ka24det in california help!!

[cornuts]

i got a 91 240sx and i wanna know if theres anybody that can help me, i wanna turbo the ka but i need the car to be smogged. what can i do? or is there any other way i can go around it? (im in north cal)

[motoman399]

smog it first. you arent going to be able to smog it if its ka-t. where the F**k is williams?

[shimizu_17]

i got a 91 240sx and i wanna know if theres anybody that can help me, i wanna turbo the ka but i need the car to be smogged. what can i do? or is there any other way i can go around it? (im in north cal)

You live in williams near colusa?

Anyways, There is no smog legal turbo kit for the KA (Greddy turbo kit is not smog legal in california for a 240sx, I dont care what people say. I had one and it is NOT SMOG LEGAL). So if you want to run a turbo kit I advise you smog your car then stick on the turbo kit asap so you can drive around for 2 years without smogging it and pray a cop does not pull you over and gives you a state ref ticket.

If you are looking to do a smog legal swap your best bet is to do a VQ35 swap or a ls1 swap. I have not seen one done, but at the moment those seem to be your most realisitic engine choices to have a smog legal swap with more power than stock.

[motoman399]

actually the greddy kit is smog legal. its C.A.R.B. legal. stands for California Air Resources Board. as long as you dont add a front mount or alter the kit in any way it remains legal. and you have to keep it on the stock boost, which i believe is 7psi internally gated.

[DMan II-40]

It actually says C.A.R.B. pending, but it has said that for the past couple of years. Give them a call and they will tell you it is still pending. Same thing happened with the Greddy header, never became legal in CA.

My plan for KA-T was to use V-band fittings on sections of the intercooler piping so I could remove them fast to go back to stock. Also use a FMU and a MSD BTM for fuel and timing. Won't be a crazy set up but should be fun, and I can switch it back over to stock form in a matter of a couple hours no problem.

[shimizu_17]

actually the greddy kit is smog legal. its C.A.R.B. legal. stands for California Air Resources Board. as long as you dont add a front mount or alter the kit in any way it remains legal. and you have to keep it on the stock boost, which i believe is 7psi internally gated.

Yeah.... Being a owner of a greddy kit I would know if it was CARB legal or not..... DMan II-40 is correct the greddy turbo kit was carb pending. But I have had my greddy kit for over 3 years and I would send a e-mail every few months and still no carb number for it and I highly doubt they will ever release one. I even went to smog stations hoping they just assumed the greddy kit was legal and it is not .Since it never got a Carb numnber I changed out almost everything on that kit except the turbo and fmic. The greddy kit is garbage and if the turbo dies I will be selling it and buying a good turbo.

[cornuts]

yep next to colusa been there ever sence i could read, well im in miami now but im moving back in 2 months and i got a 240 line-up for me. i had one here with a sr swap and just sold it so im trying to get a plan going and keep it legal. but thanks for the info guys

[yusk8ing]

if u have a pretty readily avaliable garage n tools then u can just swap stuff back n fourth for a smog every 2 years. i mean a good day to pass legally and save some bucks while ur at it.

[shimizu_17]

yep next to colusa been there ever sence i could read, well im in miami now but im moving back in 2 months and i got a 240 line-up for me. i had one here with a sr swap and just sold it so im trying to get a plan going and keep it legal. but thanks for the info guys

If you plan just to drive it around 530 area code, the chances are less likley that you will be pulled over and have your hood popped compared to people in sacramento/bay area. As long as you keep your car more OEM looking and no really bright paints, body kits, no interior, etc. you shouldnt have that big of a problem. Cops usually target honda's in 530 area code. In no way im saying 100 percent sure that you will not get pulled over, but realistically its less likley to happen in 530 area code, especially williams.

[cornuts]

well guys thanks alot but i have came up with my plan!!!! im not turboing anyhting and not ganna spent 5 to 8 thousand dollars for 180-220 horse power... "ima go with the vh swap" still legal well pass smog and i be well over 200hp didnt see my self in a v8 import but what the hell gotta try new things.

[shimizu_17]

well guys thanks alot but i have came up with my plan!!!! im not turboing anyhting and not ganna spent 5 to 8 thousand dollars for 180-220 horse power... "ima go with the vh swap" still legal well pass smog and i be well over 200hp didnt see my self in a v8 import but what the hell gotta try new things.

Well it will only be legal if you can get it to pass california state ref. Every VH swap I have seen does not retain oem headers because I heard the oem headers have fitment issues. And to this day I have NEVER seen a bar'd and ref'd swapped 240sx. If anyone can prove me wrong please show me because I would love to sell my ka-t setup if there is a realistic smog legal option that has been done

A ka-t setup would be a lot more cost effective IMO than a VH swap. I think the mazaworkz swap kit costs like 1,000 bucks then the cost of engine,transmission, etc. You can get a good ka-t kit for 2-3k range.

[oz240red]

Move to Florida, we don't have smog test.....yet (crossing fingers)

So overthere cops can stop you just because they want to check your engine bay? even if you're not speeding or running a red light or something?

[shimizu_17]

Move to Florida, we don't have smog test.....yet (crossing fingers)

So overthere cops can stop you just because they want to check your engine bay? even if you're not speeding or running a red light or something?

Yup, if they think your exhaust is to loud they have the right to pull you over and ask to pop your hood. If you do not comply they will tow your car and get a search warrant and search your car. But cops in certain areas will pull over modified looking cars that even have oem exhausts and just use the excuse that they think their car is to loud so they have to check for non carb compliant parts.

[oz240red]

In that case, I would go bottom mount, It's pretty hard to hide a top-mount t3/t4... lol. But I guess any turbo is hard to hide really

[shimizu_17]

In that case, I would go bottom mount, It's pretty hard to hide a top-mount t3/t4... lol. But I guess any turbo is hard to hide really

If you know what you are doing its not hard. You can easiely put together a turbo KA with a bunch of OEM SR parts, sidemount intercooler, a jgs log mani bottom mount w/a heatshield, sr intake filter box, etc. etc. etc. Wont be a huge power maker but should easiely put a grin on most peoples faces when driving it.

[oz240red]

That's true, didn't think about that. Plus I think a t25 will do okay with the stock exhaust??

[DMan II-40]

I think you would need a larger one. Smallest I would go is 2.5" but that is just an opinion. If you want stealth looking exhaust the BRM twin-tip is hands down the most "OEMish" and I have heard nothing but good things about them.