KA-T Parts List - Need Your Advice

[matt0941]

The following is a parts list for my KA Turbo Street Driven Project. This will be for a 1998 240SX SE with 5-spd transmission and 25k miles on it. I will be boosting 7 psi daily and 12 psi for track. I would appreciate any additions to the following that you think that I have left out. Also, if you see that I my pricing is above a price that you know of PLEASE tell me. Thank You.

-Garrett T3/T04E Hybrid Turbo - .63 A/R - 50 trim - Stage III wheel ($550)

-Tial 35mm Wastegate ($190) -Small Red (.45 Bar) Spring ($10)

-Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump ($125 shipped)

-Z32 MAF (~$80)

-GP Sports Spec D Cat-Back ($350 shipped)

-Greddy E-Manage System ($850 shipped) -Greddy E-manage Main Unit ($280 shipped) -Greddy Profec E-01 ($490 shipped) -E-manage Injector Harness ($32) -E-manage Ignition Harness ($34) -Profec E-01 meter Cable ($6) -USB Cable ($9)

-F-Max Manifold ($500)

-Z32 Fuel Filter ($20)

-Greddy 60mm Boost Gauge - Mechanical ($95) -Greddy 60mm EGT Gauge - Electric ($150)

-JGY Customs Top Feed Fuel Rail + 50lb injectors + 4 Injector Harnesses ($410)

-Greddy VSPL Front Mount Intercooler Kit - USED ($600 shipped)

-HKS SSQV($185)

-Heavy Throttle Silver Coated 3" S13 Down Pipe($129)

-Stainless Steel oil Feed/Return lines ($50)

-SPEC Stage II Clutch Kit ($300)

P.S. Please refrain from any 'You should go SR' comments or anything along those lines.

Thanks in advance, Matt

[JayPat83]

sounds about right.

[cnichols]

Oil Pressure, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure Gauges and a Wideband 02 with display of some sort.

Don't leave those out.

[encasemyheart]

-Tial 35mm Wastegate ($190) -Small Red (.45 Bar) Spring ($10)

You may want to go with a 38mm Tial or 35mm HP if you are running over 10-12psi of boost, a few people have them start boost creeping above that.

-Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump ($125 shipped)

I'm not sure where you are getting this, but autoperfoemanceengineering.com has them for like $95 + shipping...they are VERY reliable and fast too.

-F-Max Manifold ($500)

I am going with the U-H manifold, it's virtually identical to the FMax except it is $450 SHIPPED and it comes with a flange for the downpipe.

-Greddy 60mm Boost Gauge - Mechanical ($95) -Greddy 60mm EGT Gauge - Electric ($150)

Autometers work just as well for tons less, but if you want to pay for the Greddy name...

-JGY Customs Top Feed Fuel Rail + 50lb injectors + 4 Injector Harnesses ($410)

Where are you getting this? I am getting the same setup from UH for $430 shipped, this might be a little cheaper for you depending on whether your $410 is shipped or not. Plus the UH one has MSD injectors, once again I don't know the specifics of what you are getting.

-Greddy VSPL Front Mount Intercooler Kit - USED ($600 shipped)

My setup used a Spearco intercooler $435 shipped with piping from JC Whitney. ~$75-85 You will need piping anyways because I'm fairly sure the Greddy kit will not line up correctly.

-HKS SSQV($185)

Good choice, the HKS is top of the line.

-Heavy Throttle Silver Coated 3" S13 Down Pipe($129)

Since you do not have an SR, I'm sure having a exhaust shop fab this will be cheaper. You will probably need to modify this pipe anyways to fit, so why not get it all done? Plus I was told that 3" is too big for the t3/t04e hybrid, you may have to take it down to 2 1/2" until the cat.

-Stainless Steel oil Feed/Return lines ($50)

-SPEC Stage II Clutch Kit ($300)

Do you happen to know how much torque this clutch will hold?

[matt0941]

Thanks alot for the replies. The clutch will hold 300 ft/lbs but I have decided to install it later.

As for the SR DP I will probably go custom since you are correct, I will have to custom fab anyways.

[matt0941]

Oil Pressure, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure Gauges and a Wideband 02 with display of some sort.

Don't leave those out.

I am not using water temp and fuel pressure gauges. But as for wideband o2, don't you mean just a bung for the wideband when I am on the dyno?

[cnichols]

Nope, run a second wideband O2 with it's own display inside the car so you always know your A/F ratio....

http://www.streetelite.net/GaugeCluster0006.jpg

The standalone I have can be set to recognize a 5V O2 sensor so I only need one. The FJO I have is used by Holley on their dyno, so I figure it'll be pretty accurate.

And, why not using a fuel pressure or water temp gauge?

[toki]

please take a look at my other thread in this forum to try and get a complete list of turbo parts and prices together for everyone, and possibly add part or all of this setup with where you are buying from, thank you.

[matt0941]

I can't really form a list of where I am purchasing these things from. Much of it is from a friend who owns a shop. But feel free to shoot me an email if you think I have something at a good price that you want and I will do my best to hook anyone up.

As for a complete list that is hard for me to do at the moment as there are so many bungs and misc. pipes and couplings that it would be a nuisance.

