JIC Coilovers

[KBADPAT]

Does anybody have JIC coilovers on their Y33. If so, could you please post some pictures of your car droped. I would like to thank everyone in advance.

Andrei

[Rex]

Does anybody have JIC coilovers on their Y33. If so, could you please post some pictures of your car droped. I would like to thank everyone in advance.

Andrei

Kevin (FalkDesigns) would be the most likely resident expert on the FY33, but I think he's using Teins. Search for his posts or check out his pics.

Welcome to NICO and check out the Y33 owners "Check In" thread.

Here's a couple links

zerothread?id=146826http://forums.nicoc ... ?id=127145

[elwesso]

IMO, coilovers are kind of pointless..... Id just find some nice springs and shocks like kevin has...

[antbo]

http://vipstylecars.com/forum/...799.0

jic VIP FLT-A2
Modified by antbo at 8:40 AM 12/27/2005

[Falkdesigns]

The problem with coilovers is that if you want them done RIGHT, you have to find a race shop, or a shop that's properly equipped with SCALES. A car with coilovers needs to be corner weighted to be done RIGHT. Now, I'm sure some folks just put them on and say "it looks right", the thing is, it's not right, unless it was corner weighted. Corner weighting is where the driver sits in the car, the car is resting on 4 scales connected to a computer, and the coilovers are adjusted until all 4 corners of the car read the same weight, hence, "corner weighting".

They are great when they are done right. Personally, I rather just find springs and shocks that give the ride height I like and leave it at that. The only advantage of coilovers is being able to go up or down to your liking. The problem is that every time you change the height, you need to go back to the race shop and get it corner weighted again.

[elwesso]

I agree with kevin...

[antbo]

so what happens if its not leveled?

[Falkdesigns]

Weird handling and uneven tire wear. It's the same concept as like a table with four legs, but one isn't quite the same length, so you put a book of matches under the short leg to balance it out.

There's a race shop around here that does it, I think they charge like $60 bucks to set it up. Then of course, you need an alignment any time you change the setting. But lets say, you get your driving height dialed in at the shop, but when you show it you want it slammed, you could theoretically mark the threaded shock body where the proper drive height is, then slam it for the show, and put it back where your marks are when you drive home. You'd most likely be off, but just barely off.

[antbo]

i see, well im located in san diego. you know of any shops around here that does that?

btw, what size wheels are you running?

[Falkdesigns]

19x8 +20 245/35-19 front & 19x9.5 +20 275/30-19 in back.

I'm gonna ask around and see what I can find out for you, but I know there must be some race shops down there.

[Falkdesigns]

Ok try this guy, tell him Simpson referred you, he's one of our vendors.

Dave Turner Motorsports, 858-571-3811

[Louis Cyphier]

bah! corner weighting is overrated on a street driven car.

Ive driven 3 Vws for years each on coilovers, all adjusted by measuring ground the centerline if fender and none had the slightest bit of uneven wear or untimely demise.

[Falkdesigns]

You fall into the "it looks right" category

It's not that expensive to get it done, and like they say, there's a RIGHT way to do things...

I'm guilty too though, I drove on some for about 6 months that I eyeballed, but I ditched them for a set of H&R springs which I was much happier with.

[Louis Cyphier]

i also never aligned the cars either, none, pulled or had uneven tire wear.

All were SLAMMED, on Stretch rubber too.

None of the cars handled bad(for the height they were at) even compared to when they were higher.

[Falkdesigns]

Ok, I don't believe the never aligned and no uneven wear. It's just not possible, when you slam a car, the alignment is whacked out, usually pretty bad. I suppose you could have even excessive wear though

Keep in mind, I have worked in garages as a mechanic, so I've seen quite a bit.

[Louis Cyphier]

honestly man, i got over 20K on the first set of stretched tire w/o a single alignment or rotation.

when i sold this black mk4 i had 15K on the wheels/tires, 17x9 front 17x10 rear, only rotated side to side once. never full rotation because of staggered wheels. Running Toyo T1-s with great wear charistics, new owner is still running on them some 5K later and says theres still decent tread depth left.

no lie.

Im meticlious about how the car is measured out, took my time are redid each side if i had to 20 times. that car was so low it would blow inner CV's left and right. I would blow the spline through the backing cap on the inner flange.

I was never a professional mechanic, but ive done 99% all all my work, transmission swaps, engine swaps, suspension, brakes, heads etc...

[Falkdesigns]

If you say so, I'll take your word for it. I know you're meticulous just by the pics of cars you've had, and I said it on VIP-c, but that is one hot Golf.

[Louis Cyphier]

shadetree at its finest. thanks man for the comments, i really miss that car.

i havent posted my 3Liter anywhere. http://members.cox.net/lordoftheblings/dyno1.mov

less than 2K on the motor.complete overbore to 3 liters, balance and blue printed, JE 11:1 Pistons, Knife edged Crank, P&P Head, 268º cams, exhaust, quaife LSD.

Made 195Whp @ 6K miles, still going strong with the kid i sold it to.

[BlackBirdVQ]

195WHP ? Seems kinda low for all that work put into the engine, 00-01 Maximas put down between 190-198WHP stock with a 5spd transmission, with a 3.0L engine.

Nice Golf, but I never was a fan of staggered wheels on hatchbacks, especially ones that are FWD.

[maxnix]

Ive driven 3 Vws for years each on coilover.

I am sorry for you. Who was the cruel person that made you do that?

[maxnix]

Nice Golf, but I never was a fan of staggered wheels on hatchbacks, especially ones that are FWD.

Aw, come on, it's just a pretend car with a pretend setup. Who said anything about function?

[Falkdesigns]

It's just an illusion of RWD, there's no reason it can't still work good, and it dang sure looks good.

[Louis Cyphier]

not really considering the aweful design of the 12V head. gotta remember that maxima 6 cyl is a actual V6 with seperate heads that can afford decent passageways. The 12V V6 is a 15° narrow angle V6 all contained within a singe lhead and block. not a great design The intake and exhaust ports are aweful. The most ive seen out of streetable 11:1 3.1Ls is around 215+/- but thats motor, 2.5" exhaust, manifold and lightened flywheel, pullies and software.

I ran a 3L longblock only, stock pullies, flywheel intake and exhaust manifolds and a 2.25" exhaust. With the above mods done the car could have easily seen low 200's-210.

staggered wheels on a FWD, well, i dont drive on a track, and never once did i push the car and get hindered by the wheels.

[Louis Cyphier]

Aw, come on, it's just a pretend car with a pretend setup. Who said anything about function?

you=douche.

arent you the same guy who said Fikse weighted a ton more than a "real" wheel. that is ignorance at its finest. proof that post count doesnt equate to intelligence.

[BlackBirdVQ]

Well, I don't really know how much power those things can put down, as I am not really into the whole VW thing... I did do a head gasket on a SLC Corrado one time. I find it very supprising that a 3.0L narrow angle V6 puts down less WHP than a K20Z1 in a RSX Type S with just HonData ECU, CAI and header.

I almost bought a 00 GTi VR6 back in 01, but after test driving it and comparing it to my 165WHP all motor 93 SE-R, I wasn't impressed with anything but maybe the interior quality. I ended up buyin a 00 Audi S4 which blew up 6 months later.