Just put 22's on my 07 Infiniti M35x

[Vinceee]

Just put 22's on my 07 M35x

[szh]

Welcome to NICO!

What tires (brand, model, size, etc.) and wheels (brand, model, width, offset, etc.) are these?

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[auditech10]

I agree with what the others said on the other forum you posted these pics on, the rims seem to take a bit away from the car. BUT with better pictures, that may change our opinions

[Vinceee]

The other forum had mixed reviews (obviously just like every type of forum on the Web) some LOVE them, some DISLIKE them. I dont think there is much of a middle ground for these type of wheels.

Im sure there are many people here that arent on other forums who love the M and like to see different MODS.

The pics give a very good idea of what the Rims look like. I didnt have time to hire a pro photographer and take a shoot.

[szh]

Yes, I kinda agree. I have to admit that it seems to me that this wheel size overpowers the car look too much. The 19" was way large enough ...!

To each their own, I suppose!

Z

[AZhitman]

This is the only M forum that matters...

I think it'll look amazing with a drop!

[lswaidz]

Now you just need a nice 14"+ Brembo big brake kit and you're money...

[mrmark]

I think the M can handle up to a 20" rim. Anything bigger looks almost "donkish", which I'm not a fan of.

If you like it, that's what is important. I myself do not like the look. I'm more of a Japanese multi-piece 20" big lip wheel myself....

[nmgoodthing]

Looks like one of those Jeep Eagles from back in the mid 80's it sits so high.

[szh]

some LOVE them, some DISLIKE them. I dont think there is much of a middle ground for these type of wheels.

I think you are right ... there will not be a middle ground on these large wheels on an M!

Z

[Kckouki]

I like it, looks ballerific.

Put it on bags. hehe.

[Cameron]

I like it, looks ballerific.

Put it on bags. hehe.

fuggin

[CakeDaddy]

Ouch!! I don’t think he'll ever revisit us here at NICO after that lynching. The whole 22 inch wheel thing has become an epidemic with our young community. People hear these BullSh!t rappers talking about big rims, but what most consumers fail to realize is that these rappers rap and sing about big rims on big cars, not M45’s, Lexus GS’s, Grand AM’s, etc…

Stick with 20’s on these M’s and learn to say “NO” to 22’s !! Yes, it may only cost $20 dollars more per wheel to go from 20's to 22's, but ................................ ??

Modified by CakeDaddy at 9:44 AM 8/3/2007
Modified by CakeDaddy at 11:45 AM 8/3/2007

[Vinceee]

Quote, originally posted by Vinceee » some LOVE them, some DISLIKE them. I dont think there is much of a middle ground for these type of wheels.

I think you are right ... there will not be a middle ground on these large wheels on an M!

Z: And here is the LOWER ground. hahah

lswaidz: Brembo kit would look absolutly amazing but the money better spent elsewhere.

mrmark: Im not a big fan of 20's with this car. I dont think it fills the wheel well enough. Although I was close to dropping on Traffic star RTS deep lip 20's! I dont know why anyone does not have these on this car as of yet!

kckouki: no bags..hehe.. but lowering Springs and INGS body kit will be on soon enough.

nmgoodthing: the car sits about an inch higher than the stock 18's.

CakeDaddy: What a Lynching! Ouchy LMFAOMaybe your just getting old now. There are "many" 22's on the newer M.

[nmgoodthing]

nmgoodthing: the car sits about an inch higher than the stock 18's.

Maybe my math is getting rusty but last time I checked 18 inches and 22 inches had a 4 inch difference. Maybe your talking about the space between the tire and wheel well.

[CakeDaddy]

CakeDaddy: What a Lynching! Ouchy LMFAOMaybe your just getting old now. There are "many" 22's on the newer M.

Old.. lol, but young at heart I've seen WccBaller on FrshAlloy and a few others with 22's on the newer M's and it doesn't do it for me, but that is just my 2 cents worth. I do give you props for the effort and I look foward to seeing it lowered and kitted out.

[szh]

Maybe my math is getting rusty but last time I checked 18 inches and 22 inches had a 4 inch difference. Maybe your talking about the space between the tire and wheel well.

