KA stoker kits

[cdnite]

My shop is building a Project car for on-track Drifting only. Can anyone recommend a KA24DE stroker kit?I heard some one has a 2.7L stroker but we cant find it.

Also actual experiance with them you could share would be get too.

Any other products that you’ve used or heard of and can recommend would be great.

Thanks Guys --Chris

[H.D.HUMPERDINK]

The biggest problem with this kit is 1. the ka already has a long stroke, but more importantly 2. the company cuts and welds the stock crank. http://importperformanceparts.net/You would be better off spending the money on a custom light wieght billet crank from a company like scat.

try searching next time.

[ShionS14]

why do people always insist on stroking the motor? if you want a challange, you need to reinforce and fully balance the bottom end and the valve train. then try to get it to flow enough air to extend the power band a bit.

[Bigvinnie]

My shop is building a Project car for on-track Drifting only. Can anyone recommend a KA24DE stroker kit?I heard some one has a 2.7L stroker but we cant find it.

Also actual experiance with them you could share would be get too.

Any other products that you’ve used or heard of and can recommend would be great.

Thanks Guys --Chris

If you are using this particular engine for drifting or even AUTO X, you would want to use methods of engineering that would increase rev and redline. Stroker kits do exactly the opposite. If you want a KA to function and make good power you should focus on refining the bottom end with some knife edging, and a crank scraper and a windage tray. KA already has too large of a stroke, if you look at how simple it is, it is nothing more but a L20b with a much larger stroke, and bore. Stroking the KA is ruining an already good thing..

[pregmantis]

humprdnk, I think that they "cut down" the crank and weld it back up. It kinda sounds misleading and scary the way I read your post. but you probably meant what I described. I dont think its a bad thing at all to stroke the ka. btw, I think scat may be the one doing the work.

[Bigvinnie]

humprdnk, I think that they "cut down" the crank and weld it back up. I dont think its a bad thing at all to stroke the ka. btw, I think scat may be the one doing the work.

First off any crank that is already forged, and then "CUT" no matter what is scary, it weakens the forge. How would you like your engine to explode at 5500+ RPM. Cutting and welding a crank is the most retarded thing I have ever heard of. Also SCAT would NEVER cut and weld a forged crank. I know this because they won't even knife edge the KA crank claiming that it will weaken the forge. I've done business with scat and was in the process to negotiate a fully counter weighed crank for the KA (that fell through). Don't spread around rumors that you know nothing about...... It makes the forums a bad place.

[cdnite]

We called Scat they won’t even touch a Nissan Motor. "All we do is domestic V8s and Honda B & D Motors." Any other Ideas on custom cranks? I did the math and with forged rods we could get almost 2.8L and 6200rpm +-. We just need a crank.

We also Talked to IPP they "rework the crank" and for street apps they've had no failures. I checked on their references this appears to be true. However they did not recommend their kit for high power or race use.

--Chris

[Bigvinnie]

We called Scat they won’t even touch a Nissan Motor. "All we do is domestic V8s and Honda B & D Motors." Any other Ideas on custom cranks? I did the math and with forged rods we could get almost 2.8L and 6200rpm +-. We just need a crank.

--Chris

Well to start I can help you with what ever info you need to get in the right direction. First off I spoke with Bob at SCAT. They actually started with VW and porche engines, then they had gotten into domestics mostly Mopar/chrysler, then it branched off to Ford and Chevy. Just over the past 4 years, they have gotten into the import market (specifically B and D series hondas, and even including the H series, and fabrication for K series basically knife edging and refining).

Heres the problem with SCAT which I had recieved the word directly from Bob. There sales on the B and D series cranks are not selling and sitting on the shelf. This means no more R&D for import engines imparticular, from what Bob told me almost 7 months ago.This is what you can do. Bob has told me that in order to get a crank designed of any sort for any particular make or model engine it will cost roughly $500,000 in advance and the work will be done. He made it quite clear that this isn't just a problem for them to design Nissan cranks, but very simply put import tuner dudes are cheap A$$es (my exaggeration of what he told me, to make it blunt and to the point.)So to let you know where infact if anywhere you will get what you need. The only big three dogs on the market right now that do any type of work on fully counter weighed, and or stroker cranks for KA are NISMO (Paul Saintclair), Rebello Racing, or Ed Pink. There was some sort of developement in the works with Ed Pink. Ed Pink by the way is a huge Datsun fanatic, as well as into his chevy's and fords.NISMO only has a highly modified fully counter weighed crank, the stroke has not been increased. There whole bottom assembly runs for about $8000. Rebello racing has done just about any L series stroker known to man and more than likely they can pull strings if you have the money to get whatever you want in developement. Ed Pink and his company pretty much set the standard for the majority of Lseries/KA cranks that you see to date and are more than likely the people you want to talk too if you want to skip the process of talking to Rebello Racing which is nothing more but a middle man to Ed Pink.
Modified by Bigvinnie at 2:37 PM 5/10/2006

