Just lost to a Saturn

[creophus]

I just lost to a Saturn. We started from a stoplight...I wasn't really sure if he was gonna run. My launch was terrible, but I took my defeat like a man.

We only got up to maybe 60-70mph, so it wasn't very dangerous. He took off with his wheels spinning while I was basically taking off from idle. He pulled about a car length on me and it was obvious that he took the victory. I was trying though, but like I said my launch was non-existent. He said he had a Throttle body and intake. I believe he also had exhaust. My S14 has just cat-back exhaust on it.

Shouldn't I have beaten this guy if I launched? He also had another guy in his car. I was alone. Also, he had a fire extinguisher and one of those stupid mufflers with the LEDs and he had a monster tach. He had some stupid stickers on it too, so basically it was riced out.

I'm willing to accept the fact that I can't drive very well yet, but someone please tell me that with the above mods, his car is not faster than mine. I know he could have had something serious on it, but I don't think so.

p.s. Everyone knows that street racing is dangerous and illegal and all that other stuff. Please don't flame me with the obvious.

[Phax]

Ummm, bro... you have a heavy car. I think the S14 is close to 3000 pounds. The only experience I have to compare it to is driving my KA24DE powered S13, on a recently refreshed engine. That thing didn't make any real discernable torque until about 4000 RPMs, and then it seemed to start falling off right around 6000-6500.

In order to take a lot of the lighter cars around, you'll have to develop some driving skills... and a go-fast budget. =) Might I suggest a direct-port nitrous setup? :icesangel

[nissanrcer240]

yeah i hear you , my friend has a 93 saturn sl2 and he kills me from a deadstop....of course i have an auto but still saturns are pretty quick and alot of people sleep on them, just like you probly did

i think if you would've had a good take off though you probly would be able to beat him

[b240]

what year was this saturn?

[Onizuka]

My dads saturn is a hell of a lot fast than my 240 (not for long :evilhaha ) those plastic body panals weigh alot less than the 240s metal.

I race my dad every once and a while and he always kicks my ***, and his car is stock (but its got a 3 liter v-6)

[themadscientist]

riced out Saturn:rotflmao I guess it had to happen eventually

[NIGHTfall_240sx]

riced out Saturn:rotflmao I guess it had to happen eventually

I agree, lets just hope it does not turn into a fad like Honda did

[BadMojo]

The old SC2's are surprisingly quick. I almost bought one before I found my 240SX. The 93's are listed at about 2400lbs with 124hp & 122 ft lbs of torque. That's really not bad at all, but I don't know how accurate those numbers really are.

[themadscientist]

maybe the honda ricers will start to understand why real honda and other car enthusiasts cring when we see them, the first time a riced out Saturn, Cavalier or Fucus with a monster tach and pedal covers cahllanges them at a light.

[chrispy]

man i think my saturn sl2 was pretty quick. 93 sl2 DOHC, stick , it was pretty fun. I would beat a non GT celica with it all the time

[creophus]

Hhhmmm...makes me wonder now how much different it would be if I had launched properly.

I don't know what year it was.

[MainEvent212]

hehe i beat a ricer boy chente in a civic today...

and i'm driving a 95 volvo 850...auto 8-)

[GatorS14]

i raced a accord w/ body kit in a u-haul. barely lost.

[s14sr20det]

Send that saturn this way

[SmithSR]

yeah, i took down an economy car today... i think it was this kid's mom's car. there were five kids crammed into this early model accord and this kid was revvin the hell outta the motor and lurching a bit. so i'm sitting here on my CBR and lookin over at these morons... the light turns and he punches it and spins the tire a bit as i slowly roll on the throttle in first until about 11000rpm, let off abruptly, pull the throttle wide open and pull a nice big fat kiss my A** wheelie past them punk fools who are on the road for no other reason than to pester people. they showed me. then again, when you ride a bike, it's pretty common to see people act tough towards you. still dont know why though...

[y3llows14]

I raced a Saturn once.....it had headers, exhaust, and intake. We were dead even until 90 where I slowly walked away. I think the saturn was also a 2.4 liter. At the time I had a cai and n1 exhaust. I was suprised at how well the Saturn did.

