Um...Skylines are less than 100kg heavier. Do you maybe think that with the Skyline having the boat anchor RB could maybe, just maybe, be the biggest contribution of that? Bottom line there is the Skylines aren't "really heavy". Its not like the KA has less potential. Think about what I gain; more displacement, weight reduction, and better weight distribution. I can continue in how your wrong about most everything you said but in the end KA's are SOO much cheaper to build and up here at least they come for free, thus why I have two running ones...so whatever I'm different lol that's fine with me.mys13240 wrote:This is the most rediculous this I think I have ever heard of. You put a skyline engine in a 240sx for these reasons. The RB's have descent power in stock form and can be opened up with ease, but the skylines are really heavy. The 240sx on the other hand is relatively light, but has a powerplant that isn't so ballzy without modifying heavilly. There are plenty of salvaged skylines in japan where you can get these RB powerplants.
I have said all of this to say this : WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME PUTTING AN ENGINE WITH 150hp @THE CRANK INTO A CAR THAT ORIGINALLY HAS AN ENGINE WITH 200HP @ THE CRANK. THERE IS NO LOGICAL REASON...UNLESS YOU JUST WANT TO BE DIFFERENT.
Small engine in bigcar = bad performance and s***ty Fuel milage
Just like getting a full size truck with a V6. The smaller engine barely has the power to pull the heavy full size truck so it gets s***tier gas mileage than if you get a V8
QFT.mys13240 wrote:This is the most rediculous this I think I have ever heard of. You put a skyline engine in a 240sx for these reasons. The RB's have descent power in stock form and can be opened up with ease, but the skylines are really heavy. The 240sx on the other hand is relatively light, but has a powerplant that isn't so ballzy without modifying heavilly. There are plenty of salvaged skylines in japan where you can get these RB powerplants.
I have said all of this to say this : WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME PUTTING AN ENGINE WITH 150hp @THE CRANK INTO A CAR THAT ORIGINALLY HAS AN ENGINE WITH 200HP @ THE CRANK. THERE IS NO LOGICAL REASON...UNLESS YOU JUST WANT TO BE DIFFERENT.
Small engine in bigcar = bad performance and s***ty Fuel milage
Just like getting a full size truck with a V6. The smaller engine barely has the power to pull the heavy full size truck so it gets s***tier gas mileage than if you get a V8
Dude the RB20 sucks. It's the worst engine of the RB's, you would seriously onl;y want one to be JDM cool. People praise the SR20 over teh RB20. swapping a KA24 into it wouldn't be bad. No replacement for displacement. The RB20 and KA24 share the same tranny so its just a matter of swapping out the cross member, wiring, etc.mys13240 wrote:This is the most rediculous this I think I have ever heard of. You put a skyline engine in a 240sx for these reasons. The RB's have descent power in stock form and can be opened up with ease, but the skylines are really heavy.
you doin a na KA or KA-T? cuz you can get alot of torque from the SOHC KA im goin to build mine to be all motor no turbo (i want it to last) my boy built his he managed around 250-260ish RWHP dnt member RWTQ (real s*** btw no bs) and my other friend has an 05 S2000 my friends s13 took it out of the hole f22s dont have torque but they pull (wen Vtec kicks in)eventually the s2000 will catch up but way later though if i had a video id post it on youtube but my friend moved to FL he might be on nico i dont know im thinking really of a KA24e-T but dont know a safe psi to boost because i really want my motor to last but all motor is good its nice ka have potential believe it or not.... ka's are made in japan too so ya not jus SR's,RB's,and CA's all the jdm ENGINE lovers "ka's can have heat if you set them up right"mattheripper wrote:
Um...Skylines are less than 100kg heavier. Do you maybe think that with the Skyline having the boat anchor RB could maybe, just maybe, be the biggest contribution of that? Bottom line there is the Skylines aren't "really heavy". Its not like the KA has less potential. Think about what I gain; more displacement, weight reduction, and better weight distribution. I can continue in how your wrong about most everything you said but in the end KA's are SOO much cheaper to build and up here at least they come for free, thus why I have two running ones...so whatever I'm different lol that's fine with me.
God your a fvking retard. Get off my internet.Bigvinnie wrote:
Dude the RB20 sucks. It's the worst engine of the RB's, you would seriously onl;y want one to be JDM cool. People praise the SR20 over teh RB20. swapping a KA24 into it wouldn't be bad. No replacement for displacement. The RB20 and KA24 share the same tranny so its just a matter of swapping out the cross member, wiring, etc.
480sx wrote:OP - Dude.. Unless you go Ka-T your going to be sorely disappointed with the end result.
