Jeep ditches CVTs

[Jesda]

Compass and Patriot are switching to 6-speed autos to improve drivability.

Nissan: Please do the same.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/jeep- ... 53672.html

[Mr1der]

Trail rated...yeah, no.

[Kompresshun]

I read about this a couple of days ago and it was a happy moment for me, because yet another manufacturer realizes what a waste of material that the CVT is. I've always liked the Patriot, but wouldn't touch one with a CVT.

Come on Nissan! Get over your CVT fetish and quit trying to make people love them by making them the only thing available in most of your product line. Everyone else is passing you by.

[nissangirl74]

They built a C A B R I O L E T. I think we're stuck with them. We all hate them but they obviously don't care what we want.

[float_6969]

lol, this is sad, but true.

[MinisterofDOOM]

The statement that CVTs are old tech and don't work particularly well put a smile on my face. I think it's about time someone acknowledged this. They might be a great idea on paper, but we've seen pretty solid evidence in the form of every car ever sold with one that they just don't work as desired in real-world applications. Instead of soldiering on with promises that the tech will make cars better that never get fulfilled, it's nice to see someone go back to what works, with an understanding that it plays a big role in driveability and driving enjoyment.

I can't imagine enjoying a drive in the LS8 if it had a CVT. Everything else it does right (which is a lot) would be completely undermined by the CVT's behavior and detached operation.

[elwesso]

The one time I've been in a Nissan with a CVT the sport mode seemed OK?

[MinisterofDOOM]

Yeah, but the sport mode just acts like a normal automatic transmission. So we've just come full circle. Why not build proper automatic transmissions that don't have severe reliability problems instead of faking it?

[Lowes11]

Well, since Nissan owns JATCO which supplies the CVT, it is a financial decision I am sure.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Well, since Nissan owns JATCO which supplies the CVT, it is a financial decision I am sure.

JATCO has existed and built transmissions for Nissan and Ford since long before the CVT. There's nothing stopping them from building normal transmissions as well. In fact, Nissan/JATCO abandoned newly-designed automatics in favor of the CVT. There's nothing financially-sound about THAT. I'm sure you're at least partly right: they sunk a lot of money into CVT development and they're not about to call it a failure. But that's exactly the problem: ignoring a failure to make it profitable doesn't change the fact that it's a failure.

[darylzero]

Compass and Patriot are switching to 6-speed autos to improve drivability.

Nissan: Please do the same.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/jeep- ... 53672.html

From the article,

considering the fact that both the Compass and the Patriot are going out of production by the end of the year is a bit odd.

So Jeep is not so much ditching the CVT as they are ending the production of both of those cars.

[Jesda]

So Jeep is not so much ditching the CVT as they are ending the production of both of those cars.

Both, actually. It's especially significant because they're both ending production soon.