Ka24de Just kept up with a VG30de!!! Really?

[chrismo240sx]

So i was on my way home from work before and some teen pulls alongside me and starts reving his motor, pulling back and forth on me.....so after a while i said eh, what the hell....why not (knowing he would kill me).

well to make a long story short....it was dead even through all the gears!!

we pulled over and talked aand he said he had intake and exhaust on his NA VG30. I told him i had a few bolt-ons (I,H,E, Pulley, JWT ECU)

He said my car is fast for being N/A, but whatever, i dont know.

So was this legit you think or was something wrong with his car? He was shifting hard through the gears, i heard him haha. Or does this seem right that a Ka with a few bolt-ons can keep up with a 6 banger VG Z...

...Just felt like sharing!!! BTW- ill prob get flamed but whatever, IDC

[ashibah83]

it just a n/a VG in a car that weighs more than urs it kinda sounds near right to me, maybe a bad driver

[supreamS14]

I have owned both. My stock 96 auto 240sx was faster than my 90 5 speed 300zx n/a with intake and catless catback exhaust.

[ThuG LyFe]

hmm i dono...i mean KA's aren't THAT slow if you put the pedal to the metal. then again i haven't driven/rode in any FI cars so i wouldn't know.

and z32's are pretty heavy...does anyone know how much hp/tq a na vg30 makes?

[chrismo240sx]

hmm i dono...i mean KA's aren't THAT slow if you put the pedal to the metal. then again i haven't driven/rode in any FI cars so i wouldn't know.

and z32's are pretty heavy...does anyone know how much hp/tq a na vg30 makes?

yes i do.....222hp, 198lb/tq compliments of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_300ZX

[AZ89two4Tsx]

Wait, what generation Z are you talking about? Was this a Z31? If so it was a VG30E not DE. If it was a z31 yeah, but z32, idk. It would have to be a pretty poor driver and a poorly maintained car. A stock KA isn't really a beast of a motor in mostly stock form.

Btw, you said ALL the gears. Does that mean both of you were redlining in fifth by the end? I could probably see a 240 keeping up with a Z till about third gear, but that's about it. They've got us beat big time on the top end.

[chrismo240sx]

Wait, what generation Z are you talking about? Was this a Z31? If so it was a VG30E not DE. If it was a z31 yeah, but z32, idk. It would have to be a pretty poor driver and a poorly maintained car. A stock KA isn't really a beast of a motor in mostly stock form.

Btw, you said ALL the gears. Does that mean both of you were redlining in fifth by the end? I could probably see a 240 keeping up with a Z till about third gear, but that's about it. They've got us beat big time on the top end.

Yes it was a Z32 with the Dual cam motor....the new body(the old ones look terrible IMO)

We didnt redline 5th, but I went to about 5400 in 5th whatever fast that is....and we were still even.

He said he had 160k miles as to my 130k

And yes, its about 550 lbs heavier.

[Clawhammer]

I didn't read the replies cause I'm lazy but don't forget how flippin' heavy z32's are...and the neat little thing called power to weight ratio.

[Dattebayo]

Whatever the issue may be, you're both pieces of crap for racing out on a public road.

Take it to the track for racewars, you maroon.

yes i do.....222hp, 198lb/tq compliments of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_300ZX

Stop it! Stop trying so hard. A VG30DE does not make 222 HP in a N/A Z32. Seriously people, stop quoting the flywheel ratings and give the BHP.

[lunatyk]

5400 rpm in the 5th gear, so on public roads you were going like...85 mph?

[xX RB Xx]

5400 rpm in the 5th gear, so on public roads you were going like...115 mph?

fixed

[lunatyk]

Shiit, even worse haha. I knew it sounded wrong when thinking about it.

[sebazztard]

i would assume the na z would take a stock ka. this is kind of disapointing because i was looking to get a na z for a summer dd, but whats the point if its the same power...but more maintenence? i sense a vert in the future.

[Dattebayo]

It's not. A real driver would beat a 240 in that. The guy was probably shifting too soon. But you do have to remember that a VG doesn't rev as high as a KA can, nor is the powerband the same.

Also, this whole travesty that took place was a running start, the 300 would maul the 240 off the line.

[chrismo240sx]

It's not. A real driver would beat a 240 in that. The guy was probably shifting too soon. But you do have to remember that a VG doesn't rev as high as a KA can, nor is the powerband the same.

