KA24DElema.

[Bongpain]

hi am new to the bord and need lots of help.

1st What is the diffence between the 92 ka24de and the 94+ ka24de?is the intake and exhaust manifold bolt up the same; as far as the engine goes what is the diffence?

Please help.tnx

[240marcuSX]

so you bought the car like that right?? and are presently in the process of getting new wheels, redoing the paint, getting rid of the vinyl, getting the stock tail lights back, losing the ridiculous body kit, and dear god, get your freaking gas cap back, right???

i will donate to the restoration of that catastrophe.

[grip_racer]

hey bro. yeah, your car is a little ricey. but that's a pretty good job youve done molding in those r32 tails.

i think the main difference is the cam profiles and obd1/obd2 stuff

[DaydreamDrifter]

I have no relevant information but nice car, it is your right? Ok, point made.

[eddiec]

i dont know, the filler door is kinda cool.

[ddgsxr504]

I agree that car is ridiculous, it looks like its ready for the Fast and Furious 3 casting call, Either that or some Honda owner got a hold of it, I will help donate to restore this atrocity.

[Bongpain]

hey tnx for the offers but dont hate my works, just need help on motor info that kind of common i only hear from some import racers..i dont claim none and this is what i do for a living soo. tnx

[saintsinner]

yo homey didnt ask for opinions on his ride..he asked a question on wether or not there is a big difference between twin cam ka motors in the s13 and s14.....so if you dont have any comments that are helpful or have anything to do with thread keep your whack comments to yourself.....and thruthfully i think the car is ill....he did things he likes to it not things he would think other would think was cool...all it needs is a hot set of wheels with the right offsets....

[240marcuSX]

word son? oh **** my bad gangsta!!, i got nut'n but repeck fo his mad tyte pimp ride.

i love it when people with 1 post count come on here and try to tell people what's what.

[saintsinner]

and what because you have been on this board forever and have a ****load of post that gives you the right to bash on other peoples rides like you are high and mighty?!the one point i was trying to get across was that homey didnt ask you guys to critique his car,he asked you a tech question...so if you dont kno the answer you dont kno the answer plain and simple,but dont start rippin in to someones ride cause they like things you dont....and another thing,dont assume someone is a ****ing hoodrat cause they use slang "gangsta"...

[saintsinner]

cam profiles sounds plausible,but as far as obd stuff i dont kno cause that wasnt really implemented until late 95 early 96....as it is now im still askin a couple guys about that too...anyway i hope more people chime in....

[240marcuSX]

who is homey?!?!

[Red coupe]

yeah come on this is an engine forum and he is asking about different KAs so where is all this coming from? your comments may be semi accurate bout his car but compleatly irrelevant....I don't post cookie recipies in your threads so please don't post useless info in his...

Im pretty sure the obdII was a mid 95 thing but I don't know were I heard that from, you could try and find a s13de and s14de FSMs from here...http://www.zeroyon.com/TheSite/techservice.htmlIt might have diagrams of how many bolts and general representation of spacing so you could check if the is anything obvious to show it wont....

edit:spell check is good

[ILikeMy240sx]

Yea not much difference between S13 and S14 KA24DEs. The major difference is OBDII. They have different redlines because S14 uses heavier pistons and I think S14s have different cam profiles than S13.

[dfw240_EE]

I didn't know about the heavier pistons. I thought that except for the OBD 1 to 2 change the two were largely identical.

Oh, just in case you aren't aware, OBD II is simply a different set of emissions controls on your car. For the most part, it would be illegal to put S13 Equipment in an S14. I don't know about putting S14 equipment in an S13. Of course if you install an entire S14 engine set into an S13 that is perfectly fine. I am just not sure about putting things from an S14 in piecemeal.

[ka24deNewB]

I was wondering about that myself, but i think there are some major differents in the eletrical parts on the 95+ model. like the distributor is different from the 91-94 ka24de motor. Also, of course ob1 and ob2. MAF and the transmission that hook up to the 95+is a different set up from what i have heard.

