ka-t vs. sr-t cost wise??

[rubin]

i know the basicssr is lighter, revs higher and is STOCK with turbo

ka is heavier and torquier

the way i see it is i will have to spend like 3 grand to swap to an sr and from there mods should be easy and plentiful

with a ka tho im not sure. how much will it cost to convert to a turbo? once turboed how hard would it be to modify? like how hard is it to find parts and stuff

[rubin]

also how much heavier is the ka as compared to an sr

and lets say im aiming at 300 hphow much would it cost to go either way?

[TheOne]

go with the ka, if its in good condition.

as for cost wise, for the sr you first need an sr for swappin the sr which only nets ya 200hp(to the crank, dunno) then you gotta buy a better turbo for 300hp(the stock goes out at 15psi or less, 15psi is allready makin it a heat pump)

the ka itself will stand 350hp without having to do anything internally(pistons, connecting rods not needed), so you would just need a turbo kit(check sponsors) or piece your own and get somebody to tune it if you don't know how.

now.....do a search, like some will tell ya:).

[WDRacing]

Here is the biggest reason I would go KAT. When you turbo up the KA, you get to pick all your parts. So you get a great turbo and manifold from the get go, all cheaper then a SR swap. So you've got a motor that will now make 350 whp all day. In order for any SR to make that much power your going to spend the same amount of money you just spent with the KAT turbo kit. Cause you need a bigger turbo and all the fuel management to go with.

There really is no cost comparison.

[rubin]

correct me if im wrong but is this all i would need to do a conversion

manifold, turbo, downpipepiping from air filter to turbo and from turbo to intakethats the basics

is the fuel management unit a must from the start? and are bigger rail and injectors a must right away as well? or can i wait on these items once my current system isnt able to handle the power?

i know eventually my maf and fuel pump will need to be swapped as well

[rubin]

also sint the ka compression a bit high for turbo?? i believe its at 9.1... no?

[Craving4Boost]

i say forget about the money...people have been varying from all kinds of prices...junkyard style...medium...expensive but well worth it....i say just spend that money and have fun like we all do....i'm not saying spend your rent money or anything..but hey..boost is pretty addicting

[hysteria]

you should choose your parts depending on how much power you want to start with, and how much you want to achieve later... there are the cheaper kits that will not be very good for making more power later, but if you're content with ~7 or 8 psi for a long time then go the cheap way and just get a rising rate fuel pressure regulator as your temporary fuel management and then when you want more power sell it on ebay and get something more substantial(upgraded injectors and a piggy back, rom tuen or stand alone system... go to this site >> http://www.boostdesigns.comthey probably have the most cost effective kit on the market, because it comes with EVERYTHING... the greddy kit (with the intercooler) or any other kit with an intercooler and plumbing is quite expensive compared to the boost designs kit (haha free advertising here by me), and the quality is comparable. i've heard bad stories about every kit out there so it's kind of hit or miss any way you go. of course you're much more likely to "hit" if you listen to what people have to say about all the kits and choose accordingly.like wd said above even if you went with one of the more expensive kits like phat ka-t (but quality is through the roof), you will still not end up spending as much as the sr to make the horsepower you are probably aiming for ( i am guessing it's less than 350)... when you get into higher more extreme numbers and rebuilding the engines and all then the prices start to even out and the sr and ka start costing the same (i am talking about 500+ hp range) but until then you will most likely spend much less with the kat because you don't have to buy a $2000 engine and then upgrade everything on it. you start with the engine in hand and then just upgrade everything.... so roughly i'd say you stand to save at least $2000 by sticking with the ka turbo.

[TK_Encore]

super old thread i know but, basically i just want to get turbo first the cheapest way(not crap cheap, just low). not sure how much longer my motor(Ka24e) is gonna last so i just wanna get started with a new motor(ka24de-t or SR). So basically he is saying ka-t is cheaper at first, then it will all even out with more power?

im know im noob but your help is greatly appreciated

[hahanoonehasthisnameyet]

Hey I learned a lot from it so I thank you for asking the noobie question cuz I was going to. Not that I'm guna boost any time soon but I'm always dreaming of a sweep Whp/torque set up and which way to do it on a budget.

[480sx]

You can do a t25 bottom mount setup for around 1500 dollars. Its the way to go for boost on a budget.

[abc123omg]

if it helps at all, i got my whole t25 setup done for 700$and i think im running low 200whp, which i fun as hell to drive

and the ka is usdm, so parts are basically guaranteed to be found in the US almost everywhere
Modified by abc123omg at 9:55 PM 10/5/2008

[moulton712]

one plus about ka-t is say you blow your motor, finding a replacement is way cheaper than buying an sr. but then after you go ka-t and are thinking about sr, you can reuse alot of parts. ie: plumbing, fmic or smic, lines, piggyback (if not an ecu tune) etc...

also if you are learning how to drift on a stock ka then you can go up in hp in increments with boost, also you will not have to learn how a different motor handles.

[TK_Encore]

thanks guys, that's really what i needed to know ....when the money starts rollin in ill go for a bigger turbo and all that. but more on that $700 set up pls

[abc123omg]

lolused sr t25ebay intercooler and IC pipingebay bovMR manifold at killer pricemisc oil linessr 370cchacked up but works downpipe

just have to look around for deals man...thats not including my emance tune though...

[TK_Encore]

yea ill be checking the classifieds a lot when that time comes lol

[hahanoonehasthisnameyet]

if you plan to run low psi boost at first you can get away with not having to get a ecu or a piggy back. it's like some kind of regulator(fuel i think) that will let you boost like low 6-8 psi no problem. correct me if I'm wrong. it's what i was told. so that help keep you within the budget.

[TK_Encore]

ok thanks i will

[abc123omg]

if you plan to run low psi boost at first you can get away with not having to get a ecu or a piggy back. it's like some kind of regulator(fuel i think) that will let you boost like low 6-8 psi no problem. correct me if I'm wrong. it's what i was told. so that help keep you within the budget.

yea, i belive you can just use walbro and a 8:1 fmu