kade swap help please!!!!

[wilderb]

before the flame patrol gets their panties in a twist let me say that i'm tired of searching I need help bad.

I'm attempting to do a kade swap into my 1972 510 I know it's pretty much a bolt in but I still need help in the wiring of the thamn thing so I have a few questions:

what do I need to pull from the donor car (95 240sx )?

is there any oil pan that is rear sumped that I can use from any other motor? really don't want to reverse my crossmember

can someone supply me with a link to a wiring diagram for the 95 kade?

I need a simple diagram showing how I can wire in the fuel pump with a bosch style relay

can I use nissan sentra fans ? I already have those and don't have too much money to get new ones. and how can I wire those in with bosch relays?

I have a guy that will wire in the motor only for $300 but i'm broke, plus I don't like people doing anything on my car that doesn't need special tools like a four wheel alignment, welding and such things.

thank's in advance for whatever help anyone can supply.

[KApwr'd510]

The answers to most of your questions can be found on the dime quarterly website. Check out project KA on the dime quarterly. It has wiring diagrams and info about what you need. If you don't build a custom oil pan you will have to reverse the crossmember. I built my own custom pan, it isn't that difficult. As far as fans go there is not much space between the radiator and the water pump. Whatever fans you use will have to be really thin. I used SPAL fans they are the thinnest you can get. You might want to post this in the Datsun forum where you might get more responses from people that have done this type of swap. Good luck on the swap - it makes for fast ride. Joe

[wilderb]

The answers to most of your questions can be found on the dime quarterly website. Check out project KA on the dime quarterly. It has wiring diagrams and info about what you need. If you don't build a custom oil pan you will have to reverse the crossmember. I built my own custom pan, it isn't that difficult. As far as fans go there is not much space between the radiator and the water pump. Whatever fans you use will have to be really thin. I used SPAL fans they are the thinnest you can get. You might want to post this in the Datsun forum where you might get more responses from people that have done this type of swap. Good luck on the swap - it makes for fast ride. Joe

I have already looked at the dimequarterly site and find the article to be lacking alot of the information to get the project done I, no real wiring diagram posted shows the schematics for the actual 95 240sx that the guy used, also I would love to see the final wiring diagram after the motor was installed, that would be better than just the 240's diagram.

As far as posting in the datsun forum like you suggested, have you been there lately there is two pages of posts and some of them are advertisings for products , that section is otherwise dead.

you also talk about making your own oil pan and being easy, how did you do it? can you make me one ? I would supply all the materials

[KApwr'd510]

Hi,I just wanted to try to answer your questions and give you as much info as I had before I did my swap. Then I get your reply that wasn't enough info . I also wanted to thank you for for your last post. It filled me with enough anger to go polish my rims like I should have been doing instead of trying to help you. You have done almost no research about a swap you are going to attempt. If you are going to do it right it is more than a simple bolt in. It requires new motor mounts as well as a new or modified transmission mount. Then you will need your driveshaft shortened. You will also need to relocate your O2 sensor (this can be done various ways). You will need to have a custom radiator built. Then you get to butcher your transmission tunnel (and cover it with yes a modified cover) and change your carpet or you will have a hole in the carpet where it does not belong. That is just the larger of the details. Many people are out there willing to help you, but you need to help yourself just a bit. It took a year of weekends to get mine together and that was only because I had to ask a lot of questions and decide what was best for me. Mods like this can be done many ways. Having a bunch of info in front of you and taking your own path usually works best. From your last post you would like someone to tell you every step they took to complete their swap right down to the last detail (even if that wasn't the best method) that way you can just jump in and make the swap step by step. As far as the Datsun forum being slow you are correct. Part of that is people like you who go the fastest forum just because it seems to move fast, even if it doesn't hold the info you are looking for. If you had not noticed we are trying to get the Datsun forum moving and with people like you posting outside of it , it wil continue to be slow. The other reason maybe it is not listed on the car forums on the homepage. Mods if you are reading this please add the Datsun group to the homepage under car specific links so you do not have to go any extra steps to find it. Wish you all the luck with your swap . I can only imagine it going well .

what do I need to pull from the donor car (95 240sx )?

You need the engine, transmission, wiring harness, ecu, fuse box (depending how you want to wire it), shifter, and any other goody you can think of depending on how you are going to set up your KA.

can someone supply me with a link to a wiring diagram for the 95 kade?

The wiring diagram for a 95 KA is in the FSM if you take a little time to search you will find it on this website. (yes the whole FSM for your viewing pleasure and free)

you also talk about making your own oil pan and being easy, how did you do it? can you make me one ? I would supply all the materials

I did not say it was easy, I said it was not difficult. First you need to mount th engine where you want it then you can cut your stock oil pan about a 1/2" from the top and using manila folders design something to fit (use the pictures from the dime quarterly to be you guide that is what I did). It will cost you about $40.00 in material plus the cost of welding. That will save you from paying $600.00 for a custom oil pan. No I will not build you an oil pan, I did mine and I don't have time to do another. Depending on how you mount your engine the one I built may not work for you. You could check with the guy that built all the parts for project KA but he seems to be be more involved with SR20 swaps and the last time I spoke with him he doesn't know where his tooling is for the KA swaps. Good luck with that .

no real wiring diagram posted shows the schematics for the actual 95 240sx that the guy used, also I would love to see the final wiring diagram after the motor was installed, that would be better than just the 240's diagram.

I do not think you will find a wiring diagram anywhere that shows wire for wire what is needed. Everyone who has done this swap has wired their car a little different from the other guy. It just depends on how you want to do the job. Some people have used the painless kit to wire their car and others have done whatever. Some like the spiderweb effect of taking wires and attaching them to the point that the car runs. I took my entire harness apart and found the wires I needed and removed the ones I didn't. The PDF on the dime quarterly shows you what wires you need to integrate to the 510 wiring. You just need to find what you need and attach them to the right place. You only need about five wires the rest of them just plug into the ECU.

[wilderb]

[QUOTE=KApwr’d510]Hi, . I also wanted to thank you for for your last post. It filled me with enough anger to go polish my rims like I should have been doing instead of trying to help you.

at least your rims should be shinny now , if you read your first reply you would agree with me that it lacked info compared to the second post, anyway thanks for your replies didnt mean to offend you. I have found the service manual if anybody else needs they are posted and are downlodable at http://www.zeroyon.com under their tech section they have all the 240sx years and the 180sx also.