ka...wait no sr..wait..no..ka yeah..ka..or..crap. gimme advise ppl

[nisstek2]

ok...so i have been researching for like 2 months now and just cant seem to come to a final. i know 4 things...i want to stick with n/a, i want itb's, i would like to get 200whp, and i want it to be reliable for everyday use. now here is my delima. i have read about the n/a ka builds and to me have found more ppl saying the single cam is more capable of acheving higher hp. (not sure where but i read using older block "a" from this datsun and crank "b" from this datsun with the ka24e pistons/rod combo and ka24e head with itb's and a really great tune you get upwards of 200whp), and most ppl i see with the ka24de are gettin around 170ish whp with cams/headwork, tune, i/h/e blah blah. now i have also researched the sr20de and sr20ve option. it seems like a little xtra work but in theory would rev to 8500 and get well over 200whp. i know the sr is a smooth engine to rev but i cant get past the torque of the ka engines. i know i dont want to build a ka or an sr that gets low hp (ka) or low torque (sr). but dont wanna sacrifice too much torque. please dont tell me to turbo cause i do not want to turbo this car. not to be different or cause everyone has a turbo motor. i am reluctant on the sr due to the whole engine swap thing then a head swap, but then i would still have to find parts for the ka and rebuld yadda yadda, you get the point. just someone give me a good reason to go with one or the other... dang it someone give me some advise....

[xX RB Xx]

SR20

[Scuffed_ChukiCoupe]

seriously... buy an sr block, bore it out and put ka internals. Best of both worlds.

[nisstek2]

why sr? do you think the ka is not reliable at this level of performance? i am pretty sure, contrary to popular beleif, that the ka is capable of getting to 200whp with the right mods...gimme some reasons to your opinion on the sr...thanks for reading

[nisstek2]

[QUOTE=Scuffed_ChukiCoupe]seriously... buy an sr block, bore it out and put ka internals. Best of both worlds. [/QUOTE}

wait what? is this possible..?? what do you think the performance advantages of this

[xX RB Xx]

why sr? do you think the ka is not reliable at this level of performance? i am pretty sure, contrary to popular beleif, that the ka is capable of getting to 200whp with the right mods...gimme some reasons to your opinion on the sr...thanks for reading

because unlike youself.. i dont want to dump a whole bunch of money into a ka where i can just swap in a sr20 for the same price and the same hp.

i have no problems with ka.. its a good engine,

[nisstek2]

agreed the sr is capable of better hp numbers, but unfortunatly i cant seem to find alot of dynos on the n/a sr, but i would like to see one with decent similar mods to compare to the k/a. if the sr is only gonna get me the same hp with similar mods as the ka..i might as well keep the ka, save the money that i would have used on the sr swap and do something beneficial to the ka..not trying to argure your opinion, just trying to get a good reason to go with sr other than the obvious

[tre4s13]

It all depends on which would you rather fix, blown head gasket (KA) or busted valve train (SR)

Nuff said.

[nisstek2]

you think either engine will be unreliable?

[xX RB Xx]

agreed the sr is capable of better hp numbers, but unfortunatly i cant seem to find alot of dynos on the n/a sr, but i would like to see one with decent similar mods to compare to the k/a. if the sr is only gonna get me the same hp with similar mods as the ka..i might as well keep the ka, save the money that i would have used on the sr swap and do something beneficial to the ka..not trying to argure your opinion, just trying to get a good reason to go with sr other than the obvious

are you wanting to go n/a or turbo?

iev seen boosted ka(s) run good and run bad.. i can say the same thing about sr(s).. its just a matter of how well you maintain the engine..

[Koshin]

SR > KA-T

an SR with mild mods can make 300whp...a KA-T can make the same power but it will cost you twice the monies and it will blow up and die...unless you want to spend stupid money into building one, then pick your poison

[Koshin]

It all depends on which would you rather fix, blown head gasket (KA) or busted valve train (SR)

Nuff said.

pffft...

RAS ftw

nothing else breaks in an SR valvetrain...none that Ive ever had

[nisstek2]

n/a man, i guess what i am looking for is some actual experiences with these engines and if one of the two is gonna be a better n/a choice. i dont care aboutr 9000rpm pulls or bragging about hp numbers. i want to know witch engine is gonna be functional/reliable at 200+hp..and whats the first 3 letters of functional??? FUN!.........i'm not making a track car weekend car or race car by any means. just a fun in the corners daily beater.

