direct Lending vs. FFELP Lenders issue, but I can paint a very nice picture of how it will affect students when the private lenders are forced out of student loans by John Edwards.

At least the student loan participants will start to pump mad amounts of money into GW's campaign.

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VICE PRESIDENT JACK TRIPPER (John Ritter)

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I think Edwards was a good choice for Kerry. Cold Zero, I'm not familiar with the issue you mentioned, can you please explain? But I'm not sure that many student loan participants would have "mad amounts of money" to contribute to any political campaign if they're already taking out loans just to pay for their schooling, ya' know?

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Bubba1-John Edwards wants to end all private participation in the FFELP program (which offers student aid to students) in order for the Government to completely run the program. Direct Lending (the Government) is a big player in the student loan market but there are players that are as equally big in the FFELP. If the Federal Government could run a program efficiently, I would not be as upset about John’s idea. Problem is, the Federal Government is grossly in-efficient with running programs and the Clinton Administration tried to federalize all of the FFELP by introducing Direct Lending. I remember hearing in the national news that Direct Lending was behind in its disbursements in the summer of 1999 to the tune of a few hundred thousand students waiting for their student loan checks. These are the same guys that subcontract the servicing of their loans, because they can not do it. The prospect of loosing my job so that the Federal Government can take over the student loan market is ridiculous. I personally think that this is a power move on John Edwards and others part to introduce bigger government and to take control out of the private sector's hand.

When I talk about participants with this issue, I am referring to Lenders, Consolidation Companies, Servicers, Guarantors, Secondary Markets as well as schools. You don’t think that people like NELNET, Citibank, Sallie Mae, as well all the lenders that participate in FFELP don’t have money to contribute to PACs and political races? It has been done before. When the Clinton Administration proposed to end private participation in the FFELP in the mid 90’s all the private and GSE participants in FFELP banded together to lobby Congress and were highly effective in making real changes in the program. Changes that were good for lenders and students.

Ps- this is my personal opinion and may not or do not reflect necessarily reflect the opinions of the FFELP participants.

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I would have preferred the Dem's ticket to be reversed. I think Edwards is twice the leader Kerry is. Not that either one would get my vote anyway... I just think the wrong one of the two is going for the big boy spot.

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Yeah Kerry seems to flip flop on his issues too much without much decisiveness. Edwards seems to be the stronger candidate but I figure anyone (including the Governator) would be a better choice than dubya.

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I found it funny that the NEA endorsed John Kerry a few days ago. Kerry voted for the "No Child Left Behind" bill that Bush sent through Congress. The NEA and most teachers hate "NCLB."

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Seeing as Edwards is a representative from my state, I shall weigh in.

I would have at least liked to see him finish his first term before running for president, then vice president. I like his drive. He is a real go getter. But I still question his abilities.

The only one out of the lot of them I would consider voting for would have been John McCain, and not as the vice president. That man has some common sense. And that is something most politicians don't seem to have.

I still like Edwards. He makes a good spokesman.

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JESTER wrote:The only one out of the lot of them I would consider voting for would have been John McCain, and not as the vice president. That man has some common sense. And that is something most politicians don't seem to have.


I agree completely. John McCain is about as unbiased politically as anyone in national politics. I would be all for a John McCain Presidency. He should have gotten the Republican nomination back in 2000. He appeals to both Democrats and Republicans because he is about as straight a shooter as there is.

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Cold_Zero wrote:Edwards will put me and others out of a job. I don’t expect much sympathy from people on NICO on the Direct Lending vs. FFELP Lenders issue, but I can paint a very nice picture of how it will affect students when the private lenders are forced out of student loans by John Edwards.

At least the student loan participants will start to pump mad amounts of money into GW's campaign.


What has Bush done to stop jobs from going overseas? My guess is a lot more people are affected by that then what you're describing, not to discredit it or anything. My dad could lose his job, and Milwaukee School of Engineering's job placement rating of 99% has dropped to the mid 80s% the past few years. Engineering is the field I'm going into.

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I would of voted for John McCain, and I'm as liberal as a person can get!

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spitz7985 wrote:What has Bush done to stop jobs from going overseas? My guess is a lot more people are affected by that then what you're describing, not to discredit it or anything. My dad could lose his job, and Milwaukee School of Engineering's job placement rating of 99% has dropped to the mid 80s% the past few years. Engineering is the field I'm going into.


Spitz,I think you may have missed my point. If the Federal Government could operate the FFELP program more efficiently and at a lower cost, then I wouldn’t feel as bad about the prospect of potentially loosing my job. Problem is the Federal Government can do neither. John Edwards has some pretty radical views on Education. Most of which require growing the size of the Federal Government by expanding the Department of Education.

I lost my job two years ago. They sent my job to another center inside the same company. I had to interview again for an internal job in my center. I know what it is like to loose your job, I was fortunate enough to have the ability to interview for a new job.

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Hmmm. I totally agree with you that the government is clearly not capable of managing money properly. There are plenty of examples to back that up. But as much as you disagree with Edward's views on that matter, do you foresee him being able to make radical changes to FFELP without a majority support from Congress?

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It's quite funny that so many people are staunchly pro-McCain (i'm one of them) because Kerry actually asked McCain to run as VP on the Kerry ticket and McCain turned him down...3 times.

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Cold_Zero wrote:I found it funny that the NEA endorsed John Kerry a few days ago. Kerry voted for the "No Child Left Behind" bill that Bush sent through Congress. The NEA and most teachers hate "NCLB."


That is an interesting point, but unions traditionally gravitate toward democrats. That probably overrides any individual issue. I also enjoy listening to McCain in interviews, and he certainly has fans in both parties. But I'm curious why Republicans passed over him in the last primaries.

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90Q45blue wrote:It's quite funny that so many people are staunchly pro-McCain (i'm one of them) because Kerry actually asked McCain to run as VP on the Kerry ticket and McCain turned him down...3 times.

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Surely, you are more sophisticated than that. An inquiry was probably made to see if McCain might be interested in being considered for the position of VP on the Democratic ticketonce. And why not? Kerry is in truth a centerist like McCain albeit one is to the left and the other to the right. I hardly think Kerry (or anyone else) would formally ask anyone to be VP three times if it were determined that interest was not there in the first place. Politicians have ego and pride if nothing else.

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I know very little of edwards and I saw what he looked like for the first time today. Anyone else think he looks like a goofy John Ritter? And John Ritter is goofy enough already.

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errr...was

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Darn, talking trash about John Ritter.

Well, untill he ran for senate/congress (what ever he ran for) No one else here in his home state had heard of him. He is rich, and good looking. He is highly educated, and a smooth speaker. Which is all you need to be a very successfull politician.

I still dont know alot about him. I know it will be interesting to watch Bush go at him, because his lack of experience. It's already started.

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I'd Nnominate ritter over edweareds

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Me too!


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