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

HAHA..IM A VICTIM OF THE STUPID AZZ SATURNS.. I WAS WIT MY GURLY.. AND WE WERE DRIVING AROUND AND SUM KID IN A SATURN PULLED UP NEXT TO ME REVING WIT HIS STOCK MUFFLER.. I WAS LIKE WTF.. AT A ROLL OF A BOUT 25MPH.. I GUNNED IT ON SECOND GEAR TOOK HIM A LIL PAST 3RD AND ALL I SEE IS SOME LIL SMOKE COME OUT OF HIS MUFFLER AND DAMN HE WAS GONE.. I WAS LIKE WTF.. CAUGHT UP TO HIM AND HES LIKE YA I GOT A LIL SUMTHING IN THERE.. I WAS THINKING THERES NO WAY I GOT TAKEN BY A FUKKN STOCK AZZ SATURN.. (NO2)BASTARDZJOE

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

I GUESS IM THE ONLY LOSER THAT GOT BEAT BY A SATURN..LOLJOE

[s14sr20det]

why the ****ING CAPS ????????????????????????

[ESPER]

whoa whoa, s14s barely weight 2800 lbs buddy, make sure u got your data right b4 u post it. i have car and driver, road and track and various other sources detailng the s14's specs. and my s14weighs at a scant 2700 approx. mine is non -ABS and i took out stuff i dont need from the engine and body, etc. anyways, i own a 95 SC2 and it isnt bad at all. i purchased it cuz it only had like 65k miles and was being sold for like $3200 and it is a very reliable car so i decided to take itwhile i was looking for my s14 (i was looking for like a year and then i found one like 2 months later!! but compared to civics (i dont hate on civics though cuz my friend has one) they are much more repsonsive and arent too slow. but yeah i never got to race myself hehe my dad drives the saturn now and he dont like racing. also, back when i was still driving my 5 spd SC2, i actually saw another kid with a 94 i beleive that was modded up, i gave him props snce he was being different. and not to mention, there are performance parts u can buy for it and performance specialists for the saturns. i dont think its too bad a FF sports car if u ask me.

[creophus]

Well, I have some respect for them now, since the guy walked away from me. Makes me want to put in the SR even sooner now! :angryfire

[krazy skwerel]

we have a lot of riced out saturns around here. mostly sl1's come to think of it i dont think there is much that hasnt been riced out around here from s10's to a mazda mpv hahahaha. whooo tennessee!!!

[drifts14x]

Hey man, sorry to hear about the Saturn Loss, my advice would just be to take ricers like that seriously, and maybe get yourself either some better street rubbers or a few pieces under the hood to help you make sure that you dont lose again. If you see that kid again, whoop him good

[Zaxx84]

My '95 weighs 2900 lbs with me in it, and I weigh 200 lbs, which puts the S14 somewhere around 2700 lbs (weighed at emissions). I have to admit, I never lost to a Saturn though. Before I did the swap my best times were 14.9 - 15.1 with intake, header, exhaust, and unorthodox crank pulley (open diff and STOCK CLUTCH too).

I will be up and running with the SR as soon as I get my harness back from HT. Gonna be interesting what will happen then.

[Zaxx84]

By the way, that is with 170,000 miles on the original engine!

[SilviaLuvr]

My dads saturn is a hell of a lot fast than my 240 (not for long :evilhaha ) those plastic body panals weigh alot less than the 240s metal.

I race my dad every once and a while and he always kicks my ***, and his car is stock (but its got a 3 liter v-6)

not to mench an all aluminum block!

[Onizuka]

i like the feel of my car way better though, the turning is a bit sluggish on his car.

[nlzmo400r]

those saturns dont have TAHT bad of motors in them, and they weigh next to nothing, the sc2 comes with a 1.9 liter rated at 13ohp and 122ft lbs of torque i believe, and with that weight, the power to weight ratio isnt bad at all, just takes a good drive, i tell u what, a stock sc2 would KILL a stock civic ANYDAY!! and hurray for that

[98TURBOKA]

A Saturn?? Is that what we're talking about a Saturn!!! !! Just to post my personal opinion which everyone might not see things my way, but if I got beat by a Saturn I would ether charge up evey credit card I have to insure that that never happened again or I would part out my car and sell everything to the highest bidder and buy me a differant car. But since I don't plan on ever getting rid of my 240, I'd probably go head first in to debt. It's not very likely that there is a Saturn around that will be even close enough to eat my dust before it settles back on the ground.

[CalsonicR34Skyline]

I don't understand... "WHY A SATURN!?" There great economy cars, and a great family sedan, but that's about it. Why are people "ricing" out domestics? Is this another fad gone bad and over board? Can someone please tell me why a Saturn with aftermarkets is cool?