Jet Power-Flow Mass Air Sensor

[SSRALTI]

Has anyone tried this product? http://www.autoanything.com/ai....aspx

[Hussain]

seems pretty good..... that plus the AEM intake would be nice

[Ferguson]

I plan to order this in the next day or so. If no one beats me to it, I'll report my findings. Sounds like it should work well with the Injen intake and Stillen exhaust, and looks like the only easy chip change in the electronics.

[SSRALTI]

look forward to your report

[minivan_don]

this is neat !!! it would be interesting to see the results of this, but the best part is you can plug your oem sensor back in within a minute if you have to go in for servicing

fyi, summitracing.com has these on for $135 reg price.
Modified by minivan_don at 11:03 PM 11/27/2008

[losenone]

How easy is this to install? If it can be assumibly be put back in under 5 minutes im sure its fairly simple?

[minivan_don]

prob just 2 screws and unclip the harness. simple as pie! if you can opporate a screw driver, you should have success

[losenone]

I think i can accomplish that haha.

[sonicbliss]

for some reason this item makes me feel nervous... i dont understand how anything can claim to give both power and mpg. just sounds too good. BUT, i will await your review with baited breath.

[CanadianCoupe]

Most things that increase air flow will claim both increases in MPG and HP (such as K&N filters, intake, etc.).

What makes me nervous is it seems like you are getting a lot of stuff for $150, and most the time when its too good to be true, its not.

[sonicbliss]

well thats basically what i meant. not too good at getting thoughts across i guess, lol. the fact that its a piece of electronics i guess it whats doin it to me, as i have no idea as to how it actually works, whereas with an intake, its more of a mechanical concept, which i can grasp. never bothered to look into how things like these work.

now im just spiff-balling here, but if thing is just basically lying to the ecu, telling it that im not getting enough or too much fuel, then wouldnt that create a a dangerous lean/rich condition? these are the things i dont know, and thats what makes me nervous. with my luck, id just as soon not test it.

correct me if im wrong please. i tend to overreact when i am unsure of something.

[adidas2go]

This is how MAF sensors work. They read the volume of air, and turn it into a 0V-5V signal, and send it to the ECU. The ECU then takes that value, and corrects timing and fuel load to match the air volume for the cleanest and most effeicent burn.

What this is gonna do is lie to your car and tell it there is a different volume of air coming in than it really is. With those different values, the car will set timing and fuel to the "false" signal, and its supposed to run more effeciently and faster. Cars from the factory are tuned to run a little rich (to much fuel). This is because running your car rich is not nearly as harmful as running it with to little fuel (lean). A lean condition will cause your engine to knock and grenade itself. This product will alow more air than normal to even out the air/fuel ratio.

I have heard bad reviews about these guys making vehicles run too lean and have power loss, instead of gain. I personally wouldnt get a product like this because:

A. Its made by Jet, a company with a reputation thats shady at bestB. Potential to grenade engineC. To good to be trueD. Simple fact is, you gain power by adding fuel and air. You won't have more power AND better fuel economy. That would require an engineering breakthrough, which I'm positive Jet isn't behind.

Be aware of this information guys, and buy at your own risk.

[sonicbliss]

see? exactly my point. i DID know how MAF's worked, but not these new-fangled sensors. thanks adidas for setting me straight ( and confirming my suspicions.

[Racingline]

Agreed with Blake!

this is noting more than a fancy version of the ebay $10 "resistor mod"

[SSRALTI]

Thank you for the info. Thats what I needed to know.

[Ferguson]

Saved my money then... I hadn't yet ordered it. Thanks!

But, even if this one is bogus, isn't it possible that someone might have a better calibrated sensor that exceeds the stock item for:

A) Accuracy - reducing the slightly over-rich condition prevalent in stock implementations?B) Flow Range - the stock unit probably doesn't account for high-flow intakes and exhausts?

Or am I just trying to find an improvement where none is possible?

[Racingline]

it's called an Apexi AFC. It's not perfect, but it's alot more reliable than the Jet, and will allow you to manually tune air and fuel, not just lean everything out, like the jet does