Well, he is probably using a much lower profile tire than usual ... that might eliminate some of the 4" difference. Since that 4" means the car would normally ride about 2" higher than stock, he must have effectively reduced the tire rolling diameter down by an inch or so.

However, one potential problem: as I recall (but may be wrong), many of the 20 and 22" tires, particularly the low profile ones, do not have the load index rating to support the weight of an M (the M35X is a bit heavier than the M35 too!).

If the tires on this M are not at least a load index of 95 or higher, I would certainly never drive it at high speeds ... under not under any conditions that might cause a tire failure.

Plus, with extreme low profile tires, tire pressure is not as easy to set and maintain - there is a very small amount of air that is needed to raise or lower by 1 psi! You'd have to check much more often than once a week to make that the pressure had not dropped to an unsafe level ... with an accurate tire gauge!

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[Vinceee]

Z.

I actually parked next another m35x with the stock 18's and measured the height between the two vehicles and my car with the 22's stands a little over 1" inch higher.

The tires state "extra load" with a 92 rating. So I think they are made for some decent weight. I think they realized what type of vehicles and rims they would fit on.

PSI: Thank god they tranfered the TPMS to the new wheels and its only voice command away on my Nav screen! I check it as soon as I start driving (Daily).

I currently keep them at around 45 PSI for more firmness and protection.

I have heard from others with these rims/tires that they are keeping them anyway from 38-45

With all your knowledge, what do think is the absolute best PSI for these rims?

[szh]

The tires state "extra load" with a 92 rating. So I think they are made for some decent weight. I think they realized what type of vehicles and rims they would fit on.

Whoops! 92 is low and could be unsafe on an M. You need to have 94 or 95 or, better yet, more than that! Please talk to the place you bought them from, and ask for them to correct this - they could be liable for installing too low a load index tire on this car!

I currently keep them at around 45 PSI for more firmness and protection.

Good! That is one way to bring the load index rating up (with increased pressure, you get increased load capacity). I would never let them get below 42 psi to be sure! The ride will be rougher (you will feel every bump!), but it will be safer.

With all your knowledge, what do think is the absolute best PSI for these rims?

Normally, I would recommend about 36 to 38 psi to get a reasonable balance between ride comfort and load capacity on any tire (also gives you a margin of error if the gauge is wrong, or the tire drops a few psi - this is very normal over time).

But, for this 92 load index, I would recommend that you either (a) get better tires with higher load capacity or (b) keep the psi high at about 44psi to be safe.

Also, what is the max load pressure rating of the tire (should be marked on the side)? Hopefully, it is a 50 or 51 max psi tire?

Also, please check the tire pressure when it is truly cold. Like inside a garage in the morning before driving one inch! This makes sure that the cold pressure is properly set. Then, don't reduce the tire pressure during the day as the tire warms up (and the effective pressure increases).

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[szh]

Well, he is probably using a much lower profile tire than usual ... that might eliminate some of the 4" difference. Since that 4" means the car would normally ride about 2" higher than stock, he must have effectively reduced the tire rolling diameter down by an inch or so.

Yup! The tire is a 245/30-22 (it is in Vincent's sig). The effective rolling diameter is probably about 27.6 to 27.9 inches.

Whereas most tires at 245/45-18 have effective rolling diameters at about 26.6 inches.

Hence the car sits 1.0 to 1.3 inches taller ...

Vincent, what is the wheel width? I hope it is about 8.0 or 8.5" or 9.0" or so. This is what you would need for a 245/30 tire ... anything else will make the tire sidewall "stretch" slightly and give it poor handling!

Z

[vzuptnguyen]

The whole 22 inch wheel thing has become an epidemic with our young community.

Post edited by Mod: Let's not drift in that direction, please!

[auditech10]

Hey now that might be over the boarder of what should be exceptable on this forum!

[mrmark]

mrmark: Im not a big fan of 20's with this car. I dont think it fills the wheel well enough. Although I was close to dropping on Traffic star RTS deep lip 20's! I dont know why anyone does not have these on this car as of yet!