[Xero]

And, why not using a fuel pressure or water temp gauge?

what's with all the ****ing gauges? you don't need that many. water temp, the stock one works fine, fuel pressure, it'll be fine since he's using the E-Manage to lengthen the injector pulse, not running a FMU, if something like that screws up when he's driving he's screwed anyway. By the time he'd see that fuel pressure dropped, he'll be a knocking mess.

A/F, boost, and MAYBE EGT is all you really need, especially since 12psi is his highest goal for now. The E-Manage unit will help him alot too...

**sorry for my shortness, but people seem to think that you need 5 million gauges to make sure everything is running right,

[WDRacing]

Matt, buy a knock meter...a good one is expensive. But they've saved me on more then one occasion. MSD makes a nice one. Thats the one I use, even you can hook it up...lol. Try http://www.summitracing.com or http://www.jegs.com

WD

[TomsMR2]

-Greddy E-Manage System ($850 shipped) -Greddy E-manage Main Unit ($280 shipped) -Greddy Profec E-01 ($490 shipped) -E-manage Injector Harness ($32) -E-manage Ignition Harness ($34) -Profec E-01 meter Cable ($6) -USB Cable ($9)

being pwn3d by fake engine management... priceless.

thats $1701. you can get an Accell DFI for about $1400-$1600, which is real standalone engine management, which will have far more fully tunable parameters and be beyond more reliable, and create more power. oh, and you could ditch anything you dont like.. like distributers, afms, stock throttle bodies etc etc.

[TomsMR2]

plus the tuning screen is cool :P

http://force-efi.com/dfi.htm

[WDRacing]

Matt email me [email protected] we need to talk about your turbine kit fuel management.

WD

[hannibal]

Tom, I agree that for the price of all the Greddy stuff, Matt could run a full standalone system. But for me (and others that are new to this), I dont have knowledge needed to set up a standalone.How much would it cost to have someone tune the SA on a dyno?If that cost is reasonable, getting a SA and having a shop tune it might still be cheaper (and better) than the Greddy setup.

And MAtt, Ive been following a lot of your posts cause we seem to have similar goals. I hope this turns out well for you...

Jay

[TomsMR2]

Tom, I agree that for the price of all the Greddy stuff, Matt could run a full standalone system. But for me (and others that are new to this), I dont have knowledge needed to set up a standalone.How much would it cost to have someone tune the SA on a dyno?If that cost is reasonable, getting a SA and having a shop tune it might still be cheaper (and better) than the Greddy setup.

Jay

you'd need knowledge to install and tune the greedy system as well. it doesnt just plug in and magically make everything work.

standalone uses less wires too.. plus you can totally junk the million miles of the mess called the stock wire harness. everything is half assed besides standalone.

im going halfassed on my turbo because im running low boost, and its OBSURDLY cheaper. $250 FMU+$200 BTM vs the $1400 for standalone. its enough for my goals.. if you're gonna dump thousands into the management, you really should just do it right the first time and get a full EMS.

[cnichols]

Tom, I agree that for the price of all the Greddy stuff, Matt could run a full standalone system. But for me (and others that are new to this), I dont have knowledge needed to set up a standalone.How much would it cost to have someone tune the SA on a dyno?If that cost is reasonable, getting a SA and having a shop tune it might still be cheaper (and better) than the Greddy setup.

And MAtt, Ive been following a lot of your posts cause we seem to have similar goals. I hope this turns out well for you...

Jay

Then how do you expect to obtain the knowledge? If you don't take a chance and try to figure it out yourself, you never will.

[WDRacing]

Its funny you'd spend 250 bucks on an FMU....my standalone fuel system is about the same price and will support up to around 500 or so hp.

WD

[brotherboost]

I'd go with a 57 trim or bigger. On my 1.8L honda I have a 57 trim the spool off the line is quick enough.

[toki]

Everytime I think I know enough to get a turbo project off the ground, and the money, I read a thread like this, and I cry inside.

and WDRacing where did you get a 250 standalone?

[WDRacing]

I'll be selling them with my turbo kits...I didn't find it, I'm making them.

WD

[TomsMR2]

Its funny you'd spend 250 bucks on an FMU....my standalone fuel system is about the same price and will support up to around 500 or so hp.

WD

i know of a standalone fuel system that costs $100, and is fully programmable.. :P its harder than hell to setup tho lol.

ill definately buy your fuel system if its in the price range of FMU's.

you probably dont wanna give away your fueling secrets.. but id just like to know how you're adding fuel... controlled bigger injectors or something?

i wanna see this kit come out..

[WDRacing]

A few more months my friend, I wanna see it happen more then you guys do. Since I'm getting out of the USAF and this will be my lively hood for the rest of my life.

WD

[PapaSmurf2k3]

Everytime I think I know enough to get a turbo project off the ground, and the money, I read a thread like this, and I cry inside.

I hear you, I have the biggest pile of turbo **** sitting in my closet just waiting to go in, and every week i discover something that im missing and have to get. I just got my oil lines in today from http://www.cheapturbolines.com and I was wondering if anyone else has used these, and if you still need to buy the little plate thing that goes in between your oil filter and block to make a oil send line. (sorry, I havent ripped open the plastic bag with the directions in it because its got a gasket in there and id probably end up losing/folding it somehow. Also, I have the E-manage already up and running (except the boost part, and the ignition part) does anybody know what ECU wire to tap into for ignition control? ive tried like 3 so far and every time the car wont start and I have to put them back together and start over again, and Im tired of looking at the FSM wiring diagram. Thanks a TON!