KA24DE build- let me know what YOU want

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i got a ka24de motor totally stripped down its just a long block. pistons/rods, heads, block, timing etc. so i create this topic to see what people would do in this situation. tell me brand and why? if there is some setup that seems appealing to me i will be going with it. as of right now i think i have my mind made up, but i wanna see what others would do in this situation. my car is 91 240sx hatch completely stock. a street machine that can drift and drag is what im aiming for haha


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bonestock240sx wrote:i got a ka24de motor totally stripped down its just a long block. pistons/rods, heads, block, timing etc. so i create this topic to see what people would do in this situation. tell me brand and why? if there is some setup that seems appealing to me i will be going with it. as of right now i think i have my mind made up, but i wanna see what others would do in this situation. my car is 91 240sx hatch completely stock. a street machine that can drift and drag is what im aiming for haha
run some b16 pistons with a gsr head and type ARE!! internals man ultimate drift machine!!

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ha ha that was faster than i thought. sounds interesting. ill look into it. i will be researching all ideas. unless people give a good reason why for their idea.

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Horsepower goals?

Budget?

Suspension setup?

Really, you're going to need to give us more info. Don't be so vague.

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I hope you know xxxgerson13 was joking. If not, put on your flame suit immediately.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:I hope you know xxxgerson13 was joking. If not, put on your flame suit immediately.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:I hope you know xxxgerson13 was joking. If not, put on your flame suit immediately.

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lol no i know he was joking. but horsepower goals not neccesarily sure. im mainly going for price, im just looking into name brands that do their purpose but arent expensive because of their name. so i guess for horsepower would be like still use 93 octane and ill be turboing it but i guess im going for a budget build. and for suspension ill probably going with like megan racing suspension track series unless i can find something better for a decent price. rightnow im finding most of my prices and products on frsport and enjukuracing

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Well stock internals are good for well over 300HP. If you're gonna be going over that, start with the head. Save the bottom end for last. Anything around or over 350, you should be looking at a complete overhaul if you want a RELIABLE engine.

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ight i knew they were good for right around 300-350 ish cus i was thinking with going for forged rods and pistons from cp. and bc 264 cams cus i didnt want to replace my retainers. then im going to get my head done but i read somewhere that the head doesnt really need any work.... is that true. then of course turbo. not decided on that yet.

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bonestock240sx wrote:lol no i know he was joking. but horsepower goals not neccesarily sure. im mainly going for price, im just looking into name brands that do their purpose but arent expensive because of their name. so i guess for horsepower would be like still use 93 octane and ill be turboing it but i guess im going for a budget build. and for suspension ill probably going with like megan racing suspension track series unless i can find something better for a decent price. rightnow im finding most of my prices and products on frsport and enjukuracing
Bro i tell you what you want reliability throw in a vtec head and call it a day man haha naw dude just look into building a head for that car man bottom end is pretty strong.

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AZ is right you have to fine tune your plans here if you want a drag car your not gonna have a drift car. You can have a decent one of either and still DD it but not full out-if you want a drift car then you dont need a great amount of HP where as drag your going to want more power.

No one is going to feed you every bit of info but if you decide what you want and do some searching then you will be just fine

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Well, if you're looking for good QUALITY engine information and advice, 240gen is not the place for it, lol. Here's the link to the KA-T section. You will get much more detailed answers from people that know what they're doing. Unlike me, lol.

zeroforum/170

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mmm honda!!!!! is so awesome. just playing ight. ill look into that. i was under the impression that i would need to be rebuilding to be safe. but if i dont then that will save me some money if i dont have to buy bottom end stuff

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o no i know that im not asking for answers im just seeing what others would do. im not asking for handouts just gettin other opininons. ive been up and down and in and out of of this site ka-t 240.org ive been everywhere. just somethings i have read dont seem always reliable. such as people like gen. who say stuff but dont really know

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bonestock240sx wrote:o no i know that im not asking for answers im just seeing what others would do. im not asking for handouts just gettin other opininons. ive been up and down and in and out of of this site ka-t 240.org ive been everywhere. just somethings i have read dont seem always reliable. such as people like gen. who say stuff but dont really know
where else have you beeN???

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nico/240sx.org/ka-t.org/buddies who have been through the process/and my buddy who is a mechanic on these wonderous machines. but everyone has their own experiences and i would just like hear some of them. or if this product is better than that but cheaper. and all that such

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bonestock240sx wrote:nico/240sx.org/ka-t.org/buddies who have been through the process/and my buddy who is a mechanic on these wonderous machines. but everyone has their own experiences and i would just like hear some of them. or if this product is better than that but cheaper. and all that such
FO SHO!! Youve been where ive been man.

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so yeah peopl are taking this the wrong way. im not looking for handouts of information just looking for experiences.

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bonestock240sx wrote:so yeah peopl are taking this the wrong way. im not looking for handouts of information just looking for experiences.
yeah dude were just giving you a hard time man.

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actually im doing the same build but if i were you i would really do the bottom end first cuz yall are talkin about the bottom end being strong well for the most part yea but the rods in ka24de's are actually a week point if your planning on boosting or looking for over 320hp you need some bottom end work i would save the head for last but you should really go through the head also im puttin all my money in the bottom end and just goin through the head cuz unless you put bigger cams in it you shouldnt have to worry about it,hope that gives you some insight bud

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thats all it takes a person that can relate good information without mouthing off. good stuff. alright so pistons and rods would be a good idea. this is what i plan so far. replace pistons rods with cp i think that would put me at 9.5ish:1 then 264 BC cams both intake and exhaust. then head work appraently (the guy was obviously wrong cus i just read that the intake is very well machined but the exhaust is rather restrictive. has for suspension im looking at megan racing. i already have 3 inch exhaust all the way back. so now i need to get the fuel going as well. looking for about 300 ish horsepower but who knows that stuff is addictive and ill probably end up wanting more. so i guess really i would want to make a good base that would be applicale for more horsepower but im also wanting this thing to be streetable.

ANYWAY THIS TOPIC is about experience and things you wish you would have done or could have done

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exactly,see all i can say im doing to the head so far is just port and polish the exhaust is a little restrictive but not much to worry about as long as you dont have a stock manifold on a 300hp monster ya know,if your not looking to boost then a simple header and maybe bore the exhaust ports a bit will be fine,any other way i can help bud let me know,and i posted new topic curious about cheap turbo kits if ya got any ideas let me kno,thanks mac

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my buddy who used to race this as Formula drifter said f***ing ebay kits all the way. the people that get screwed over are the retard who slap it on and jsut run boost out the a**. and its not hard to slightly modify them to make the mani's better and the turbo just needs to have enough oil going to it. and yeah sure you cant be overboosting but you can still boost quite high. just people dont take care of their stuff. so really dude ebay stuff. so yeah but thanks for not being an a** and trying to dog on other people cus you feel like your the king of the world. and dont talk a huge game from behind a computer

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no prob man im not a member to be a d*** i really want to talk to other enthusiasts and help them out and just talk about 240's haha,and as for the ka-t i mean you can boost any stock motor 5 or 6 pounds without blowin it as long as you take care of it but ill see what i can do,glad i could help bro,where you from?

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Little Medical Lake, Washington way far away. and im not talking boost on car but actual boost on the turbo. cus everyone says they are crappy and break. but just take care of the turbo itself and it should be fine.

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oh yea adaquate oil is key,especially at shut down.you really want fresh oil in your turbo when you shut it off,hence the turbo timer


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