Ka or SR?!?!

[mouse]

I've had my 240 for a couple months and havent had any money so I haven't done any work on it. The car is stock and in rough shape. The engine bay is rusted so I want to fix that if I pull an engine. My next thing is that I really can't decide if I want to go with the stock engine and rebuild it or partially rebuild it to fix its problems, or I should do an SR swap. I guess the reason I am posting is becuase I want to know which engine performs better, and with the same amount of money I would use to buy an Sr which would be like 2500 plus shipping, would i get more than 205 hp from a KA with 2500 into it? I just want a powerful engine with a couple grand into it and for how much an SR costs I'm not too sure its worth the money. I am not putting done either engine and I have been searching around but i thought I might get some feedback posting a thread also. Thanks for your help.:thinker

[mouse]

no one can help me out?

[dabum]

there are several threads that discuss the both motors against eachother.. jus look it up

heres one:http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....t=IMO

ka-t pwns all at least thats what i always thought, especially the new evidence with that site phatka-t.com making 400's on stock ka on standalone.. neway there u go

[mouse]

i appreciate it.

[scruffy63]

well from what i've heard i've come to the conclusion that the sr is good for track racing(revs high) and the ka is good for drag racing(torue monster). I think either would be good for drifting though.so its all what your looking for. but this is just my opinion.

[240Knightrider]

Hey they are both great engines. I was going to go with the KAT but it was going to cost to much for me. I went ahead and am getting the SR. both are great, you said money was tight. Get an SR for low budgets. IMO

[mouse]

how would the sr be for low budgets, i know rebuilding would be costly, but the sr20 off the bat is 2500 plus shipping. at least a rebuild i could do piece by piece.

[240Knightrider]

yeah the sr is for low budgets if that all you want. Eventually both will even out in the LONG run. If you have another engine to use while your building the other one then I dont see it as a problem. Just the KA cost a lot more with parts and labor if you get them installed at a shop.

[mouse]

which parts are cheaper, if i planned on doing it myself

[Charlie240sxt]

Get the sr swap it over stock with just a alu. flywheel and good cluch and lsd maybe a short shifter that way youll have like 190whp and the cool turbo sounds

[240Knightrider]

Id say that (parts) like if you already had the engine that might be the same but im not sure. For you to build a KA to be ready for a turbo you have to spend about 4k or higher if you do it right and you get a shop to do it. the SR you can get a good one for as cheap as $2300.

[MikeMurphy]

THE KA DOESENT HAVE A TURBO! YOU CANT DO THAT!

[downshift]

??? you lost me mike. oh well, from what i have read it always seems to come down to preference. Jdm or usdm. your choice. Both engines will usually be similar in performance. Well that is providing its ka-t or sr.

[dabum]

wont these peice of **** kat vs sr threads ever end

SEARCH BUTTON

[downshift]

wont these piece of **** people ever stop just comin in and tellin everyone to search. oh im sorry i guess that means you dabum. Yes it has been covered a million times over, but how bout a more calm tone. Like "please, just use the search button because it has been covered a numerous number of times". Mouse is new so of course he would start his own thread to get his own answers, but either talk in a rational area or dont post. just my .02

[dabum]

as you can see I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO POST TO HIM, and I did SAY search nd I even went outta my way to find a link on the topic READ UP tard. speaking of the thread whats the point in reposting everything thats already been said and covered, but whatever i dont care, im mad at some gurl im going out with lol but i CLEARLY did everything you said I SHOULD of done WHICH i did do, have a nice day and screw your 2 cents

[downshift]

LOL!!!! well, my apologies it was just too early in the mornin and i didnt noticed that you were the first one to post, and you actually did use a nicer tone. But your right it does get tedious when these threads keep poppin up. And thats funny too cause im mad at my girl too so i just was takin out a lil stress oh well sh1t happens. my bad, next time i will read.

