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[jEzTeR]

Hey I saw a black Infiniti today and it was sharp!I have a hard time remembering letters and numbers without knowing what they stand for.Anyway I noticed this one had a lower case t at the end.Is that t for Turbo?

[greg_atlanta]

J30t, probably... the "t" stands for touring. Same engine, but depending on model year has other goodies like rear wheel steering, spoiler, rear sway bar, other stuff too (maybe someone else can elaborate).

[Mayhem_J30]

yeah, the t is for touring. a bit stiffer ride and HICAS system basically. Oh, and an extra 't' at the end of J30.

[jEzTeR]

Cool! HeHe I want a " t" too. (SE-Rt Spec V):ylsuper

[Mayhem_J30]

you can have the one off of the I30t after i shave it off.

[VimyJ]

In an effort to control costs on the heavily engineered but slow selling J30t, the HICAS feature was dropped for the 95 and subequent moodel years. However, to make up for this they added other creature comforts to the entire J line (the heated seats are great!). The only differences between the base J30 and the J30t after 94 were a "sportier" suspension and the alloy wheels on the touring model.

The J30 got caught in a difficult niche in the market. The sheet metal was very new and almost revolutionary compared to the BWMs, etc. that it was designed to compete against. This and the fact that Nissan was getting into a world of financial hurt led to a simplification of the Infiniti line. The Maxima, a very good car, was tricked up to become the I30 in 96 in a copy cat move to the Toyota Camry tricking out to become that 300 thing. To bad, IMHO. A great rear wheel drive midsize car was dropped to go with the popularity of FWD that was sweeping the industry at that time. Now, here we are with RWD cars becoming popular again. The J30 remains a very fun to drive car with great brakes, a fine motor, excellent handling and exquiste manners. Good job Nissan! Long live the J30! :ylsuper

[jpalm]

I miss my 94 J30t! R.I.P:icesangel

I definately miss the luxury of the J30t. However on the sportiness side the Spec V is definately taking car of that.

[jEzTeR]

OK thanks for the info on the "t".So now whats the J stand for.For that matter whats the Q for in Q45?Im assuming that the I in I30 is for infiniti....and the numbers are relating to the size motor.

[VimyJ]

OK thanks for the info on the "t".So now whats the J stand for.For that matter whats the Q for in Q45?Im assuming that the I in I30 is for infiniti....and the numbers are relating to the size motor.

I really don’t know how Nissan came up with the letter designations for the G20, M30, J30, Q45, etc. but the numbers refer to the engine displacement: 3 liters for the J30, 2 liters for the G20 and so on. The J30 uses the same motor and drive train of the 300 ZX.

[AZhitman]

The letters are meaningless, just as they are with almost any car.

RX-7; 300ZX; Z-28; RX300; NSX; RSX.....

[Mayhem_J30]

don't know if it's accurate but the letters seem to be steps up the food chain. G<I<J<Q

[VimyJ]

don't know if it's accurate but the letters seem to be steps up the food chain. G<I<J<Q

Then again, there is the original M that came before the J that was more of "funster" and had the less powerful VG30. Looks like the "J" designation won't figure in the line up for quite sometime with the M45 seeming to take that spot currently. It's obvious why they aren't using an "L".:rolleyes

[jpalm]

The J actually stands for J Ferie, which is what it is referred to in Japan. Its means something like "Infinite Holiday" or something.

I used to have links to all the J Ferie sites in Japan but since I totalled mine I've deleted them.

[VimyJ]

The J actually stands for J Ferie, which is what it is referred to in Japan. Its means something like "Infinite Holiday" or something.

I used to have links to all the J Ferie sites in Japan but since I totalled mine I've deleted them.

Wasn't the J also called the "Leopard" in Japan? Very apropos name, IMHO.