Also, this whole travesty that took place was a running start, the 300 would maul the 240 off the line.

wrong again bub...we did from a dig twice and a roll about 5 times. I actually took him off the line both times. It was closer from a roll at 40.

[chrismo240sx]

Whatever the issue may be, you're both pieces of crap for racing out on a public road.

Take it to the track for racewars, you maroon.

Um thank?

Stop it! Stop trying so hard. A VG30DE does not make 222 HP in a N/A Z32. Seriously people, stop quoting the flywheel ratings and give the BHP.

and oh im sorry i didnt translate that to brake horse power for ya, so to make it a little more clear and even and keep it at the flywheel....

222hp flywheel vs 155hp flywheel3350lbs roughly vs 2750 lbs roughly

plus the mods from both us, but dont forget about the mileage on both motors.

[nevertheless]

my stock KA kept up with a boosted z31.Once we hit third tho, he slowly pulled two cars on me.

[slow s13]

ive owned both in manual form and the z was a full second faster in the quarter and both times done on a real drag strip not a g tech ro something else.

[Scuffed_ChukiCoupe]

i belive it nothing special. I kept up with 96 maxima neck at neck till i had to shift to 5th. n/a 300zx started off behind him didnt gain any distance... n/a eagle talon neck and neck (that was when my rev limiter was off) beat a 02 chevy tahoe easy, but my 240 was gutted/no a/c components and no back seats so.... And that car was slow.

[livinglegend2100]

wrong again bub...we did from a dig twice and a roll about 5 times. I actually took him off the line both times. It was closer from a roll at 40.

he probably doesnt know how to launch then. my friends z32 (absolutely stock w/ intake? walks me (intake,exhaust, stripped beyond reason) off the line til mid 2nd gear, when were even til about 4th gear and i pull away. then his top end is apparent when he blows by me when my rev limiter kicks.

idk. overall theyre pretty even cars. one has more powe and is heavier. one is lighter but has less power. its whatever.

[Dattebayo]

wrong again bub...we did from a dig twice and a roll about 5 times. I actually took him off the line both times. It was closer from a roll at 40.

No, I am not wrong. The power difference makes up for the weight gain, "BUB".I am telling you the other guy can't drive.

And as far as BHP, it does make a difference. You freakin' bench racers keep applying HP numbers that don't mean a screw tho, you need to be broken of the habit somehow...

[Koshin]

I had a guy in a black z33 d!ck with me today on the highway...its was funny

[danielsan]

No, I am not wrong. The power difference makes up for the weight gain, "BUB".I am telling you the other guy can't drive.

And as far as BHP, it does make a difference. You freakin' bench racers keep applying HP numbers that don't mean a screw tho, you need to be broken of the habit somehow...

get off your high horse. could you explain to me what BHP stands for?? you do realize that you might be talking about WHP or wheel horse power, as in how much power is getting to the wheels.

[adrianfromthecastle]

its believeable...

besides n/a z32's aren't supposed to be fast are they? eh... what do I know..

[Razi]

get off your high horse. could you explain to me what BHP stands for?? you do realize that you might be talking about WHP or wheel horse power, as in how much power is getting to the wheels.

It is BHP

[jeff420]

i used to beat my buddy with a 5 speed na z32. then he went turbo, lol

[jphoustonxport]

I am with you I owned a 300zx na and it seemed fast untill I got beat by ford focus at the track. So I bought a 300zxtt and spent a ton of cash and got beat by a S13 with a RB25det.. I cried I sold my 300zxtt and went into hiding. Beside all that 300zx na are geared to give it a little more pep of the line but they suck down the road.

[fourLUG_hero]

N/A Z32's are NOTHING to call home about. Personally, I don't know how you didn't walk him by at least two or three cars.

[blacksrjdm]

It is BHP

In the UK its Brake horse power, but most dynos in the states measure wheel horse power. Dont know what the issue is here. I wasnt aware that both cars were dynoed to tell true WHP.

[danielsan]

It is BHP

BHP is a term mostly used in europe, "brake horse power", same thing as just saying HP just the brits like to use it. it originated by the use of dynos that used a brake system to measure the engines power, hence the B in BHP. im not sure where you guys think that its designated as a term for wheel horse power. it all depends on where the power is measured from. mostly all manufacturers use flywheel ratings, that they can call BHP, HP or PS.