[Charlie240sxt]

You 2 take it out back and solve it like men and stop bickering PLEASE

The Ka-t with put out more tq than the Sr-t but the Sr-t with put out better top end and you Dont have to bulid your KA for boost it will take it just fine (so far up to 400whp Stock long block) but you have to know what your doin SR-t is just kinda EZer for most people cuz its already setup for that stuff

And not ALL SR20DE(T) had a turbo guys ther are N/A ones so stop acting like the Sr always has a turbo

[downshift]

first, i dont bicker, i argue. no its not the same, the word "argue" sounds more MANLY. loland second, i havent really heard about much people actually using the N/A sr so i think that when we say sr20, it usually means the turbo model by default. And personally, if you are goin to turbo a 12-13 year old car i would think it would be smart to build it up to hold the boost more reliably. but hey, im dumb so i could be wrong.....but that is what i would do.

[240Knightrider]

HeyFor the dude that said ka dont come with turbos- Well uh yeah, no kidding.

besides that, I know there are SR's that do and dont come with turbos. But for the conversation we were talking about the one with the turbo and he knew that and I knew that.

Like you said earlier, do what you really want to do. If you want a car thats fast on the street that there isnt to much work envolved get the Sr. But if you do fix up the ka its well worth it from what i have heard

[Tx-Sx-FS]

if i had the choice and money and had a running ka...id turbo the ka since u could do basic upgrades to turbo and be running same whp as sr20det but spending alot less money...but any serious racer who wants alot of hp/torque...you would probably end up speding the same...IMO though

[lofapoo]

SR 'cause it's JDM :rolleyes

Anyway I'd probably do an SR as I believe it has stronger walls (possibility of being bored out) and unless your KA has low miles or you can find one with low miles the SR is usually found with around 50k miles on it.

It is a rather tough choice though.

[dabum]

yes the SR is found with low km but its beaten the shet out of, obviously i cant prove this but i know of alot of ppl who get sr's and have to still fix things alot of thing on it because the part was broken, im sure no granny's in japan drive anycar with an sr20, unlike here where enough chicks have this car for some reason anyways its all punks who manually adjust the wastegate to the max nd drive it till they crash into polls and send us their shet

[Charlie240sxt]

the KA can take 10psi at 230k and still drive everyday

max on a stock Ka is over 400whp(stock everything unless it was needed for the tubo bolt on)

max on an Sr is who knows people always change the cams so ther for it anit stock but the bottem end stock has seen 544whp

[marshun]

i say just rebuild yer KA motor. get the heads done and yer block bored and get new rings. then get that rust taken care of. and you'll prolly still have money left over and have zero miles on your motor.

(going back to the original question)

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[MikeMurphy]

DID I WIN THE DUMBEST POST OF THE THREAD? =D

nope I think I got beat out by a number of people

[240Knightrider]

DID I WIN THE DUMBEST POST OF THE THREAD? =D

nope I think I got beat out by a number of people

But you did win the most ignorant person award.

All in all I agree If I had the money I would keep the KA, but money is short and I want more power so im going with the SR.

[lofapoo]

But you did win the most ignorant person award.

That would be only if you didn't tell he was joking (which he clearly was) which you clearly did :rolleyes

For sake's sake man, lighten up a tad.

[cdiesel12]

I've had my 240 for a couple months and havent had any money so I haven't done any work on it. The car is stock and in rough shape. The engine bay is rusted so I want to fix that if I pull an engine. My next thing is that I really can't decide if I want to go with the stock engine and rebuild it or partially rebuild it to fix its problems, or I should do an SR swap. I guess the reason I am posting is becuase I want to know which engine performs better, and with the same amount of money I would use to buy an Sr which would be like 2500 plus shipping, would i get more than 205 hp from a KA with 2500 into it? I just want a powerful engine with a couple grand into it and for how much an SR costs I'm not too sure its worth the money. I am not putting done either engine and I have been searching around but i thought I might get some feedback posting a thread also. Thanks for your help.:thinker

better have an extra 1k or so for installion