[Mayhem_J30]

Oh yeah, forgot about the japanese name. Leopard J. Ferie. I like J30 better. Of course theirs had a v8

[VimyJ]

Oh yeah, forgot about the japanese name. Leopard J. Ferie. I like J30 better. Of course theirs had a v8

The standard engine was the V6 and they had an optional V8 (4.1L) and a V6 single turbo. That turbo would be great but as mentioned in posts here, the left hand drive in N.A. prevents it from being added. Too bad.

[szh]

In regard to the letters (Q, M, I, etc.), I once wrote a letter to Infiniti about the car they should have done, shortly after I bought my 1995 Q and decided that I had made a mistake trading in my 1991 Q.

Anyway, one of my recommendations was that they needed to have an "Infiniti Z60" to restore some blemished honor to the vehicle (after they had damaged it with the 4.1 liter models)!

Of course, the "Z60" represented that the car had to have a 6.0 liter V-12 engine in it.

I don't know if I have this letter lying around anywhere, but I will search for it and post it sometime!

Z

[jpalm]

They would NEVER name an Infiniti car "Z" due to the Z cars of Nissan. Interestingly enough Nissan has BMW in court for exclusive use of "Z". BMW of course has the Z3, Z4, Z8. Last I heard the courts ruled that Nissan has a case.

[szh]

They would NEVER name an Infiniti car "Z" due to the Z cars of Nissan.

A good point! I had not thought of that. As a former owner of a 300ZX Turbo too (sold it to get my first 1991 Q45 eleven years ago), I can appreciate that argument!Quote »Interestingly enough Nissan has BMW in court for exclusive use of "Z". BMW of course has the Z3, Z4, Z8. Last I heard the courts ruled that Nissan has a case. [/quote] Hmmm. I am surprised by that! The BMW's have been around for a while at this point, and there is no real confusion in the minds of the sport-car buying public, I would think. "No brand confusion" usually means "no case".

Z

[jpalm]

Chicago, Nov. 1 (Bloomberg) -- We’ll Z you in court. That was Nissan Motor Co.’s response after German rival Bayerische Motoren Werke AG started emphasizing the letter ‘Z’ in ads for its Z3 and Z8 roadsters. A federal judge this week agreed to let Nissan proceed with a lawsuit that claims BMW infringed its 1990 trademark for the letter’s use to promote sports cars. Nissan is trying to protect an image that dates to 1969, when the inexpensive Datsun 240Z sports car it introduced to the U.S. helped tear down Americans’ resistance to Japanese vehicles. Nissan resurrected the Z-car line in August after a six-year absence with the $30,000 350Z. Nissan has sold more than 1 million Z cars in the U.S. over the years. “The use of ‘Z’ is real important for Nissan,” said Jim Hall, analyst at AutoPacific Inc. in Southfield, Michigan. “They were using Z-cars in advertising even when they weren’t selling them here. It’s that important to them for their image.” A federal judge in Chicago declined to dismiss the case Oct. 28 and the two automakers are now trying to settle the matter out of court, Nissan spokesman Kyle Bazemore said. BMW has no comment on the case, spokeswoman Martha McKinley said. Both Nissan and BMW promote their Z sports cars’ performance to help increase total sales for their brands. BMW trademarked “Z3” when it started selling that model in 1996 and its replacement, the $40,935 Z4, which went on sale on Oct. 26. The company also has a $132,000 Z8 model. Nissan didn’t object to the Z3 trademark prior to this year because BMW wasn’t using a standalone Z, according to court documents. Last year, BMW started to refer to “Z-series” cars and “Z-technology” in advertising and Nissan sued to protect its trademark, the documents said. The judge disagreed with BMW’s contention that Nissan waited too long to sue, the filing said. The next hearing in the case is Dec. 17. For now, it’s a case of wait-and-Z.

[greg_atlanta]

Seems silly to me, esp. given the new M45.

Does that mean Mercedes can sue Lexus for the "S" in LS400 or SC430?

I think it might be refreshing to return to rear car names instead of alphanumeric monikers.

[maxnix]

Quote »I think it might be refreshing to return to rear car names instead of alphanumeric monikers.[/quote]

Yeah, instead of the new BMW 7 series we could have the BMW Buttugly series.