[nisstek2]

SR > KA-T

an SR with mild mods can make 300whp...a KA-T can make the same power but it will cost you twice the monies and it will blow up and die...unless you want to spend stupid money into building one, then pick your poison

look..no offense but if you cant take the time to read my post, dont waste your time replying to it. i specifically said i dont wanna go turbo. i'm not a hp freak and i dont need something that i cant have fun in around my area..lots of corners..very few straight stretches...thanks tho

[Koshin]

OOoooof

I read your horsepower numbers that you wanted and assumed that you are going turbo...200+hp is gonna be nearly impossible out of an NA SR or a KA...it gonna take stupid monies and wont be as cool as a boosted one...

if you want a fun corner daily beater, spend money on suspension and tires...and keep your KA mostly stock

[S13_love]

LS1

[Kalypso]

twin turbo ls1

[nisstek2]

koshin..what do you think about this theory/myth. somewhere on the internet. there is a post sayin that the datsun z24 block with ka24e pistons/rods and the datsun l20 crank and the ka24e head, with cam and itb's is knockin down over 200whp..of course this is with a standalone and lots and lots of tuning i assume..

[S13_love]

twin turbo ls1

You win.

[nisstek2]

LS1

hell no, lets keep it clean here ppl..no blaphemy on this thread heredam..might as well kicked me in the nuts lol

[Koshin]

koshin..what do you think about this theory/myth. somewhere on the internet. there is a post sayin that the datsun z24 block with ka24e pistons/rods and the datsun l20 crank and the ka24e head, with cam and itb's is knockin down over 200whp..of course this is with a standalone and lots and lots of tuning i assume..

jeez kid...youre driving me nuts, youre gonna bust my balls for not reading your post and then you post some s*** like this...

you want it to be a daily, and you dont want turbo....but youre thinking of trying to make 200+hp...then you post this s***, a doped up hybrid KA/z24/i20 engine with ITB's and s***...do you have any idea how much a motor like that would cost? if you want a daily that can carve, do like I said above....and do yourself a favor and buy and swap an SR...save yourself some money...you can drive an SR everyday as long as you dont boost the s*** out of it...

that post went wrong as soon as I read "somewhere on the internet"

lol

[Koshin]

hell no, lets keep it clean here ppl..no blaphemy on this thread heredam..might as well kicked me in the nuts lol

are you going to NICOfest in NAshville??? I will kick you in the nuts

lol

[S13_love]

you want it to be a daily, and you dont want turbo....but youre thinking of trying to make 200+hp...then you post this s***, a doped up hybrid KA/z24/i20 engine with ITB's and s***...do you have any idea how much a motor like that would cost?

That was my thought too...you'll probably (actually, more than likely...) save yourself money by just buying an sr20 man.......but in ya really want an n/a.......

Edit:

hell no, lets keep it clean here ppl..no blaphemy on this thread heredam..might as well kicked me in the nuts lol

You're right...ls1 is not the way to go....it's all about the ls6

[nisstek2]

well considering i am the inlaw of a junkyard owner, know a guy with a machine shop and usually get stuff made free, i work for nissan and dont really have alot of engine building experience but i am trying to get advise from someone who has modified these engines..i'd say i can keep cost down to a minimum and i know i can rely on my nissan bretheren on here to help with questions. a few of the techs i work with (nisstek on here to name one) have swapped sr20det's into some s13/s14s so i know i could go that route. how about the sr20ve head on an n/a sr20de?

[nisstek2]

are you going to NICOfest in NAshville??? I will kick you in the nuts

lol

sure....ly not. i doubt my car will be runnin at that time

[Koshin]

none of them, youve got nine listed in your avatar

[nisstek2]

and you will have to remove my nuts from my wifes grip before you can kick me in them hahahaha

[Koshin]

well considering i am the inlaw of a junkyard owner, know a guy with a machine shop and usually get stuff made free, i work for nissan and dont really have alot of engine building experience but i am trying to get advise from someone who has modified these engines..i'd say i can keep cost down to a minimum and i know i can rely on my nissan bretheren on here to help with questions. a few of the techs i work with (nisstek on here to name one) have swapped sr20det's into some s13/s14s so i know i could go that route. how about the sr20ve head on an n/a sr20de?

do what you want bro...your easiest most cost-effective route is an SR

I give up...good luck buddy

and you will have to remove my nuts from my wifes grip before you can kick me in them hahahaha

you somewhat redeemed yourself with that post...lol

poor guy

[nisstek2]

i

none of them, youve got nine listed in your avatar

if i come i'm bringin the s13..the 300zx has no brakes or rear diff, the altima the woman drives, and i dont think i would be too cool rollin to a nissan car meet driving a honda lol

[Koshin]

dont show up in a Honda...lol

the d!ck punching would commence