[dfw240_EE]

Yeah, you are right. I do remember hearing that the electronic connections are different on the 95+ KA24DE's transmission. Differences in the MAF and Distributor would probably be tied to changes in the ECU (the whole OBD1 to 2 thing). Plus I think the 95+ eliminated the AIV.

[Bongpain]

Hey tnx to all the peeps that put up some good infos. here is my current project.

oh yea this is the wifey's ride......lol

[Megadeth]

I agree that car is ridiculous, it looks like its ready for the Fast and Furious 3 casting call, Either that or some Honda owner got a hold of it, I will help donate to restore this atrocity.

My thoughts exactly..

[Bongpain]

WELL LOOK AT WHAT WE GOT HERE MEGADETH IS OUR FAG WINNER OF THE DAY...LOL... dont come to talk shiiiit to on my page and EDIT what i have to say to you on your page because we all know you're a forum fag. well to everyone else drive safe and real fast..execpt megadeth. return your mom bugs key before you wrap yourself around a tree..

[swannjay]

who is homey?!?!

I don't know, but, they're both from Bridgeport, CT.

[coupe4me]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, I believe ObdII was a industry wide standard begun in 1996 to all new vehicles.

[coupe4me]

As far as I've know you could use S14 motors in S13 bodys as long as they were pre 96.

[Newcastle82]

Wow, this is totally pathetic. You've got OLDER, more experienced forum members talking **** to newer, less experienced members who are posting their threads in a KA forum, asking for HELP. What the hell is wrong with you guys? This Nico board is about helping each other out and answering questions. Not about talking **** to someone for the way they speak or the way they've modded THEIR OWN cars, or they way they refer to their friends. This is bull.

[corn322]

Wow, this is totally pathetic. You've got OLDER, more experienced forum members talking **** to newer, less experienced members who are posting their threads in a KA forum, asking for HELP. What the hell is wrong with you guys? This Nico board is about helping each other out and answering questions. Not about talking **** to someone for the way they speak or the way they've modded THEIR OWN cars, or they way they refer to their friends. This is bull.

Exactly. But anyway, Bongpain, don't worry about those guys. I'm pretty sure the main differences between the two engines have been covered in this thread. OBD2, cams, and pistons. and maybe the distrubitor. And some transmission wires.

[saintsinner]

wow it took some of you guys that long to realize we are both from ct....anyway to the folks that have replied,much appreciated....

[saintsinner]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, I believe ObdII was a industry wide standard begun in 1996 to all new vehicles.

yeah bro thats pretty much what obd2 was...it was done that way so that techs like some of us would have it easier when it came to diag cars...before obd2 everyone had their own scan tool harnesses their own codes and meanings...so for a tech it was kinda a ***** to diag things...obd2 got rid of all that and made it so that everyone used the same scantool interface,and same codes...for instance if your 96 s14 was throwin a code for havin a ****ty o2 sensor than it would be the same code for say a 99 jetta if it had the same problem...damn that was alota typin....but i hope you understand what im tryin to say....
Modified by saintsinner at 8:18 AM 2/24/2005

[dfw240_EE]

Yeah, I do. Did the 95 240SX go ahead and implement that? Or do the 95 S14's not have it?

[DosQuarenta]

I say fix ur car up anyway u want..im with the logical thinkers on that one..and i know it might sound dumb but i called in for an engine the other day cus ive got 92 with 155k and want a newer one to turbo and invest some funds on it, and the wrecking yard only had a 98 he said it would fit with no tinkering or rewiring i assume he knows wut hes talking about he does it for a living but i might be wrong..someone show me the light...

[Bongpain]

THANKS TO ALL WHO GAVE GOOD INFO. I WAS LOOSING FAITH IN THIS BOARD TILL A FEW PEEPS GAVE ME SOME GOOD INFO THAT I CAN USED. TNX MAYBE I'LL STAY AROUND FOR THE HECK OF IT.