just installed SR not starting

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sxse
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I have my SR installed and wired using Heavy Throttle as my guidline, as well as a couple SR install articles. It turns over and is gettin spark and fuel in all 4 cylinders but it wont even stutter. I searched and read that timing is often off and so i removed my valve cover again and readjusted it again just as shown on heavy throttle.

now my questions are:

drop-in resistor: never read anything about it but my friend who installed his own CA18 swears i need it. I do have a little silver thing about three inches long with a 2 wire harness, i think that is it?

Ignitor chip: lots of people say you dont need to extend the wires and you can just leave it where it plugs into the harnes (ends up below the fuel filter) is that really ok?

And does anyone have a vacume hose guide or can anyone make a simple one with paint or somthing? I have the fuel press regulator one hooked up and the ones to the carbon canister but I dont know if they area right and i cant ever see them all in pics.

Ah well, any help would be extreamely apprecialted :) My front mount and exhaust come tomarrow and I just want my engine to at least kinda stutter before then ( i wont run it....)

But thanks a ton for any help...


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the wiring on ht site is not correct, or is too hard to understand, me and another guy who followed their instructions had the same prob as you, cranks but wont catch, check to see if the injector is opening with a volt meter, the shop who fixed my wiring said they cant remember what needed to be done, if anyone has different wiring instructions than ht, that would help a lot of peeps

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Theres nothing wrong with the wiring on HT's site

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I followed HT site for wiring. My car cranks and runs first try. Tell us which part of the wiring in the HT site that you think is wrong.

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anybody? I never heard that HTs wiring was bad before, ahh, wiring is a pain.

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Mine didnt start for 3 weeks, turned out to be the fuel lines were backwards.

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i followed the wiring exactly, and something was messed, its either incorrect, or the wiring is for a specific model of sr, year maybe, or its not clear enough. im a wiring pro, i do stereos all the time, its not that hard, somthing is amiss

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yeah, my fuel lines were backwards but I already fixed that :)

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sxse,

I don't think that dropping resistor is needed at all. If you have all sparks & fuel, it should run if the timing is right. Did it try to catch at all? When I checked my timing, I had a hard time looking for the 2 silver links. I can see the gold one real good, but not the 2 silver ones. I have to count rollers (not links) from the gold one (48 rollers to the mark on the exhaust cam). See page EM-24 on 200SX FSM from the internet. The silver links turned out to be off-color to me, not silver at all. I marked them using white-out. When you rotate the crankshaft, it helps to drop a long extension into #1 hole so that you can tell it's TDC.

Vacuum lines: Top big one goes to BOV & canister purge, Top small is FPR & boost gauge. Bottom goes to canister top. Very simple.

Quiksilvia, I'm a noob in terms of car wiring, but I think the HT site is right. I'm really curious of what is wrong in their wiring since my car starts and run just fine.

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Hey, thanks a ton for the info so far, I got it to stutter but i think it is running way to rich.

Heres what i did to get it to stutter:

I turned the key to the ON position and is sounds like the injectors squirt for like 3 sec but I only let them do it for like 1. Then I pulled the Fuel pump fuse and turned the engine over and it stutters. If i leave the fuel pump fuse in and try to start it the plugs are totaly soaked with gas afterward.

Does any body know why it would be running rich? I have the FPR vacume hooked up...

thanks.

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i asked the shop that fixed my wiring but they didnt know, like i said, its either incorrect or incomprehensible

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dude , quik, you just didnt do it right, face it

my friend ryan has never even looked under the hood of a 240, he did my wiring and it worked perfectly

the only source of info he had was from Ht

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i did it right, i checked it 4 times, had other people check it, and 3 other guys have had the same exact problem that i had, coincidence...i think not. no an den

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hey, quit jacking the tread! :)

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Well, thanks for any help, I got it running and I'm pretty stoked. It turns out it was the timing, and I just had to keep messing with it.

A few more quick questions:

My blinker blinks really fast now, I 'm sure I messed up somewhere in the wireing but is there any quick fix for that?

And what is the advance, if any, on the timing and how do you measure the timing since it's coil on ignition?

Oh yeah, and sorry Quik, but if a newb like me can do an engine swap with Heavy Throttles info then it's probably right.

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the fast blinker is usually cuz one of the exterior blinkers are not connected or shorted out.

like i said dude, maybe there are one wire minor differences for diff motors/year of motors

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Dude, download that S14 SR FSM from the internet, read it. It tells you a lot. If you have your base timing right, it should start easy. After that you can adjust your timing. THe key is to get the base timing right per FSM

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sxse:

We need to have a Moscow 240 meet :) I wanna see your 240 in action!

Email me at [email protected] if you're interested.


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