[pregmantis]

bigv, I said I think scat did the cranks, that was not a definite answer and was an invitation for whoever was interested to check if i was right. About the crank journals, I dont think that they cut off the journal or any part of the crank and weld it back , they turn down the journal into a smaller journal but offset towards whatever short/long directon then weld whatever material they need to build up the journal. I have seen 2 crower cranks from different racers for the ka fully counterweighted with kinda square weghts prob about $1600 if I remember correctly(each)

[pregmantis]

sorry guys, the crowers were billet cranks and they were flat.

[Bigvinnie]

I just contacted crower they have nothing on file as to a fully counter weighed, balanced, or increased stroke crank shaft for the KA24. If this is something of custom fabrication it will cost way over and above $1600. SCAT doesn't even sell cranks that affordable, and there the most affordable company in the business.Stop your non sence jibber jabber, and show some relative facts....

[sunnys14]

ka's suck, just get a b18

[pregmantis]

whats wit da attitude mang? I wish I could relate more bout the cranks but they were something I wasnt supposed to see, so soethin I wont really talk about. sorry guys. I just mantioned it because the cranks are attainable.

[Bigvinnie]

whats wit da attitude mang? I wish I could relate more bout the cranks but they were something I wasnt supposed to see, so soethin I wont really talk about. sorry guys. I just mantioned it because the cranks are attainable.

You didn't see anything accept for whats in your head........

[SonyPete]

Effin lighten up littlevinnie you are the most non-personable guy on this forum. The guy is trying to do something you frown upon SO WHAT!!

Quote »First off any crank that is already forged, and then "CUT" no matter what is scary, it weakens the forge. How would you like your engine to explode at 5500+ RPM. Cutting and welding a crank is the most retarded thing I have ever heard of. [/quote]The crank is not cut in the literal sense in that it ends up in two pieces, there is no way they could weld it all the way through. The rod area is just offset which then leads to some undersizing of the rod area. Nothing major lots of competent shops can do this kind of work. Only thing is getting 2.7L of displacment out of just 4 cylinders is a little on the extreme end.
Modified by SonyPete at 7:21 PM 5/11/2006

[Bigvinnie]

Effin lighten up littlevinnie you are the most non-personable guy on this forum. The guy is trying to do something you frown upon SO WHAT!!

Hey Sony Pecker the guy is a freakin liar!!!!! He doesn't even know what the frick he is talking about......Talk about factual car stuff in here or just watch what the intelligent people have to say!!!!!!!

I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to share information....FACTUAL information........
Modified by Bigvinnie at 7:29 PM 5/11/2006

[SonyPete]

Umm thats the thing you don't share information you shove it into peoples faces. LOL Treat people in this forum like you would standing infront of someone.

[Bigvinnie]

LOL Treat people in this forum like you would standing infront of someone.

Actually I do. You should see half the retards I talk trash to at the car meets. You should also meet my gang load of friends that get off on the humor when I bust some one out for being a liar...Really I'm a cool guy if you know me, abnd I hate liars, plain and simple.

[pregmantis]

hey big weewee, I really did see the cranks, and I actually helped install one. seriously, though guys, I only mentioned the cranks because I wanted someone to get one and see how it does. the motor I helped build was built about 10years ago. the crank had flat counterweights(if you put the crank on the ground it would only be as thick as the main journals) kinda hard to explain. you see how out counter weights are like bells? well this one was square. and actually to the point of this thread...sorry, I forgot to say that it was not a stroker, it had a standard stroke. I appologize that I cant show a pic as there were no pics taken.

[pregmantis]

hey sonnypete, the way you explained cutting cranks was exactly what I was trying to say. I hope I didnt mislead anyone.

[H.D.HUMPERDINK]

I never said scat was cutting and welding cranks. I email http://importperformanceparts.net/ when the kit first came out and asked them about the kit and they told me that the kit was a cut and welded stock crank

I was telling him to find a company that would build him a new crank

[penpen-commander]

hahahaha.... sigh.