Let's do some quick calculations..... a stock tire 245-40-18 has an OD of 25.7 while your 245-30-22 have an OD of 27.8. The differential between the stock setup and the setup you've chosen is 8.1%. I usually tell my customers to keep the OD within 1.5% of stock. That way you don't run into problems with mis-reading speedo's, handling issues, braking issues, not to mention that you put this setup on an AWD vehicle.

Check back with us in 6 months and let us know how your AWD system is handling that big of a difference in OD's. My guess is that if your dealership finds out about the setup and you have issues down the road, your warrantee will be useless. Just my thoughts.....

Oh, and filling up a wheel well is more a function of the ride height, wheels width, and wheel offset.....NOT the wheel diameter. If you run a huge wheel and keep the OD close like I suggested, the fender gap actually looks bigger since the tire profile is so low. My suggestion is to gather more information on proper wheel/tire fitment prior to purchasing a setup.

FYI...in order to run the proper tire sizing, you'd have to go with a 215-25-22. To my knowledge, there are no manufacturers with that size......

[Vinceee]

Post edited by Mod: Let's not drift in that direction, please!

Wow! I didnt know we had ignorant racists here! hahah Ill have to notify Rev. sharpton LMAO

Way to go! You sound like a real winner in life!

Post edited by Mod: Let's not drift in that direction, please!

If I were a Moderator I would easily you from these open forums not because of your entitled opinion/comment but because of your social retardation.

[CakeDaddy]

Post edited by Mod: Let's not drift in that direction, please!

Not a healthy comment or observation on your part!

[Vinceee]

Let's do some quick calculations..... a stock tire 245-40-18 has an OD of 25.7 while your 245-30-22 have an OD of 27.8. The differential between the stock setup and the setup you've chosen is 8.1%. I usually tell my customers to keep the OD within 1.5% of stock. That way you don't run into problems with mis-reading speedo's, handling issues, braking issues, not to mention that you put this setup on an AWD vehicle.

Check back with us in 6 months and let us know how your AWD system is handling that big of a difference in OD's. My guess is that if your dealership finds out about the setup and you have issues down the road, your warrantee will be useless. Just my thoughts.....

Oh, and filling up a wheel well is more a function of the ride height, wheels width, and wheel offset.....NOT the wheel diameter. If you run a huge wheel and keep the OD close like I suggested, the fender gap actually looks bigger since the tire profile is so low. My suggestion is to gather more information on proper wheel/tire fitment prior to purchasing a setup.

FYI...in order to run the proper tire sizing, you'd have to go with a 215-25-22. To my knowledge, there are no manufacturers with that size......

My suggestion is you need to do your RESEARCH on this set-up before chiming in as an expert.

unfortunatly your info on the stock is WRONG. The correct stock info is: 245/45-18

I guess youll have to recalculate everything again.

Therefore, 215-25-22 would NEVER work. Sorry

I have spoke to MANY individuals with this exact setup and have done my homework.

BTW FYI the wheels are only on a few months out of the year and the car is only being driven a few miles a day because my relocation VERY close to my place of business. =) Other wise I would never have put 22" Wheels on.

ALSO, Incase you did not know the Infiniti AWD is an "Intelligent" AWD system and is only used when needed. Otherwise its RWD and these wheels will never see snow/ice. With that being said my AWD system will be just fine.

All in all when you go 22" on this or any car there always is risk.

I guess all I can say is although you seem somewhat knowledgable, THANK GOD I am not your customer.

[mrmark]

Sorry.....but still 4.1% off.

Actually, you're right....I'm glad you're not my customer......

[szh]

Like you said, Vincent, there is not going to be any middle ground!

Z

[auditech10]

I think this thread has come to a closing then, no???

[szh]

Sorry.....but still 4.1% off.

Yes, but I think that as long as all four tires are the same size (i.e., no difference in rolling diameter), the ABS and VDC will not get totally unhappy.

However, the engine rpm's and speed error (not just the display) is large enough, that this might cause the engine management system to be confused perhaps ... But, who knows for sure?

I think you are right in that the OP's experience with using it for a while will tell us how well this change was successful or not!

Z