Ka stroker kit Questions

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Kaforlife
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Alright right now I’m in the process of building my motor. I plan on boosting so you know the whole deal with changing out everything. I’m thinking about getting a stocker kit for my ka. I know I know the ka already has a long stroke at 91mm but there are many cars that have turbos and have a long stroke take the cobra svt and ls1 camaro and that engines has a 103mm stroke and those cars are bad turbo or supercharged. I don’t really care about reving high because torque happens in the low rpm range, and torque wins races not horse power. Plus stroke out the ka and you have like a 2.6 and everyone knows there no replacement for displacement I don’t care how much you boost that saying holds true. Just want to know what you guys think about stroking out the ka is it worth it. Sorry for making you read all of that


Kaforlife
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Alright right now I’m in the process of building my motor. I plan on boosting so you know the whole deal with changing out everything. I’m thinking about getting a stocker kit for my ka. I know I know the ka already has a long stroke at 91mm but there are many cars that have turbos and have a long stroke take the cobra svt and ls1 camaro and that engines has a 103mm stroke and those cars are bad turbo or supercharged. I don’t really care about reving high because torque happens in the low rpm range, and torque wins races not horse power. Plus stroke out the ka and you have like a 2.6 and everyone knows there no replacement for displacement I don’t care how much you boost that saying holds true. Just want to know what you guys think about stroking out the ka is it worth it. Sorry for making you read all of that

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DroptopDrifting
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um, im basically gonna ignore most of what you said and leave it at this.....very few people have used the bc 2.65L stroker kit so far. and i honestly dont think it's worth the 3grand to in parts. get a forged bottom end and a nice turbo setup and you'll be dandy. just remember, it's all in the tune. doesnt matter what parts you have as long as you tune it right. but honestly, if you're on a budget, i've spent about $3500 on (all brand new) a t3/t4 50 trim, 38mm wastegate, BOV, FMIC, 550cc inj, adj. fpr, walbro pump, msd SCI-L, msd blaster 2, apexi safcII, zeitronix wb02, timing rebuild kit, lower temp plugs/wires, SS braided oil lines, rear brembos, front z32 conv., kyb struts/shocks, tein springs, n62maf, front anti-roll bar, 17" msr gunmetal/chrome lip wheels, and im sure im forgetting something ya know. (havent bought tires yet)

ive yet to put it all in, but thats what the winters for. the shop/dyno im workin with agree that i should be around the 280whp easy and thats without doing any internals, estimated 10psianyway, compare what i got for between $3-3500 with the stroker kit that costs just as much. tell me which is more worth it? lol

im not saying dont do it, it'd be interesting, never seen anyone do it yet and im sure if you have a large budget it will probably be worth it, esp if you're fully building your longblock. i'd like to see how it turns out. let me know.

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DevilMB3017
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I think you are confusing yourself here. Torque happens throughout the power-band of a properly tuned motor. Comparing a Cobra/LS1 to a KA is like apples and oranges. They're usually built for different things.

What are you trying to do with your car? Drag, drift, auto-x, street, etc.? And then you can analyze what you need to accomplish a goal.

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I'm kinda weary of the stroker kit.

But someone here wrote Crower an email asking how it would respond under boost, and Crower said quite well.

So hey if they stand behind it then I don't think it's that bad. I would worry about the cyl walls cracking.

AMS Cracked their at 700hp. What would a stroked engine crack at.

Think about it ... Is it worth the extra .2 liters?

Florida240sx
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Rather forge and build the head than stroke it.

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Crazyirish
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Lacking any real experience here, but I would say that displacement is already one of the ka's strengths. Instead do what the prev replier said: Forged internals and a built head.

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GriffinW
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word.

Its all in the tune. I hate the fact that a stroker kit for a small block chevy is 500 dollars and ours is 3500 dollars.

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Brandon93240
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Bc didn't really intend for people to use it just n/a. They figured if you had the money to stroke it then you have the money to boost it too. The 2 together is a whip *** combo. Besides 3500 isn't that much. I spent 2700 in machine work on my last ka build. And if you talk about budget you shouldn't do either one just stay n/a. Gotta pay to play.

yellowcar
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I bought the BC stroker kit for the KA I am putting in my 510.I basically bought everything they make for the motor; cams, valves, stroker kit etc..Unfortunately the project is waiting for the builders to finish my shop so I have some room to finish the car so I won’t have any dyno results for a while.I am building an N/A motor because I just don’t like turbos (heat kills things and turbo lag is a pain)

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Brandon93240
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Thats cool, everyone has their taste. What all is done to your 510? Sorry for the thread jack op.

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The kit will be able to handle a LOT more rev's than you stock shtuff can. Just make sure when you get the kit, you take it all the the machine shop together. That way they can ballance evrything. (I.E. crank, rods, pistons w/ rings installed, crank pulley, and flywheel.) The more ballanced, the better.

yellowcar
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Brandon93240 wrote:Thats cool, everyone has their taste. What all is done to your 510?
I just started a thread on the project, take a look.zer...88475


Kaforlife
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Sounds I'm going to have to check that out

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chandler
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im more interested in it because of a fully counterweighted crank any input on that part of the equation?

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You should join in a group buy with me, and try to get AMS to go through with a few of their FCW cranks. Its cheaper than the stroker kit by a lot, and doesnt require changing the stock rod length. The only downside would be the wait for the crank..

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Brandon93240 wrote: Besides 3500 isn't that much. I spent 2700 in machine work on my last ka build. And if you talk about budget you shouldn't do either one just stay n/a. Gotta pay to play.
Amen to that brother

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well ..guess ill start here..i dont know what your using it for..but 3k on a stroker kit and a plan to boost for someone with limited abilitys to begin with will be a waste...no offence...if you donot have the experience to lay the power to the ground...then a boosted stroker kit..would be cash down the pot.....the reason i know you have limited abilitys..is becouse your asking what would be good for your car...a true driver with experience grows out of limited platforms and hungers for more..they allso know there limitations..and reaserch there targeted horsepower range, vehicle wieght and balance of the platform they choose...im not putting you down..dont take this wrong..im just trying to convince you to save your cash..for when its time...if ya need a rebuild on your ka..then just get some forged stuff..rods,pistons and some arp studs...this should suit you fine for some time..untill you have grown into the next level of your style of racing...i wish you well sire..good luck

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480sx
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I hate it when this happens.. Check the post date of this thread.

Noobs pointless bumping threads ftl.

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damn..old thread..wasted my efforts...friggin bumps


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