God your a fvking retard. Get off my internet.
The RB20 is a great motor with incredible rev potential. Fairly cheap, until you start modding it lol.
480sx wrote:God your a fvking retard. Get off my internet.The RB20 is a great motor with incredible rev potential. Fairly cheap, until you start modding it lol.
Bigvinnie wrote: Go back to your cave homosexual your the only one on the on theinternet that seems to have problems with my opinion.KA24det>RB20det
Bigvinnie wrote:
Go back to your cave homosexual your the only one on the on theinternet that seems to have problems with my opinion.KA24det>RB20det
Sounds like someones jealous that they can do more than be a grease monkey. I'm not a kid either chump so watch your comments or get blasted with factual information.480sx wrote:Go back to the turn tables kid.
No a KA24de head falls short roughly by 20cfm @ a .400 lift, not a huge drastic difference. If I can find the links I will get them for you which there was one at kat.org, and zilvia. In any case the KA24de head isn't a well casted head and has many casting imperfections that make the sr20 head better at flow.The KA24de does have displacement on it's side which helps atomization of air and fuel. The piston diameter is what allows the advantage over the SR and Rb20. RB20det using the smallest piston diameter is going to struggle for power because of its valve sizes which are limited or else there will become alot of valve shrouding. So because of piston size the SR and KA both have the advantage over the RB20. Some people even dispute that the KA is actually better on power than the RB25det because of valve sizes that can be used.Rod Slider wrote:from what I read the KADE's head outflows the SR's head. KA's are cheaper and easier to get, these facts alone make it worth it.
You can get a KA24de for 450 bucks used, and after market turbo parts for about $550.HX35 turbo $150 at junk yardsturbo manifold $100 on ebaydown pipe SR for $45 usedInjectors at pick and pull from a Q45 for $12.00 an injector usedinter cooler and pipes $200willem rom burner for a ka24de OBD1 ecu $130 on ebay, header chip set for $8.00. A bin from a friend at ka-t.org, or the eccs forums.480sx wrote:Kid, you can pick up RB20 motorset for ~1000 dollars. It, along with the Ca, is the predecessor to the SR and the rest of the RB series. The motor has such a short stroke and a FCW crank, with a little work you can spin it up to 8-9 k, spool a huge turbo and make massive power. Its an inline 6, an inherently efficient engine design.
Absolutely dude, because thats reality. It's proof with power at the wheels. What don't you understand about this basic concept? Are you mental? I guess so.480sx wrote:You think throwing up those dyno sheets supports your opinion at all? Seriously, you are a retard.
No starting a stupid argument with me, and name calling that has no base makes you a grease monkey.480sx wrote:LOL at calling me a grease monkey.
BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH11!!!1!!!!! Omfg, thanks. Dude on the real, that paragraph shows how your really nothing more than a blow hard who reads things and thinks he knows stuff. You read the wrong things, you dont know s***. You have very little if any first hand knowledge or experience in this area outside your realm of the interwebz. Everything you talk about is 'theory', and you dont know a significant enough portion of basic forced induction theory to hold a candle in an argument or discussion. Unless you are talking about it with other people who dont know jack. At least they can admit it..Bigvinnie wrote:
You obviously don't get out much. Rev doesn't mean s*** for spool. Go back to school and learn about thermal dynamic principles. it's about heat transfer which infact an engine with larger displacement will transfer more heat, thus creating faster spool. Rev range doesn't mean s***! If it did you would see little honda engines making a gazillion HP. All rev is an equivelant too is top speed, with the extended range of the RB it will go faster with the same gearing that it shares to the KA. A KA will generate more spool at 5000RPM then the RB20 will at 5000RPM, that is a FACT.
Damn you even have the ability to redefine 'slang' to your own convenience. Vinster, you really are the man.Bigvinnie wrote:No starting a stupid argument with me, and name calling that has no base makes you a grease monkey.
So what have you proven? Nothing. No dyno's, No Pictures, Nothing. Your non constructive approach, and claim to know sh^t attitude. Your a waste of my time, and everybodys for that matter. the dude that started this thread obviously isn't happy with the RB20, and yiou think for some reason you will sway him. Atleast he's owned an RB I doubt you ever had. I have proven enough in this thread. When you can be constructive rather than a child maybe people in this forum would take you seriously. You are the butt of the joke..480sx wrote:
BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH11!!!1!!!!! BLAH BLAH I truly am hard gay, I NEVER HAVE PROOF OF ANYTHING, AND CHOSE TO BE NON CONSTRUCTIVE AND OFFEND PEOPLE.