KA24E not starting...

[sstomek]

Here is a video of how the car is acting...



Alright, at first I thought that my car was not starting because of my battery tipping over and the acid spilling everywhere in my trunk. Well I replaced the battery and of course the car still doesn't turn on. I think I have had every possible problem happen with this car.

Anyways, when I try to turn it over it sounds like its gonna start, but doesn't. Starter is moving, distributor and cap is new, plugs are fairly new. Fuses looked good, alternator is new. It also doesn't start if I have the MAF unplugged.

My guess is that it might be a fuel problem, or a sensor came unplugged that is keeping the car off? To try and explain the sound, it will turn over like its going to start for about .5 seconds and then it will make this sound like the engine is flooded and just won't start. I tried holding down the gas pedal while starting it and no go.

more troubleshooting information.

- Both ECU lights are on- Battery is reading 12.7V- We were afraid that some acid might have fouled up the fuel pump connections so we checked those voltages and got 10V when unplugged and 8 when plugged in.- We replaced the fuel filter. - We checked if there was spark and there was.- All fuses are good.- Wideband shows 18-19 AFR while starting (not sure if that helps)- I also have a SAFC hooked up.

some more info:

This problem has happened to my brother when he took my car to his work. When he went out to go get lunch the car showed no problems. When he got in the car to go back to work it wouldn't start. After he let the car sit for a while it started and he got back to work. And after that it supposedly never gave him problems.

-Tomek

Edit: added more troubleshooting infoEdit2: added more info

Modified by sstomek at 1:05 PM 11/3/2007
Modified by sstomek at 2:13 PM 11/3/2007

[sstomek]

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[sstomek]

now with video !

[ca18tt1978]

For any reason did you change your timeing / are you plug wires in the right place , if your getting fuel to the injectors then its a spark issue I would check your timing thats what it sounds like to me

[sstomek]

I am going to recheck the injectors and spark plugs just to be absolutely sure. I don't think there is an issue with the timing because I mean before this, the car ran fine. I didn't do anything at all with the distributor for the timing to mess up unless it can somehow mess up by itself..

[VeloceDrift]

Maybe your coil has gone bad? also are you just looking at the fuses. i have been an installer for awhile now and have seen many many bad fuses that look perfect. i would get out a multimeter and check em all that way. also triple check the big ignition fuse in the engine bay.

[BigLoukaT]

Hey man, unfortunately I did not read all of your post...because I simply dont have the time to do so right now.

In the FSM, there's a part that says that while the engine is cranking, the tach should be fluctuating over 250 rpms. Yours doesn't seem to be doing so. I can try to find it for ya, but if you look, I had originally stumbled upon it during a no-start/spark troubleshooting...maybe the section "tests w/o codes" or something.

[neverlift]

I'd get a multimeter out and check my power transistor you will never get the car running if its failed, also IIRC I was getting sparks when mine went bad, they were just whenever it wanted to, not when it needed to. Also the main fuse thing on the pass fender(s13) if that one goes you wont.

let me ask you this did the terminals touch the body when it took a tip?

[sstomek]

Hey man, unfortunately I did not read all of your post...because I simply dont have the time to do so right now.

In the FSM, there's a part that says that while the engine is cranking, the tach should be fluctuating over 250 rpms. Yours doesn't seem to be doing so. I can try to find it for ya, but if you look, I had originally stumbled upon it during a no-start/spark troubleshooting...maybe the section "tests w/o codes" or something.

I noticed that too when I was cranking. The only thing causing that rpm to move is the shaking of the engine. Maybe it has something to do with what neverlift is saying.

I'd get a multimeter out and check my power transistor you will never get the car running if its failed, also IIRC I was getting sparks when mine went bad, they were just whenever it wanted to, not when it needed to. Also the main fuse thing on the pass fender(s13) if that one goes you wont.

let me ask you this did the terminals touch the body when it took a tip?

the terminals could of definitely touched the body when it took a tip. Where is the power transistor going to be located. And when you say fuse thing on the passenger fender do you mean the fuse box (contains fuel pump fuse, alternator fuse, etc.)? If so I checked them all with a multimeter and they are good.

ARGHH I hate that they moved this thread into the KA section. Now I have 2 separate threads to worry about in one section just makes things confusing. I posted in 2 different sections to get more views cause some people don't even come into the KA section. O well.

[WDRacing]

ARGHH I hate that they moved this thread into the KA section. Now I have 2 separate threads to worry about in one section just makes things confusing. I posted in 2 different sections to get more views cause some people don't even come into the KA section. O well.

Fixed, just be sure to keep track of both threads. Normally we don't allow this, but it's not really turbo related. And I like you

[driftknight]

i know this might sound stupid but you should try to replace your temperature sensor because my car did the same thing out of no where it did not want to start and i didn't know why and then my friend told me i should replace the temperature sensor so i did and it started right up

[sstomek]

Fixed, just be sure to keep track of both threads. Normally we don't allow this, but it's not really turbo related. And I like you

Heh thanks but this 2 thread thing is really starting to suck. Could you actually close this one?

[WDRacing]

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